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post #5101 of 5626
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Originally Posted by feh View Post

Hi folks.

A little off topic; my apologies...I'm considering switching to Charter for internet access. Could somebody give me a rough idea of what the monthly taxes are? I want to know what I'd actually be paying each month.

Thanks.

I suspect if you call them they could tell you the EXACT amount. Too many variables for this, what locality?, what level of service? those would be I think the most, it's not like the phone thing, at least I think. There might be some "fees" for govt. I have the Triple, so my fees would be different
post #5102 of 5626
With the weather outside, all I can say is, I love my BUD. That said, it is also shear luck that the weather hasn't really affected Madison.
post #5103 of 5626
The May 25th edition of Jeopardy! has a clue about the UW and it was selected first.

Download the 1080i video clip

1080i - H.264 - 2 Mbps - 34 sec - 10,073,273 bytes

Yes, it is a 1080i video using only 2 Mbps. While that only equals about 4 Mbps in terms of MPEG-2 video, there isn't really any action, plus it is a 2-pass encoding.
post #5104 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

The May 25th edition of Jeopardy! has a clue about the UW and it was selected first.

Download the 1080i video clip

1080i - H.264 - 2 Mbps - 34 sec - 10,073,273 bytes

Yes, it is a 1080i video using only 2 Mbps. While that only equals about 4 Mbps in terms of MPEG-2 video, there isn't really any action, plus it is a 2-pass encoding.


Too bad it's like 10 minutes to download... dude, give us some more bandwidth! :P What, you running dialup on your web server??
post #5105 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mattymo View Post

Too bad it's like 10 minutes to download... dude, give us some more bandwidth! :P What, you running dialup on your web server??

Well, dude, if you can get me lots of cash to find another service that will get me a business connection that is sync, vs my current async, DSL, (with 10 Mbps in and out, cheap) I'd be happy to have more bandwidth. Right now I have two large outgoing uploads taking place. While my incoming is 4 Mbps, the outgoing is only 768 kbps (actually can hot around 832 kbps at times.

Since I am in AT&T territory, I can't get fiber from my ISP (TDS).

I almost went to the TDS WiMax, but procrastination delayed me. Good thing as I would have been served by the water tower with the fire. Plus, TDS is getting out of the WiMax business, so they will not be going back onto a new water tower.

I'm kinda stuck with what I have.
post #5106 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Well, dude, if you can get me lots of cash to find another service that will get me a business connection that is sync, vs my current async, DSL, (with 10 Mbps in and out, cheap) I'd be happy to have more bandwidth. Right now I have two large outgoing uploads taking place. While my incoming is 4 Mbps, the outgoing is only 768 kbps (actually can hot around 832 kbps at times.

Since I am in AT&T territory, I can't get fiber from my ISP (TDS).

I almost went to the TDS WiMax, but procrastination delayed me. Good thing as I would have been served by the water tower with the fire. Plus, TDS is getting out of the WiMax business, so they will not be going back onto a new water tower.

I'm kinda stuck with what I have.


I was getting 20kb/sec on that download, it really did take 10 minutes.

shell out the 3/4 bucks a month and just get a hosting plan with a we hosting provider! :P
post #5107 of 5626
Could always wait til the clip's on YouTube.
post #5108 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mattymo View Post

I was getting 20kb/sec on that download, it really did take 10 minutes.

I wasn't doubting that it did take that long. As I said, I had two outgoing files, doing about 22-25 kbps, as well. There are times where I'll have 60 kbps going out. The TDS fiber ring, or the local connection at blackoak, gets busy as well and I've had speed issues that were because of my particular DSL connection.

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shell out the 3/4 bucks a month and just get a hosting plan with a we hosting provider! :P

1) Not as cheap as you think
2) The cheaper ones have a bandwidth limitation per month
3) easy access to update would be a pain (the current server is four feet from where I sit and I have direct connection via the keyboard/mouse to update pages).
4) Totally messes up the IP address (you don't want to know the troubles that I've had/have regarding my IP address and the DNS server).
5) Yes, I could have a outside host just handle certain files for downloading. Again price and bandwidth limitations per month

And mostly... I can't afford it. There is basically no income at the moment and definitely no income from the website.

Now, if I win Powerball, it won't be a problem
post #5109 of 5626
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Originally Posted by SycamoreSeej View Post

Could always wait til the clip's on YouTube.

Let's think about that for a moment.... 1080i H.264 vs YouTube crap video quality...

Nope, nothing to think about.
post #5110 of 5626
Hey Mattymo: you guys have your Splicer V3 upgrade on order, as well as the necessary equipment to do inserts?
post #5111 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Let's think about that for a moment.... 1080i H.264 vs YouTube crap video quality...

Nope, nothing to think about.

But its a 35 second clip? to me, that aint worth a 10 minute download, HD or not.
post #5112 of 5626
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Originally Posted by SycamoreSeej View Post

But its a 35 second clip? to me, that aint worth a 10 minute download, HD or not.

Are you in such a hurry that you can't do something else during the time it may take to download something?
post #5113 of 5626
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Originally Posted by demogr View Post
Unfortunately still seeing closed captioning problems. I'll PM to UMatter2Charter
Thanks to CharterSteve for continuing to help me resolve my closed captioning problems in private messages. We finally figured out that turning off "Digital Captions" on the TiVo and only using "Standard Captions" resulted in the captions being decoded correctly.

Seems a little counter-intuitive since these are all digital channels, but as long as it's working I'm happy.
post #5114 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Are you in such a hurry that you can't do something else during the time it may take to download something?

True, you can do a lot things that take up ten minutes. But the society today is so wrapped up in their ADHD brains that stuff needs to happen ASAP. 10 minutes is a LONG time to those people, but not me.

A lot of people like me use library computers because we cannot afford internet or cable at home. So we get 2 hours of internet a day (some places only 1 hour), but cannot D/L anything. So YT would be the best option, PQ be damned.
post #5115 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Hey Mattymo: you guys have your Splicer V3 upgrade on order, as well as the necessary equipment to do inserts?

Not yet...
post #5116 of 5626
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Originally Posted by SycamoreSeej View Post

But the society today is so wrapped up in their ADHD brains that stuff needs to happen ASAP. 10 minutes is a LONG time to those people, but not me.

For those who can't wait, give them a 300 baud modem for a day and see what happens after that. A 10 minute wait will seem like nothing. It is all relative
post #5117 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mattymo View Post

Not yet...

Waiting for the mother ship to give approval?
post #5118 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

For those who can't wait, give them a 300 baud modem for a day and see what happens after that. A 10 minute wait will seem like nothing. It is all relative

Very true. There were somedays where the library computers were so slow, I've had dial-up go faster than them!
post #5119 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post
Waiting for the mother ship to give approval?
new EAS equipment is on order and will be in sometime this year to comply with FCC CAP requirements... the box we're getting is also compatible with the FOX Splicer stuff, so once we know dates/timelines, I'm sure this will get done.
post #5120 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mattymo View Post

new EAS equipment is on order and will be in sometime this year to comply with FCC CAP requirements... the box we're getting is also compatible with the FOX Splicer stuff, so once we know dates/timelines, I'm sure this will get done.

If the ATSC had done it right, all of the emergency warning stuff would have been built into the PSIP. They totally screwed up with regards to emergency notification.

While a piece of external EAS gear would probably still be needed, it would interface with the PSIP encoder.

Instead of the program being interrupted with crawls and constant graphics, instead, a large enough red circle (warning), yellow circle (watch) and audio warning would appear on the screen/be heard. The viewer could then, at a time of their choosing, click an EAS button on their remote and the EAS info would appear on their screen. Then, when they are done reading the EAS info, either do what is necessary for their area, or go back to programming.

But, instead the ATSC idiots (IMHO) decided to do nothing and leave it just like the old analog days. Stupid.

I know, even if we had it done the right way, that still wouldn't stop the weather staff from any of the stations breaking into programming.
post #5121 of 5626
Did WKOW interrupt the Combat Hospital premiere with weather stuff, either live, and/or via the graphic overlays?
post #5122 of 5626
Hi,

Recently moved to Madison (Shorewood Hills) and got Charter hooked up. TV fine. Phone Fine.

Internet....flaky. I need a reliable internet connection and 2 of the first 5 nights it has been out/unusable. (Upload speeds died tonight for a long time).

2 questions:
1- Is this normal for charter in this area? Slow/unusable/out relatively frequently?

2- Is ATT Uverse any better for internet?

Thanks -
post #5123 of 5626
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Originally Posted by bald View Post

Hi,

Recently moved to Madison (Shorewood Hills) and got Charter hooked up. TV fine. Phone Fine.

Internet....flaky. I need a reliable internet connection and 2 of the first 5 nights it has been out/unusable. (Upload speeds died tonight for a long time).

2 questions:
1- Is this normal for charter in this area? Slow/unusable/out relatively frequently?

2- Is ATT Uverse any better for internet?

Thanks -

1- Not for me. Is this an apartment building? Either way, call them immediately. Shoulda been your first move.
2- I believe ATT is DSL, I'll assume you go with the 3 way, like you did with Charter. Internet is generally slower with DSL, tho whether or not you notice it is debatable. Picture quality is pretty much agreed is worse than cable. Postives : it's not Charter, way more HD channels, newer equipment
Well, that is my 3 and a quarter cents (had to raise it to compensate for the rising fuel costs)
post #5124 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mborland View Post

1- Not for me. Is this an apartment building? Either way, call them immediately. Shoulda been your first move.
2- I believe ATT is DSL, I'll assume you go with the 3 way, like you did with Charter. Internet is generally slower with DSL, tho whether or not you notice it is debatable. Picture quality is pretty much agreed is worse than cable. Postives : it's not Charter, way more HD channels, newer equipment
Well, that is my 3 and a quarter cents (had to raise it to compensate for the rising fuel costs)

Yeah, I called them first. The rep said I clearly had a bad surge protector. /rolls eyes.

Eventually they decided it was a problem in my area (same as 2 nights before) and they were "working on it."

I don't expect knowledgeable tech support from Charter over the phone, but I do expect to be able to use the internet when I'm paying over $150/mo for a cable package.

I'll give it another week. Thanks for your reply.
post #5125 of 5626
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Originally Posted by bald View Post

Hi,

Recently moved to Madison (Shorewood Hills) and got Charter hooked up. TV fine. Phone Fine.

Internet....flaky. I need a reliable internet connection and 2 of the first 5 nights it has been out/unusable. (Upload speeds died tonight for a long time).

2 questions:
1- Is this normal for charter in this area? Slow/unusable/out relatively frequently?

2- Is ATT Uverse any better for internet?

Thanks -

Welcome to Madison!

As to your first question ... depends on who you ask. I work in IT, so I get to hear about it anytime someone at work has a computer problem. Charter's network was -- IMHO -- very unreliable a few years ago, and there are a lot of folks in town who still have a very negative opinion of their service. I have heard more complaints about Charter than any other company. I think it will be very hard for them to turn that around. I had them a few years ago, and noticed problems, too -- and the problems appeared to be with their backbone. I'd see intermittent huge packet loss and latency between the 3rd and 4th hop on a traceroute. But, when you'd try to tell Charter support about it, it was always the same BS about how I must have a bad NIC, or I should unplug my router. Their phone support is still truly horrid. But the network reliability seems to have improved. AT&T's prices kept going up so I took a flyer on Charter and the service has been reliable for me over the past few months since I switched back.

Anyway, you might want to post to the Charter Direct support forum on broadbandreports.com (https://secure.dslreports.com/forum/charterdirect) -- the folks there can usually cut through the BS for you and find the actual problem.

To your second question, AT&T Uverse was rock solid for me. If it weren't for price, I'd still be a Uverse Internet customer. Unfortunately, AT&T makes it a pain to order Internet-only. They try to strong-arm you into buying a bundle -- before they would just tell you it was impossible (so you had to sign up for TV, then cancel it). Now they charge you a hefty install fee for Internet-only ($250!!!).

I did not like their TV service. Uverse has a lot more HD channels than Charter (including WGN America, which is nice for watching the Cubs or Sox in HD, but for some reason Charter refuses to carry), but I didn't like the DVR. The Uverse DVR interface sucks, though I may be spoiled from using Tivo, and it was buggy -- kept crashing. Maybe those have been improved upon since I tried Uverse TV a couple years ago, but we bought a Tivo HD, so we're kinda sunk cost on Charter TV now. Also, if you think Charter is expensive for TV, wait until you see Uverse's prices -- especially if you want an HD DVR, and/or want to hook up more than one TV. It is ridiculous.

For example, if I ordered the same TV package from AT&T I get now from Charter (U100 package with one HDTV DVR, 2 non HDTV TVs) AT&T charges $83/month after the initial 6 month promotion is over. Charter chages $57/month for the same package (and I'm actually paying $35/month on a 12 month promo). That's a savings of $48 a month just on TV. Likewise, AT&T's 12 Mbps Uverse Internet would be $52/month. That's the same price as Charter's 12 Mbps service with a leased cable modem -- at normal price. But I bought my own cable modem (which you can't do with Uverse) and am on a 12-month promotion for $30/month.
post #5126 of 5626
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Originally Posted by RonBurgundy View Post

Welcome to Madison!

As to your first question .....m (which you can't do with Uverse) and am on a 12-month promotion for $30/month.

Thanks for the welcome - we're really enjoying Madison so far. Moved from NH, but I'm originally from IA, so this is a move back near home for me.

Thanks for the info re: charter vs uverse. I really like the speed of charter...when it works. Last night I have no idea what their problem was, I had a downstream of like 40mbit and nearly 0 (when I got it to measure it was about 30kbps) upstream which made browsing the web...weird...and sending emails...impossible. Then after a few hours it suddenly fixed itself.

I initially went with charter for internet speed and based on my concern over Uverse TV - the DVR sounded crappy (I only have 1 HDTV - I dont need a total home dvr - I have a slingbox anyway) and I love watching HD college football, and had heard their PQ wasnt that great.

Sounds like ideally I would keep charter for phone/tv and get Uverse internet...doesn't sound like that is happening with a $250 install fee though.

We'll see what happens. Going to give them a week or so before I call for my refund.

Thanks.
post #5127 of 5626
I don't live in Madison, but I've had Charter for internet access a couple different times. I've never had problems with actually moving bits around.

However, Charter's customer service is awful. I mean, mind-blowingly terrible. Wretched. Incompetence organization-wide. Be prepared to be frustrated to the point your head is ready to explode.
post #5128 of 5626
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Originally Posted by bald View Post

Hi,

Recently moved to Madison (Shorewood Hills) and got Charter hooked up. TV fine. Phone Fine.

Internet....flaky. I need a reliable internet connection and 2 of the first 5 nights it has been out/unusable. (Upload speeds died tonight for a long time).

2 questions:
1- Is this normal for charter in this area? Slow/unusable/out relatively frequently?

2- Is ATT Uverse any better for internet?

Thanks -

I'm surprised Umatter2Charter (AVSForum username) hasn't responded. When he does, he can be very helpful. Maybe you should try PM'ing him.
post #5129 of 5626
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Originally Posted by greggplummer View Post

I'm surprised Umatter2Charter (AVSForum username) hasn't responded. When he does, he can be very helpful. Maybe you should try PM'ing him.

We did via PM

Thanks,

Dylan
post #5130 of 5626
Bye bye RTV...looks like I will have to get my Erin-Gray-in-her-little-white-boots fix on WPVN. Those of you up in the People's Republic will get MeTV, where you will see a lot of MASH, Hogan's Heroes, and Dick van Dyke. But no Erin Gray.
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