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post #5161 of 5626
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

38. It's on a short tower not far from WMTV/WBUW.

I looked up the map from the FCC. I think I know where they are located.

I moved the outside antenna and pointed it south and actually tuned it in on the computer. A capture is currently in progress.

UPDATE: file in the mail
post #5162 of 5626
Tonight they ran the 10pm newscast long, cutting into the major story on Nightline. Actually, they didn't go back to net until the story was done and the commercials started.

Gee, that is what hard drive servers are for. It allows one to delay the program, instead of doing what they did.
post #5163 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

Tonight they run long the 10pm newscast, cutting into the major story on Nightline. Actually, they didn't go back to net until the story was done and the commercials started.

Gee, that is what hard drive servers are for. It allows one to delay the program, instead of doing what they did.

Does WKOW's affiliation agreement with ABC allow them to delay the program like you want? I know that is prohibited by NBC network. Anyone else know about CBS or FOX??
post #5164 of 5626
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Originally Posted by George Molnar View Post

Does WKOW's affiliation agreement with ABC allow them to delay the program like you want? I know that is prohibited by NBC network. Anyone else know about CBS or FOX??

WKOW has delayed lots of programming during high school March madness. A five minute delay is nothing, which I doubt that the network would have cared. I just don't know if the station has the capability to do a live delay.
post #5165 of 5626
WKOW may have permission to delay ABC programming, or maybe they just do it and hope they don't get caught. (General observation: Some people follow the rules while others do what they want.)
post #5166 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mrvideo View Post

WKOW has delayed lots of programming during high school March madness. A five minute delay is nothing, which I doubt that the network would have cared. I just don't know if the station has the capability to do a live delay.

Hey, WKOW is pre-empting ABC tomorrow night for Packers pre-season football. You going to be OK?

(What does ABC even air on Saturday night?)
post #5167 of 5626
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Originally Posted by RonBurgundy View Post

Hey, WKOW is pre-empting ABC tomorrow night for Packers pre-season football. You going to be OK?

I'll be fine. They can pre-empt whatever they want, even put up crap on the screen and it won't affect me, as I get my ABC programming fix via other methods.
post #5168 of 5626
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Originally Posted by RonBurgundy View Post

Hey, WKOW is pre-empting ABC tomorrow night for Packers pre-season football. You going to be OK?

(What does ABC even air on Saturday night?)

Harry Potter movies as of late. It's either that or COPS on FOX. No wait, not in Chicago last Saturday...
post #5169 of 5626
Saturday night is TV death, but my wife and I do appreciate that Numb3rs weekends is on at 10:30 on KOW...we'd have to wait until 11:30 on WBBM or WREX, and by then we'd be asleep.
My 91XG is actually able to pick up WISC and WHA every evening, like clockwork...about an hour before sunset until about 3 hours after. If this pattern holds, by November I should be able to catch the 3pm NFL games on 3. I hope there are a few that aren't on the other 3 CBSs.
post #5170 of 5626
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post

My 91XG is actually able to pick up WISC and WHA every evening, like clockwork...about an hour before sunset until about 3 hours after. If this pattern holds, by November I should be able to catch the 3pm NFL games on 3. I hope there are a few that aren't on the other 3 CBSs.

I get the Milwaukee newspaper and I've found in almost all instances what's offered on WDJT is offered on WISC here. The NFL and CBS view Madison and Milwaukee as the same football market.

Chicago is a different market, so the games can more likely be different there.

I liked your reception page. I wish I could get WGN over the air - no chance of that here in town.
post #5171 of 5626
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Originally Posted by whosbest1 View Post

I get the Milwaukee newspaper and I've found in almost all instances what's offered on WDJT is offered on WISC here. The NFL and CBS view Madison and Milwaukee as the same football market.

Chicago is a different market, so the games can more likely be different there.

I liked your reception page. I wish I could get WGN over the air - no chance of that here in town.

But, Milwaukee is a primary market; when the Packers are at home, there won't be another game on in that time slot. Since Madison is a secondary market, the non-Packer game network can show another game. It works the same way with Chicago & Rockford for the Bears.

Thanks for the compliment. I find this to be the perfect hobby for this stage of my life; cheap, and keeps me at home with the kids. I've had a crush on Madison for years (it is the ideal small city), so it's nice to get your stations. I also had a front-row seat for all of the Wisco-drama that's been going on, and I can say that the Madison TV stations had more ballanced reporting than those in Milwaukee.
post #5172 of 5626
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post

But, Milwaukee is a primary market; when the Packers are at home, there won't be another game on in that time slot. Since Madison is a secondary market, the non-Packer game network can show another game. It works the same way with Chicago & Rockford for the Bears.

Perhaps in theory that can happen, but WISC realizes what they're up against during a slot when the Pack are on Fox on Sunday PMs and from what I've seen over the years doesn't do that. I suspect they feel they can make more $$ from some cheap locally originated programing that non-football fans will watch during those times where they can sell all the commercial slots.
post #5173 of 5626
Good point...the non-Packer fan base probably numbers in the dozens. But 47 did have some Viking games last season that weren't on in any of the other FOXs, so I'll take what I can get.
post #5174 of 5626
Saw this and thought of Mr. Video.

post #5175 of 5626
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Originally Posted by mattymo View Post

Saw this and thought of Mr. Video.

Oh, so very true. SyFy is another example of the horrible situation. Just one of many.
post #5176 of 5626
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post

Good point...the non-Packer fan base probably numbers in the dozens. But 47 did have some Viking games last season that weren't on in any of the other FOXs, so I'll take what I can get.

I have to assume by "other FOXs" you mean the other Fox affiliates that you can receive.

It would seem kinda silly for Fox to send out a football game to one Fox affiliate
post #5177 of 5626
I get weak intermittent signals from all Madison channels at the same time occasionally. I live just south of Milton on higher ground and use a 5 element antenna in the garage attic. I've always gotten very good to excellent signal. So good, that I can get all the Rockford channels and occasionally WMVS (DTV 10) , 18, and 36 out of Milwaukee off the back/side of the antenna. I use an SVI 15 db booster within 10' of RG6 to the antenna. When things are "normal" I have 75% to 95% signal on all channels. This is on all 3 TVs connected up to an SVI 4 port booster. I even tried disconnecting the booster and tried a direct hook up to the shortest run in the house of about 35 feet. Same thing.

This morning at 6AM and till almost 9:30AM channel 3 (50) came in intermittently and all other Madison channels were absent. About 9:30 all were back in the 55% to 75% range. Right now, 4PM, I get about 75% on 3 (50) and about 55% on WBUW 57. Any idea what may cause this intermitent signal drop? When this happens, maybe every few days/weeks, it has been in the morning hours. (reduced power?) Rockford channels are always rock solid and vary from 55% to 95%. Is there some common tower or terrain phenomenon?
post #5178 of 5626
Tropo from Chicago will do that- there are 4 co-channels down here on the same freqs as WISC, WMTV, WBUW, and WHA. We were getting South Bend and Grand Rapids this morning, so you could've been getting ours.
Tropo is a blast when you want to dx, but a total pain when you want to watch something on a local station.
post #5179 of 5626
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post
Tropo from Chicago will do that- there are 4 co-channels down here on the same freqs as WISC, WMTV, WBUW, and WHA. We were getting South Bend and Grand Rapids this morning, so you could've been getting ours.
Tropo is a blast when you want to dx, but a total pain when you want to watch something on a local station.
It's possible. But what about ABC WKOW Ch. 27 (26UHF)? And usually if tropo is in effect I'll get the Milwaukee channels. When I had the antenna tuned more southerly, I would get 7 out of Chicago at times and a few others. So I deliberately turned the antenna to favor the Madison stations. If it is tropo then there might be some null point thing occurring?
post #5180 of 5626
KOW's co-channels are down in Champaign, and waaay up in northern Michigan, so they might not be much of a problem.
The tropo can affect different freqs at different times, so it's a total crap shoot. If it was "blowing in" from the southeast, it could tank 3, 15, 21, & 57, but 27 and 47 would be normal because the nearest co-channels to the southeast are several hundred miles away. If the tropo was only affecting the higher freqs, it could wipe out WISC (way up on 50) because of too much WXFT, but not hurt WMTV and WHA on 19 & 20. So some stations get weird while others stay normal.
The best way to combat this is with a more directional antenna that will ignore off-target signals.
post #5181 of 5626
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Originally Posted by LithOTA View Post
KOW's co-channels are down in Champaign, and waaay up in northern Michigan, so they might not be much of a problem.
The tropo can affect different freqs at different times, so it's a total crap shoot. If it was "blowing in" from the southeast, it could tank 3, 15, 21, & 57, but 27
The best way to combat this is with a more directional antenna that will ignore off-target signals.
I agree, but what I'm saying is that 21, 27, & 57 were also out. Everything from Madison. Over the 3 to 3 1/2 hours I tuned to WISC 3 (50) and it was there intermittently, but all other Madison channels were dead. . . no signal on three TVs, Then, by about 9:30 AM and since all was well. Right now WISC is at 75% which is about normal. Sometimes it's as high as 90%. This is the first time, though, that ALL Madison channels were out in a morning time frame. Usually if it's tropo I might loose 57 and 47. . . maybe 15. But this is a first that all were out and only 3 came in weakly on and off.
post #5182 of 5626
Looks like NFLN and NFLRZ have been added here in Madison on Charter (or will be shortly):

NFLN: 315 (SD), 669 (HD)
NFL Red Zone: 316 (SD), 670 (HD)

I found out through a notification on my Tivo. It also shows up in the zap2it TV listings. But I don't have the sports view or digital view plus package, so I don't know if it's actually live.
post #5183 of 5626
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Originally Posted by RonBurgundy View Post

Looks like NFLN and NFLRZ have been added here in Madison on Charter (or will be shortly):

NFLN: 315 (SD), 669 (HD)
NFL Red Zone: 316 (SD), 670 (HD)

I found out through a notification on my Tivo. It also shows up in the zap2it TV listings. But I don't have the sports view or digital view plus package, so I don't know if it's actually live.

I do believe this is the correct info. I am going to double check this info and make sure and post again if it is not.

Thanks,

Joe
post #5184 of 5626
Hi-

Just wondering if folks here are able to receive any Rockford TV stations in the city of Madison, and if so, what equipment you needed to do so.

I got to thinking about this because the Bears preseason football games are on WIFR and it would've been nice to see them.

Not sure I'll be able to pull in WIFR -- I'm on the north side of a hill, so my view to the south is a little blocked -- but was wondering what my odds are before I blow any money on a better antenna than the $15 set-top antenna I bought from Radio Shack that works fine for the Madison locals.

Thanks.
post #5185 of 5626
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Originally Posted by RonBurgundy View Post
Hi-

Just wondering if folks here are able to receive any Rockford TV stations in the city of Madison, and if so, what equipment you needed to do so.

I got to thinking about this because the Bears preseason football games are on WIFR and it would've been nice to see them.

Not sure I'll be able to pull in WIFR -- I'm on the north side of a hill, so my view to the south is a little blocked -- but was wondering what my odds are before I blow any money on a better antenna than the $15 set-top antenna I bought from Radio Shack that works fine for the Madison locals.

Thanks.
I live 10 miles south of Madison, with no obstructions to the south. I get channel 13 no problem. There have been times when I received another Rockford station, but I don't seek it out, so I can't tell you what it was (maybe 23?).

I have a UHF antenna in my attic.
post #5186 of 5626
Just got an email from Charter officially stating NFL-N and RedZone was here. However, the email said I'll need to have sports view package? I can currently see it, is that going to go away? (I don't have the sports view package.)
post #5187 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cwspurl View Post

Just got an email from Charter officially stating NFL-N and RedZone was here. However, the email said I'll need to have sports view package? I can currently see it, is that going to go away? (I don't have the sports view package.)

Sorry for the confusion. The NFL Network is also in the Digital View Plus package if you subscribe to that. There is a free preview starting 9/11/2011.
Hope that helps.

John
post #5188 of 5626
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Originally Posted by Umatter2Charter View Post

Sorry for the confusion. The NFL Network is also in the Digital View Plus package if you subscribe to that. There is a free preview starting 9/11/2011.
Hope that helps.

John

Cool- I have Digital View Plus, so should be ok. Not sure how much I'll watch, definitely wouldn't have paid extra for it, but am excited to check it out.
post #5189 of 5626
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Originally Posted by RonBurgundy View Post

Not sure I'll be able to pull in WIFR -- I'm on the north side of a hill, so my view to the south is a little blocked -- but was wondering what my odds are before I blow any money on a better antenna than the $15 set-top antenna I bought from Radio Shack that works fine for the Madison locals.

I have hill blockage to the south as well and I was barely able to see WBUW analog out of Janesville and that is with an outside long distance antenna on the roof (on a rotor).
post #5190 of 5626
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Originally Posted by cwspurl View Post

Just got an email from Charter officially stating NFL-N and RedZone was here. However, the email said I'll need to have sports view package? I can currently see it, is that going to go away? (I don't have the sports view package.)

I believe Red Zone is in the Sports View package. A little unclear, but for the HD Red feed, it seems you have to have HD Ultra.
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