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post #1531 of 8134
So is it only 1-way? i.e. from a camcorder to TV?

Reason I'm asking is that I have the opportunity to buy a very good DVD recorder with Firewire but not sure if I will be able to record from the HD signal that the set is picking up to the DVD. The product page says it has IEEE1394/i.Link, but don't know if it means it can only take a signal from a camcorder to burn to disc.
post #1532 of 8134
I have recorded OTA HD content from my 960 to my mac using the iLink interface, so it is definately 2-way.
post #1533 of 8134
Hi all-
I just took delivery of my 960 yesterday from CC. Comcast HD (Motorola) set up. This TV is incredible! I have changed the video to monitor setting and made a few slight changes to improve the picture. I want to get the DVE disc this weekend, but if anyone out there can tell me their current settings it would be really appreciated. I want to have the best picture possible and I can see that this forum is full of some very experienced contributors. Thanks.
Jim
post #1534 of 8134
I received mine on Monday and it might sound crazy but the picture is looking better each night when I watch. Maybe it's a burn-in thing, or I really am crazy.

The picture was very dark and I did adjust the settings a bit, but I'm going to wait a week or so until I use the Avia disk to calibrate it a little better.

I'm sure others in this forum will give us the same advice.
post #1535 of 8134
I think you are right about the burn-in thing. My picture looks better today than yesterday. The non-HD channels now look almost as good as the HDs looked yesterday, and the HDs look liquid.
post #1536 of 8134
This is probably in some FAQ somewhere but I thought ask anyway:

Someone in another forum where I was reading posted that since the XBR960 was a direct-view tube, it was therfore analog. The point was that this is why the set is better suited for component output vs. DVI/HDMI. I thought that it was digital all the way. I'd appreciate if someone cleared this up.

Along these lines, I've primarily used DVI to HDMI and then HDMI as I recently got the HR10-250. When my 1st HR10-250 came with a dead HDMI port, I was surprisingly pleased with the component output. It seemed much brighter.

Although I've gone back to HDMI, I feel like I might it want it a little brighter now at times. The strange thing is that this HDMI input was calibrated and the component input on Video 6 was not. I had at least made the main menu settings the same on Video 6 as Video 5. Video 5 had been calibrated for DVD. Don't get me wrong it's great picture on HDMI. Maybe it's just the Law and Order 'shows' being extremely dark where I'm observing this. HDMI seems bright enough on HD Net and Discovery HD Theater.

What opinions do you guys have in comparing your component to HDMI output for HD?
post #1537 of 8134
What do most of you guys keep the brightness at on your sets? For me, the minimum I need to set it at is 50, which seems way above the 31 default setting. I'm hoping it's not a problem.
post #1538 of 8134
the brightness on my model (34HS510) is set at 38 out of 64...

Foxfan,

maybe you need to control the room lightning. If its too sunny or too bright in the room, the picture might look a little too dark for you...
post #1539 of 8134
Actually, this was a setting I set with the room completely dark, using both the THX optimizer and the DVE disc.

From what I've heard, the standard HS is brighter than the super-fine-pitch models.
post #1540 of 8134
Several people have asked about switching the 960's video input directly to a specific source. This is indeed possible if you have an appropriate programmable remote control.

After getting my 960, I bought the Sony RM-AV2500 universal remote control. I can't post links here, so go to remotecentral-DOT-com and search for av2500 to read a great review). It does a nice job of operating my 960, a Phillips Tivo, a Toshiba DVD player and a Sony receiver and VCR. While it isn't perfect, I can strongly recommend this remote.

Page 14 of the AV2500's manual (go to docs-DOT-sony-DOT-com and search for RM-AV2500) describes a method for switching a Sony TV's input directly to a specific source. The component code 8077 is the preset code number for the input select of a Sony TV. By setting one of your universal remote's component's to use this code, you program its number keys (0-9) to select different video inputs on the TV. 0 selects the TV tuner, 1-6 select inputs VIDEO1-6, and 7-8 select inputs HD1-3.

Note that this code may only be understood by Sony remote controls. In fact, it may only work on their newest and most powerful remotes. RemoteCentral describes another method that you may want to try for selecting inputs (page 11 of the review mentioned above). Here, the user holds the Input key down while pressing one of the number keys to access a specific video input. Again, this operation may only work on certain Sony remotes.

I hope this helps!

Ben
post #1541 of 8134
I have my cable split between the STB and the TV (Cable input).

When using the built-in tuner, a diagnostics option is available through the menu. I was wondering if anyone can tell me what an acceptable level of SNR is and what AGC is. I get readings of 32-34 for SNR and 17-19 for AGC. Is this a good quality signal? I'm wondering if having the line split 3x without a booster is giving me the best HD possible from Time Warner without using their crappy box.

Sorry if this is posted somewhere else - can't seem to find the answer if it is.
post #1542 of 8134
Quote:


Originally posted by pdroth
I have my cable split between the STB and the TV (Cable input).

When using the built-in tuner, a diagnostics option is available through the menu. I was wondering if anyone can tell me what an acceptable level of SNR is and what AGC is. I get readings of 32-34 for SNR and 17-19 for AGC. Is this a good quality signal? I'm wondering if having the line split 3x without a booster is giving me the best HD possible from Time Warner without using their crappy box.

Sorry if this is posted somewhere else - can't seem to find the answer if it is.

pdroth: I asked some of the same questions much earlier on this thread, and got only a few comments. I then bought the Sony service manual, again coming up with no informationl. Finally, I went back to the store where I bought the set and asked both sales and service people about it. No one had any information. I went to the floor model and checked the signal strength it was getting, and it was about the same readings I get.

Obviously, there are specs, but I haven't been able to get any information.

My set's picture drops out at a S/N of between 23 and 25. Normally, the signal it gets is about S/N of 29 and AGC of 10-15. I am usually able to maintain signal lock for 1-2 hours before a momentary drop out, so I'm happy about my reception.

Mark
post #1543 of 8134
My new set is being delivered tomorrow (woohoo!). Somebody mentioned to me that I should leave the set on for 3 days(?) after I first receive it to alleviate any problems with dust in the tube assembly? Obviously not on a static picture. Any opinions on this?

I would also like to see the settings people are using. I see a a few posted but am certainly curious as to what the consensus opinion is. I plan on calibrating with HVE as well.
post #1544 of 8134
Greg, enjoy the new set!!

re: leaving it on: It's a good idea, because it lets everything stabilize. I think the specific recommendation is to leave it on to cumulate enough hours to completely "burn in" prior to having the set professionally calibrated. I don't believe these hours need to be consecutive, and of course you're right--don't leave it on a static image.

But there's another reason to give the set a thorough "workout." And that is to see if it suffers an early failure. (Electronic devices tend to either fail early or run a very long time.) So run it a lot to be sure everything's operating. Also, test the memory card and firewire ports if you can, to be sure they're operating. (You don't want to find out 2 years from now that these never worked!)

Mark
post #1545 of 8134
Is it possible to output video via the firewire ports. My laptop has a firewire port and wanted to capture video digitally. I have been using an analog setup with my camcorder, and I am losing quality all over the place.

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post #1546 of 8134
So, I unpacked this mother yesterday and got everything set up. They are not kidding with this thing - it is a heavy sucker! But, WOW - what an amazing image. I am using the Momitsu 880DX with a DVI-HDMI cable and upscaling to 720p. There are times it looks like you can almost put your hand through the screen!

I have two questions though. If I am using the Momitsu to upscale to 720p, should the DRC mode be set to Progressive or Cinemotion? I have it set to progressive now and it looks great but I'm not sure. What exactly does 'Cinemotion' do?

Also, I have some slight geometry bowing in the top left and bottom left of the screen. On 16x9 material it is really not noticable, but on 1:2.35 material you can see the black bars turn slightly in at the corners. Is there a way in the service menu to correct this? It only affects the left corners. I will probably wait a month or so to let the set "burn in" before I go messing with service menu options, but I would like to correct it.

Thanks, Greg
post #1547 of 8134
I've had my 960 for about a month now and the only problem I have is also with the geometry and am looking into checking out in the service menue to see if it can help if possible. How exactly do you get into the service menue?
post #1548 of 8134
Yes you can adjust this, but it will never be axactly perfect. Do a search for the official xbr910 thread, and you will find the info you need to help you cal it. Someone posted an Excel spread sheet of the service manual with good descriptions of the adjustments. It maybe somewhere in this thread also. Make sure to copy the default setting's down, as the geometry settings take some time to figure out, and you may need to take a step back at some point.
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post #1550 of 8134
We've had our XBR960's (one for me...one for the wife and kids) for 3 and a half weeks now and other than slight geometry issues in the upper left and right corners...these damn TV sets are AWESOME!!!! Mines is hooked up via Cox cable card while theirs has a COX STB with built in DVR. I've tweaked the PQ referencing quite a few recommendations from this thread and without throwing out more superlatives of praise...besides the great deal I got from Bernie's here in CT, let's just say this was one of the best purchases I've ever made.

P.S. In order for me to get mines...HAD to get THEM one too.
post #1551 of 8134
I had a chance to use the DVE disc the other night and am happy to say almost all my settings were spot on. Since I have Comcast HD with a Motorola box, I called Comcast to see if they broadcast a test signal but unfortunately they do not. My geometry is fine and I consider myself lucky not to have to go into the service menu, yet. The picture is really amazing when the source was shot in HD as well. Am I missing something? Is it common to be able to get a great picture from DVE and the user menu?
Thanks,
Jim
post #1552 of 8134
Quote:


Originally posted by Greg Samsa

I have two questions though. If I am using the Momitsu to upscale to 720p, should the DRC mode be set to Progressive or Cinemotion? I have it set to progressive now and it looks great but I'm not sure. What exactly does 'Cinemotion' do?

Thanks, Greg

If I remember correctly DRC is disabled on a 720p signal, so you should not be able to select Progressive or Cinemotion. Cinemotion is used for Film based material, it engages a 3/2 pulldown to convert from 24 frames per second to 30 frames per second. Progressive is good for Video based material, Freinds or Seinfeld for example. If your are close to the TV you may actually prefer interlaced.
post #1553 of 8134
Why does a top-of-the-line CRT t.v. like the XBR960 have geometry that's off on quite a few of the sets? Also, does
anyone know if Sony is aware of this problem, and has it been fixed on all new production XBR960 t.v.'s?
post #1554 of 8134
That's a very good question and is the only reason I haven't bought an XBR960 already.
post #1555 of 8134
Quote:
Originally posted by Dunedain
Why does a top-of-the-line CRT t.v. like the XBR960 have geometry that's off on quite a few of the sets? Also, does
anyone know if Sony is aware of this problem, and has it been fixed on all new production XBR960 t.v.'s?

Dunedain:

I don't think it's so much a fault of Sony as much a fault of aperture grill CRT technology. The one benefit of plasma or LCD technology is better geometry, though these two technologies have their own list of faults. However, when compared to other widescreen CRTs I've seen, Sony actually comes the closest to near perfect geometry.

On my 19" Sony Trinitron CRT computer monitor, I can notice, if I look really hard, slight geometry issues in the corners. Blow this up to 34", and the flaw becomes magnified.

If geometry is an issue for you, grab an LCD. However, I think you're sacrificing a lot more by going with an LCD over what little you gain.
post #1556 of 8134
I have no intention of going with an inferior LCD display, for a t.v. or even for a computer monitor.

Well, if it's just a minor thing on the geometry, then it's no big deal I guess. Although it would be nice
to see it further improved.

Of far more concern is the apparent frequency of bad power supplies in the XBR960. Reliablity is a must
with a high-end t.v., so this needs to be corrected ASAP, so no more t.v.'s are made with this problem.
post #1557 of 8134
Thread Starter 
Do any XBR960 owners have computers hooked up to their t.v.'s? If so what video cards are you using?


Thanks for your help.
post #1558 of 8134
Anyone been able to get the firmware updated on this TV? I know service bulletins are out there, and can get updates via memory stick...
post #1559 of 8134
I haven't heard of this hancox, please keep us posted if you hear anything.
post #1560 of 8134
Upscaling Question...

I bought the NS975. I didn't purchase for the upscaling, since I have read I won't see anything better, in terms of PQ, on the 960. I bought it so I can free up one of my componets Inputs, by using the HDMI port on the television. I have been fiddling with the player settings, toggling between, 1080 and 720, but I wonder, should I just leave it at 480p?

Perhaps I would get the best PQ on that setting?
I'm a novice to this native resolution stuff.
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