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post #4681 of 8134
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Originally Posted by jpl3447 View Post

Circuit City had one display model in my state

If that's accurate then that must be the one I bought last Thursday. I went into CC thinking I'd be getting the 970 and they had a 960 on display.

I'm pretty dang impressed at this point and I haven't even done any tweaking yet. I've got a lot of reading to do but I would be really grateful if I could get some initial advice as a brand new 960 owner (how many pages is this thread ).

I have AVIA but haven't had a chance to run it yet.

Signed up just now just so I could talk with you guys about this set. Looking forward to learning all about the 960.
post #4682 of 8134
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Originally Posted by wbrett View Post

If that's accurate then that must be the one I bought last Thursday. I went into CC thinking I'd be getting the 970 and they had a 960 on display.

I'm pretty dang impressed at this point and I haven't even done any tweaking yet. I've got a lot of reading to do but I would be really grateful if I could get some initial advice as a brand new 960 owner (how many pages is this thread ).

I have AVIA but haven't had a chance to run it yet.

Signed up just now just so I could talk with you guys about this set. Looking forward to learning all about the 960.


That is the one I was talking about It was in OKC.

I was going to drive down and look at it and then decided to get the one from BB. This was about two weeks ago. Congrats on your new purchase!

I have read that in this thread there are settings posted that Avia users have come up with and they seem pretty close to one another. So just inputting the settings can save you from using the Avia until an ISF tech calibrates it. I don't know what the settings are since this thread is so big but I am sure a search can find some of them.

Again congrats on getting that TV!
post #4683 of 8134
I must admit, I was enamored with getting my hands on a KD-34XBR960 when I first started reading this thread. I ended up settling for a KD-34XBR970. However, the thought of having to unplug the 960 and cross my fingers that it powers up every so often seems like a bit much. I'd like to see the truth on why Sony discontinued the SFP tubes.
post #4684 of 8134
I've had my 960 for 15 months and it has not had one glitch. Manuf date June 05.
I even have it in a semi-enclosed cabinet and it runs fine. I know the eearlier models had tuner issues. I think mine was near the end of production.
post #4685 of 8134
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Originally Posted by papi34 View Post

I must admit, I was enamored with getting my hands on a KD-34XBR960 when I first started reading this thread. I ended up settling for a KD-34XBR970. However, the thought of having to unplug the 960 and cross my fingers that it powers up every so often seems like a bit much. I'd like to see the truth on why Sony discontinued the SFP tubes.

My 960 has this occasional problem as well. It really isn't that big of a deal, though. It rarely happens and when it does, simply unplugging and replugging it works every time. It's a small inconvenience from an otherwise amazingly good TV.
post #4686 of 8134
Now that the other cataract was removed I can honestly say I am even more floored by the life-like picture of the 960. It's not that I was unable to see clearly and unhappy with picture quality prior to the procedure but now with approximate 20-25 vision in both eyes it's almost like getting a new set. I was amazed how richer the detail, blacks, sharpness and clarity appeared after the patch was removed and was then able to improve the picture even more with a slight increase in brightness and equally slight lowering of my original contrast and sharpness settings using the INHD test patterns for HD (recorded on DVR) and THX Optimizer for DVDs. It is so stunning that it reminds me of the experience I had went the set first arrived in August, 2005. ).

Of course, I would not recommend surgery as a means of improving the picture but it sure did help LOL. I own the 960 model, not the 960N and it set has a manufacturing date of May, 2005.
post #4687 of 8134
I went to my Circuit City and was walking by a box when the numbers 960 caught my eye. It was a clearance tag and it said it was for the KV-34XBR960. It was a misprint... it should have been KD instead of KV. But it was $98.96. Normally these are a lot more? Anyways I got it and wanted to let others know they might want to check their Circuit City stocks for this stand. Looks good to me on the websites!
post #4688 of 8134
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Originally Posted by dicey View Post

My 960 has this occasional problem as well. It really isn't that big of a deal, though. It rarely happens and when it does, simply unplugging and replugging it works every time. It's a small inconvenience from an otherwise amazingly good TV.

Yea it is a strange symptom indeed , ive had to unplug mine twice in the 7 months ive owned it but the picture quality still amazes me to this day.
post #4689 of 8134
I got the last one at Best Buy in K.C. in April. I have not yet had this problem of having to unplug the set. I have had some issues with the set with the Scientic Atlanta HDTV box in the hmdi mode. Some times I would have to power down the HDTV box and reboot it, and leave tv for several minutes. This is never happen with the component mode connections.

Anyway the picture is just super and I am very happy I got it.
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Does anyone here know of a reason why I can't recieve the analog channels via the cable input anymore? My DVR broke and I have to watch tv without a cable box, so I plugged in the cable directly and did a auto program. It was able to find around 223 digital channels with around 70+ shown, or something like that, but 0 analog channels. I can't watch all the main networks now, just some random miscellaneous digital channels. Even if I try to manually tune into the channels like 3, 7 or 9, which is where the major networks are, I get no signal. It's strange because I use to be able to get the channels before. I don't know what I could've done to make this go away.
post #4691 of 8134
Perhaps your cable company has eliminated analog channels and is all-digital now? What cable co is it, and where?
post #4692 of 8134
For those that are still get a 960 from best buy or circuit city, how much are they charging for the set. Also is the 30 inch version essentially the same but just smaller than the 34 inch xbr960?
post #4693 of 8134
Mine was marked $949 (same as the 970) at CC but I got it for $879.
post #4694 of 8134
Any one know where I can still get a KD-34XBR960 (new if possible)?
post #4695 of 8134
If anyone here lives in the NYC area and is interested in buying a used 960, please drop me a PM...
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i work for a sony style store, sony direct retail basically, we just sold the last 2 new xbr960 last friday i was gonna buy one on saturday made me sad, but across the country in the 8 or so outlet stores we have like 20 B stock, which can be refurbished, returned, or former displays. xbr960s and also 20ish 960Ns, there is a 300$ price difference between the 2 tho

we offer up to 5 year warranties on B stock stuff also, so at least u dont have to worry about lemons.

but u can go to sony style.com and go to the bottom of any of the category pulldowns and u can see where the outlets are
post #4697 of 8134
I'm selling my 960 (manuf date june 05) in Austin TX, sorry no shipping. have orig box, remote, manual.
PM me if interested.
post #4698 of 8134
What`s the difference between the 960 and the 960N?
Thanks
post #4699 of 8134
how can i get my hands on a new one? i live in south florida i would love a new xbr960 but they are extinct i think. let me know
post #4700 of 8134
has anyone seen any in south florida?
post #4701 of 8134
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Originally Posted by redheadguy2001 View Post

i work for a sony style store, sony direct retail basically, we just sold the last 2 new xbr960 last friday i was gonna buy one on saturday made me sad, but across the country in the 8 or so outlet stores we have like 20 B stock, which can be refurbished, returned, or former displays. xbr960s and also 20ish 960Ns, there is a 300$ price difference between the 2 tho

we offer up to 5 year warranties on B stock stuff also, so at least u dont have to worry about lemons.

but u can go to sony style.com and go to the bottom of any of the category pulldowns and u can see where the outlets are

What are the prices on them out of curiosity? And can you say which are at which outlets?
post #4702 of 8134
I recently had extensive repair work done on my 7-month old KD-34XBR960n which entailed a new CRT and CXPC board. My perception is that now the picture quality, while good, is not as good as it was prior to failure and repair - particularly in HDTV. White contrast tends to bloom and blacks seem a bit too dark - overall, less sharp. Someone has suggested that settings may have been reset to initial build settings during repair and that service menu adjustments are needed to correct.
Can anyone offer clarification: are these service menu adjustments done via the Video Menu options in the Operating Manual; ie - picture, brightness, hue , sharpness, color temp. etc?
Also, would the DRC Mode and DRC Palette be appropriate for adjustment? Thanks for any advice you can offer.
post #4703 of 8134
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Originally Posted by jadecust View Post

I recently had extensive repair work done on my 7-month old KD-34XBR960n which entailed a new CRT and CXPC board. My perception is that now the picture quality, while good, is not as good as it was prior to failure and repair - particularly in HDTV. White contrast tends to bloom and blacks seem a bit too dark - overall, less sharp. Someone has suggested that settings may have been reset to initial build settings during repair and that service menu adjustments are needed to correct.
Can anyone offer clarification: are these service menu adjustments done via the Video Menu options in the Operating Manual; ie - picture, brightness, hue , sharpness, color temp. etc?
Also, would the DRC Mode and DRC Palette be appropriate for adjustment? Thanks for any advice you can offer.

The adjustments needed are likely service menu adjustments, especially the focus, landing, and covergence adjustments. See the Sony service codes thread for detailed information.
post #4704 of 8134
I would still guess that Sony owes you a calibration.

(I'm not familiar with the specifics of how the service menu is accessed. Some manufacturers void the warranty if they know you have accessed it. This was a controversy a couple years back with some Samsung models. Anyway, I'd get on Sony to finish their job...)
post #4705 of 8134
Hello everybody... I've just stumbled upon this forum and also have a 34xbr960. I bought it a few months ago at a/v store called 6th ave electronics. I could only find a display model at that time due to the fact that it was discontinued and being replaced. I got it at a pretty fair price at around $980. I've been very satisfied with its perfomance so far. I've only recently experienced two problems that i'm hoping someone can help me out with here. The manufacturing date on the set is june 2004.

1st: Sometimes when i turn on a hd channel it'll come on for a sec or so then go black and tell me there's no signal. What i've been doing to resolved this is by going up or down one channel then back to the hd channel that I want and it'll come in and play fine. Last night I spent about an hour or two manually going through some of the digital channels and noticed that because of this issue the autoprogram doesn't work 100% and found some channels that I get that didn't make it into autoprogram because of this.

2nd: Last season of smallville was in HD on WB. Now, WB and UPN (or something in that area) merged together to form the CW network. This new network is on a different channel and is the only HD channel that i can't find. I called up my cable company (cablevision) and they said that I should get it. I'm wondering if anybody can help me find out why I don't get it or what channel it is on? I live in Hamilton, NJ (Just outside of Trenton). Cablevision said that i could get a cable card which would resolve the isssue of not receving it, but i'm a little hesitant about getting a cable card because I basically get everything now.

Thanks,

Wesley

P.S. If anybody has any suggestions of how to make the picture quality better i'm all ears. Right now, it's just plugged in and running as it was when i bought it.
post #4706 of 8134
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Originally Posted by Audiophile1178 View Post

If anybody has any suggestions of how to make the picture quality better i'm all ears. Right now, it's just plugged in and running as it was when i bought it.

What? You haven't read the almost 5,000 messages posted in this discussion thread yet, where multiple answers to your question are buried?


Welcome our little corner of the universe.

As a gesture of good faith to a newcomer who asks politely (OK, and because it is easy for me to do), here is a compilation of settings that I collected from different postings here about a year ago -- pick one and give it a try. Then try another ...

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XBR960


Contrast/Picture: 45
Brightness: 31 middle setting
Tint/Hue: middle setting
Color: 31
Hue: dead center 0
SHARPNESS to "MIN"
"Clear Edge VM" to OFF
Color temp: Neutral

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USING HDMI:

MODE: PRO
PICTURE: 34
BRIGHTNESS: 22
COLOR: 31
HUE: R5 (toward red)
SHARPNESS: 30
CLEAR EDGE: Medium
COLOR AXIS: Monitor
MODE MEMORY: On

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Plasma look-alike:

Mode - standard
Picture - 48
Brightness - 31
Color - 31
Hue - 0
Sharpness - 20
Color Temp - Neutral
Clear Edge VM - off
DRC Palette - default
Color Axis - monitor

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THE first number is for Digital Cable, the second for VHS, the third for DVD (used a THX optomizer) and the fourth for DVI.

Mode: Pro on all
Picture: 37, 33, 30, 33
Brightness: 22, 28, 31, 21
Color: 26, 27, 35, 34
Hue: All R-5
Sharpness: 28, 26, 33, 35
Color Temp: Neutral on all
Clear Edge: Medium, low, high, high
DRC Mode: Interlacd, Cinemotion, Cinemotion
Color Axix: Monitor on all
DRC Pallete: r55/c61, r73/c83, r87/c85

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Always: Pro and Monitor settings.

Bright and Contrast: 50 is your ABSOLUTE ceiling value.

Probably want to go into the high 30's or so, low 40's, depending on the room light you're dealing with.

Sharpness: Around 20 or so.

Color, Hue: Dead center values. (31 color, 0 Hue.)

Color temp: Neutral

VM: Low. (most folks think OFF)

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Try your settings somewhere in this ballpark:

Pro, Monitor, VM off, Color=31, hue dead center o, Sharpness down into the teens, Brightness around high 30's low 40's, contrast about the same, give or take.

50 is a ceiling you really shouldn't cross.

Picture to Warm.

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These are the settings it took me a month to settle on:

DVD - Movie, Picture 29, Brightness 27, Color 30, R2, Sharpness 29, Color Temp warm, Clear Edge high, DRC Mode cinamotion, DRC Palette r53, c53, Color Axis default.

HDMI - Movie, Picture 34, Brightness 23, Color 33, R2, Sharpness 37, Color Temp warm, Clear Edge high, default on.

Any feedback from fellow 960 users would be greatly appreciate.

I also have settings for digital cable and VHS but haven't written them down on paper.

While he Avia is well recommended, assume it cannot be used for HD since it can only be used through a DVD player and my callibrations for HD do differ from DVD.

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For starters, set your viewing mode to Pro, Picture to around 31 (50%), Brightness around 45-50, Color and Hue around 31, and Sharpness around 29. Color Temp to use is Neutral, for DRC use Interlaced and try to keep Clear Edge "off."

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STANDARD MODE ADJUSTMENT SETTINGS:

Standard (the same settings are different in each mode because of the circuitry)
picture/contrast: 34
bright: 42
color: 27
hue/tint: 0
sharp: 31
temp: cool
VM: high (the hard core folks will balk at this but it makes std def look fantastic and does not adversely affect hi def on my XBR; A calibration is another matter with this setting
color axis: default (the skin tones on most stations look better to me. You may prefer monitor -- your choice).

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VIVID MODE ADJUSTMENT SETTINGS:
VIDEO 7 (HD): vivid, 32, 19, 32, R2, 11, warm, high, default on.

VIDEO 5 (component DVD): vivid, 20, 31, 29, R2, 19, warm, high, cinemotion, Palette 61, 54, default on.

VIDEO 4 (VHS): Vivid, 29, 17, 22, R2, 23, warm, low, cinemotion, Palette 82/81, default on.

VIDEO 1 (Standard Cable S Video): Vivid, 32, 26, 23, R2, 21, warm, low, interlaced, Palette 60/1, Default on.

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always have sharpness OFF!!!

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I, and DVE, strongly recommend that you set sharpness=MIN on your 720p/1080i HD inputs as well as your 480P DVD inputs. Sharpness in the low-20 range is probably (or possibly) what you'll need for your 480i SD inputs. Turning off sharpness (which is after all only artificially constructed edge enhancement, and is not something that is present in the true source video content) completely for HD inputs will bring out the best of the 960's tube and electronics and make you gasp at how realistic and 3D what you see onscreen appears to be.

I use INPUT6 for 720p/1080i source. PRO, VM off, color temp cool, sharpness MIN, picture 35, brightness 32, color 31, hue 0, Advanced - color axis DEFAULT, mode memory ON.

I use INPUT5 for 480p DVD (and my Sony DVP-9000ES has a slightly darker component video output than my HD source devices). PRO, VM off, color temp cool, sharpness MIN, picture 34, brightness 36, color 36, hue G1, Advanced - color axis DEFAULT, mode memory ON.

I use INPUT1 for D* SD via S-video, with PRO, VM off, color temp cool, picture 39, brightness 33, color 34, hue 0, sharpness 21, Advanced - color axis DEFAULT, mode memory ON. I also have DRC=progressive.

I use INPUT3 for OTA and Comcast cable SD channels via S-video, with PRO, VM off, color temp cool, picture 40, brightness 34, color 34, hue 0, sharpness 19, Advanced - color axis DEFAULT, mode memory ON, and DRC=progressive.

Very significant is the recommended service menu adjustment to reduce "red push" and bring skin tone colors back to human! These are the four items 13-16 in the 2170P-4 group: RYR->13, RYB->15, GYR->5, GYB->4. I think you will find the positive effect of these four adjustments to be gigantic. These SM values are implicit in the above settings for color, hue, brightness and picture for the various inputs. [NOTE: service menu tweaks should ALWAYS be accompanied by first writing down the current value before adjusting, so that you can revert back to that value if something goes wrong or you change your mind, or at the very least for your historical record keeping.)

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Many people recommend starting with Monitor: Pro (and pumping up the other settings a bit), others say start with Monitor: Vivid and reducing many other settings

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post #4707 of 8134
Thank you for your reply. I'm at work now so i'll have to look at those settings later. I also have a dvp-s9000es. Would you happen to know any of the answers to my first two questions? Also, would there be any point in getting one of the newer sony es dvd players for its upconversion? I believe it's ns9100es or something like that. I think the picture from my 9000es at 480p is pretty damn good, but am wondering if it could be better.

Thanks again,

Wesley
post #4708 of 8134
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Originally Posted by Audiophile1178 View Post

If anybody has any suggestions of how to make the picture quality better i'm all ears. Right now, it's just plugged in and running as it was when i bought it.

Hello and welcome to the forum! I strongly recommend that you have your set ISF callibrated. I would always try to find the right settings for the best possible picture quality but ever since my 960 was callibrated, I don't even touch the settings anymore.
post #4709 of 8134
How much does this service cost to get done? I assume that someone comes out to my house?
post #4710 of 8134
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Originally Posted by Audiophile1178 View Post

How much does this service cost to get done? I assume that someone comes out to my house?

I had Eliab from Avical come out to my house for the callibration. He is in North Jersey but came to my neck of the woods for the session. The total price was $350 (Tier 2) and worth every penny of it, the price is lower than the posted $450 because it's a Direct View Display. He is highly recommended. Eliab had nothing but great things to say about the 960. The URL is www.avical.com
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