Originally Posted by laststop311
The picture on it looks perfect. I still think my un55b8500 looks better. Everyone in here is talking like lcd and plasma is garbage compared to this set. Look at the blacks and whites of a b8500 with full array led local dimming. the blacks are as black as black can be. Sure in extreme situations like credits scrolling u can notice a slight brighter black halo around the letters but other than that the b8500 does an amazing job.
neccrttv what exactly am i looking for in the service menu? does it show the hours the tube has on it because he kinda guessed at 35k? What is the average life expectancy of the tube on this set? I guess tubes do last pretty long my grandma has a 1950's black and white tv that still works the same as when she bought it 60 freakin years ago.
The picture definately looks good on this set. But to say it is superior to every lcd and plasma is just so false. The pioneer kuro 9g has black levels that are barely even readable almost pure black and pioneer had the tech to make zero black level panels i think they called it fuga but they got out the game before it came to market.
Just help me out with the service menu thing ill try to get him to drop the price ill tell him to come look at this thread
also remember crt's went through like what 100 generations. Look what pioneer did with just 9 generations. Imagine how good plasmas will look if there were 100 generations of them.
CRT have a very high life expentency, I have seen myself some from the 70's that are used every day for 8-10 hours and that no color has shifted.
XBR sets have better tubes usually than the lower end models. Usually they have tubes made for crt monitors (M tubes instead of A tubes for example A68ADT27X01(27" RCA) and M90AHL50X like my XP37 Xtra (36" NEC)) that outlast most tubes. Remember that after about 1995, most companies shifted to Mexico for their factory's and tube quality(geometry, convergence), and life expentency suffered a lot. Life expentency shifted from 15-25 years to 5-10 years in low end V and S series of Sony. Try using the circuit of a 2001 Panasonic in a broken GAOO of 1994. It looked better than the 2001 and the 2001 was almost unused while the 1994's tube had been used for over 10 years at 2-4 hours daily.
Tube quality is so much lower than before... I've seen 1990's XBR (SD) with better quality in S-Video than most plasmas and lcd's in HD...
The XBR960 and the DA4 chassis is a chassis that has many digital filters and all and picture would have been 10 times better had it been analog multisync instead of digital. It's only a HDTV, like all LCD's and plasmas.
CRT and LCD (not LED LCD mind you) are not to be compared really, they are two completely different ways of showing an image. One is using additive coloring and the other one, subtractive (filtering) coloring.
I have to admit, Samsung makes by far some of the best LCD's and with the advent of select Led backlight control, LCD has surpassed any recent CRT HDTV (not monitors) since tube quality control is so low.
Only high end CRT and CRT monitors surpass LCD and plasma but since like 99% of the population has ugly low-end CRT's, of course lcd and plasma have taken over. Size and cost of construction was too much.
For all Sony's that are recent (1990 + and even older). the service menu can be attained by pressing, while the TV is closed, on the remote, Display, 5 then Volume up and then Power . I'll have to check if the da4 can tell you it's running hours. Pressing Display , 5 , then Vol down and then Power will enter self-check mode and tell you if the Tv has ever had a shutdown or some flashing lights in the past, advising you that the problem could come back.