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post #2611 of 3311
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Originally Posted by paragon View Post


This response from stations frustrates the hell out of me. It's one thing for a station to say that they can't do HD newscasts right now because of the costs involved, but to say never just shows a total lack of care for your customers and a total lack of foresight. This would be like them saying 60 years ago or whatever that they didn't ever have plans to broadcast the news in color. At some point, it's going to be considered totally obsolete to not broadcast in HD.

Well, they were just exaggerating when they said they would probably never be able to broadcast the news in HD. I think they just meant it would be a long time before they could do it as a result of the costs involved. And yes, I think in the not so distant future, it will be obsolete for stations to not broadcast in HD.
post #2612 of 3311
I do find myself watching local news on WTAE an WPXI more and more! Maybe after a time these stations will get the message when their viewer-ship decreases, do to the HD local newscasts on their competors station...It's all about viewers and "Ad " Money...
post #2613 of 3311
I am guessing since WJAC's newscasts have gone HD, that eventually the one they do for WWCP will go the same route much like the Channel 11 News on Fox 53 at 10.
post #2614 of 3311
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Originally Posted by JK77 View Post

I am guessing since WJAC's newscasts have gone HD, that eventually the one they do for WWCP will go the same route much like the Channel 11 News on Fox 53 at 10.

I turned Fox 8 News on last night and they weren't in HD, but I could tell that the graphics have been adjusted, so I think we will be seeing Fox 8 News in HD soon. Some of the morning updates during the Today Show weren't in HD either, so they are probably working out some minor glitches.
post #2615 of 3311
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Originally Posted by upzdayzm View Post

I do find myself watching local news on WTAE an WPXI more and more! Maybe after a time these stations will get the message when their viewer-ship decreases, do to the HD local newscasts on their competors station...It's all about viewers and "Ad " Money...

We can only hope. I know that WJAC will be the only local news I watch for the time being.
post #2616 of 3311
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Originally Posted by PANewsFan View Post

I turned Fox 8 News on last night and they weren't in HD, but I could tell that the graphics have been adjusted, so I think we will be seeing Fox 8 News in HD soon. Some of the morning updates during the Today Show weren't in HD either, so they are probably working out some minor glitches.

I think it may more complicated than you guys are thinking...first, WJAC would have to be able to transmit their HD signal to the WWCP plant...don't know if that's set up...also, I have my doubts about WWCP's ability to broadcast LOCAL HD programming.

So it might not be as quick as you might think!
post #2617 of 3311
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Originally Posted by DeanPSUpa View Post

I think it may more complicated than you guys are thinking...first, WJAC would have to be able to transmit their HD signal to the WWCP plant...don't know if that's set up...also, I have my doubts about WWCP's ability to broadcast LOCAL HD programming.

So it might not be as quick as you might think!

Unfortunately, I agree with you. If it it costs WWCP/WATM money, don't expect them to do it. They don't even bother to send out a quality signal.
post #2618 of 3311
I have been watching WJAC-DT the past few days and I am not sure their news is in 1080 HD. It looks to me more like they are still in SD but have expanded the picture to 16:9. Don't get me wrong, it looks very nice, but I don't think it is HD just yet. It is really obvious to me during the weather when the graphics appear pretty sharp but the on-camera talent looks fuzzy in comparison. If you get WTAE or WPXI in HD, do an A/B comparison with WJAC and you will see the difference. Perhaps this is the first step to going HD. Studio cameras will be next. And I wish WTAE would go 16:9 on their field reporting... it is so annoying going back and forth between the bars on the side and then 16:9 for the studio shots.
post #2619 of 3311
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

I did the same thing. I had just watched a DVD, and I wondered if someone else had played with the aspect ratio, so I cycled through them until I got to 16:9 and was pleasantly surprised.



They're cool like the Fonz. They don't have to make pronouncements. They wait for others to discuss their coolness.

For whatever reason self promotion has never been top of mind at WJAC-TV. That said, kudos to the gang at Old Hickory Lane.
post #2620 of 3311
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Originally Posted by RF Hog View Post

I have been watching WJAC-DT the past few days and I am not sure their news is in 1080 HD.

I didn't notice anything unexpected in picture quality. Although, there are some productions that are incredibly good at up-sampling. For an oranges-to-oranges comparison, WPXI would be the better comparison (same company, same format). I'll have to stare at it this evening.

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Did anyone else notice a small improvement in reception of WPSU after they turned off their analog? I usually pick it up on the back of my antenna (cause I'm lazy) and tolerate the occasional glitch. It's been perfect in that situation since they turned off the analog yesterday.
post #2621 of 3311
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Originally Posted by MeowMeow View Post

Did anyone else notice a small improvement in reception of WPSU after they turned off their analog?

I'll have to check tonight as I didn't get anything this afternoon when I checked. I have noticed an improvement on WPCB-DT since they shut down 40.
post #2622 of 3311
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Originally Posted by RF Hog View Post

I have been watching WJAC-DT the past few days and I am not sure their news is in 1080 HD. It looks to me more like they are still in SD but have expanded the picture to 16:9. Don't get me wrong, it looks very nice, but I don't think it is HD just yet. It is really obvious to me during the weather when the graphics appear pretty sharp but the on-camera talent looks fuzzy in comparison. If you get WTAE or WPXI in HD, do an A/B comparison with WJAC and you will see the difference. Perhaps this is the first step to going HD. Studio cameras will be next. And I wish WTAE would go 16:9 on their field reporting... it is so annoying going back and forth between the bars on the side and then 16:9 for the studio shots.

I just took my first look at WJAC's newscast and I concur that it looks like 16:9 SD. There's just not enough detail in there for it to be HD. The studio shots look slightly better than the on-location shots, but that may just be due to having nicer cameras in-studio.
post #2623 of 3311
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Originally Posted by RF Hog View Post

I have been watching WJAC-DT the past few days and I am not sure their news is in 1080 HD. It looks to me more like they are still in SD but have expanded the picture to 16:9. Don't get me wrong, it looks very nice, but I don't think it is HD just yet.

You know what? After reading this post, I compaired the picture quality between WJAC and WPXI and I don't think they are in HD either. That would explain why there was no mention of being in HD or no article on their website about it either. Still, it is a pretty big improvement.
post #2624 of 3311
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Originally Posted by PANewsFan View Post

You know what? After reading this post, I compaired the picture quality between WJAC and WPXI and I don't think they are in HD either. That would explain why there was no mention of being in HD or no article on their website about it either. Still, it is a pretty big improvement.

You know you guys may be right....man, is it tough to tell....the studio shots and the weather graphics are popping..so is their graphics and transition sweeps and pieces.....i think some of the dullness may be due to lighting issues at their studios

But you're right, i have had a glaring feeling that it wasn't quite as sharp as it should be if it's HD...

Would love to know if someone has an inside to WJAC to answer the question definitively...

Nevertheless, it's still 2000x more watchable that WTAJ's newcast visually!!!
post #2625 of 3311
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Originally Posted by DeanPSUpa View Post

You know you guys may be right....man, is it tough to tell.

Alternative explanation:

They are up-sampling their video to 1080i, and then doing the graphics and overlays in full HD.
post #2626 of 3311
Thread Starter 
Whatever WJAC is doing I'll give them credit for going to a 16:9 format for news. It looks nice and a lot of people won't be able to tell the difference between HD and upconverted 480p. A lot of bang for the buck.
post #2627 of 3311
I just noticed this on WJAC tonight and it didn't seem like HD to me either, just upscaling. However, I was wondering why the studio shots were in 16:9 while it almost seemed 50/50 that some field shots were in 16:9 and some where in 4:3. I thought that maybe the 4:3 shots were recorded a while ago, before the switch, but upscaling doesn't have much if anything to do with the camera it's recorded on, does it? Ala TBS HD upscaling episodes of Seinfeld from the 90's? Maybe I'm wrong.

My initial thought was that the 16:9 shots were in HD, but that perhaps the equipment they were using to film, encode, broadcast, whatever, etc. were "cheap" pieces of equipment. Or maybe the station hasn't transitioned completely yet. I dunno.
post #2628 of 3311
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Originally Posted by karmaghost View Post

I just noticed this on WJAC tonight and it didn't seem like HD to me either, just upscaling. However, I was wondering why the studio shots were in 16:9 while it almost seemed 50/50 that some field shots were in 16:9 and some where in 4:3. I thought that maybe the 4:3 shots were recorded a while ago, before the switch, but upscaling doesn't have much if anything to do with the camera it's recorded on, does it? Ala TBS HD upscaling episodes of Seinfeld from the 90's? Maybe I'm wrong.

My initial thought was that the 16:9 shots were in HD, but that perhaps the equipment they were using to film, encode, broadcast, whatever, etc. were "cheap" pieces of equipment. Or maybe the station hasn't transitioned completely yet. I dunno.

You're right, it's a case of transition in progress. I suspect that's why they've chosen a "soft" roll out of the widescreen format, rather than doing a promo blitz.
post #2629 of 3311
I emailed the director of engineering, Rob Abele, last night and received this email back from him today:

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Originally Posted by Rob Abele View Post

WJAC is presenting all local news telecasts in wide screen. All cameras & graphics, including the weather presentation, are native widescreen (no stretching or upscaling). The blue side bars are necessary when we're broadcasting archived material or a feed from another entity that is still using 4 by 3 ( not widescreen) cameras or other video.

Thanks for the comments. We welcome any more that you may have and hope you enjoy our widescreen news broadcasts.

I guess what he leaves out is my question about HD. So unless they are using cameras that shoot in 16:9 SD, then they do have HD cameras and are just not yet ready to broadcast the HD signal yet.
post #2630 of 3311
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Originally Posted by karmaghost View Post

I emailed the director of engineering, Rob Abele, last night and received this email back from him today:

I guess what he leaves out is my question about HD. So unless they are using cameras that shoot in 16:9 SD, then they do have HD cameras and are just not yet ready to broadcast the HD signal yet.

When last I spoke to a former colleague at WJAC, they were in the process of installing new HD studio cameras. The key factor is the lenses that are built to handle the 16:9 frame.
Conversion of the entire control room to HD is bound to take some time, especially since they have to do the installs around existing gear that's still in use.
Also, happy to see you at least got a reply from Rob. They have been keeping him rather busy.
post #2631 of 3311
Just curious...does anyone know where the ABB Headend is in the Clearfield area. I was curious to find the location where they receive the over-the-air local channels for that system...
post #2632 of 3311
Any one notice a drop in WPXI signal. The tv i have in the kitchen is not receiving it to day, but the big screen in the living room is coming in just fine....I thought maybe the switch from 19 to 11 may be testing?
post #2633 of 3311
Still coming in here at 9/10 bars on 48 and no change on 11.
post #2634 of 3311
Ok today...may have been the weather...Thanks JK
post #2635 of 3311
Is anyone else having reception problems with WTAJ-HD on Comcast in State College? It shows up as "This channel should be available shortly." on my cable box at channel 233. On my TV over the QAM tuner (119.1) the audio is mostly dropped out, the video is OK, though is seems to drop a frame occasionally (but not blocky like I'd expect).

Oh, and it was doing the same thing yesterday too, I think.
post #2636 of 3311
Has anyone noticed an increase in WTOV signal ? still can't get a bleep of anything since the switch-over...May be till fall till we get an increase in W
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post #2638 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Ken H View Post

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Many thanks!
post #2639 of 3311
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Originally Posted by upzdayzm View Post

Has anyone noticed an increase in WTOV signal ? still can't get a bleep of anything since the switch-over...May be till fall till we get an increase in W

Not an increase in signal, but this morning was probably the best tropo we've had in PA since the fall. I was finally able to lock both WTOV and WTRF with my 4228. This spring has just been no fun for DXing.
post #2640 of 3311
Real foggy morning,maybe that's the reason!
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