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post #2731 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Nokorola View Post

I saw it the night they didn't do it until after the first commercial break, I have a feeling the premise is to make it fit better on standard TVs like the one I have. That said, if they're going to mess with it at WTAJ, they need to make sure it doesn't look like crap.

Good point. If they are going to make it fit on standard TVs, the picture quality should be clearer. It really looks terrible on HDTVs, however, when I stretch my TV to widescreen it looks a little better. Thanks to DVR, I was able to record Up To The Minute on WTAJ-HD and the picture was shrunk just like on The Late Late Show. It used to be like that on The Early Show, however, I've noticed on the past few mornings when I have been flipping through the channels it was normal 4:3 and the picture was really clear.
post #2732 of 3311
I'm not sure what exactly WTAJ is doing lately, but I've noticed when I am watching the noontime news in HD (channel 710 on ABB), that I'll see the station kind of go blank for a half of a second, then the aspect changes. This often happens at about the same time of day, about 12:15 or so during the weather forecast. Why they're doing this, or what they're doing, I've no idea....

DGK
post #2733 of 3311
I also realized tonight when watching the 6PM news that the CBS promos they air during local news are often in the same aspect ratio as Up To The Minute and The Late Late Show, however, I don't think it is like this during any other time. Also, it isn't just a problem with WTAJ-HD because even on WTAJ in standard definition, the aspect ratio is the same. I'm really curious to know why this is.
post #2734 of 3311
Speaking of the Late Late Show, I'm really curious if CBS is planning to update the show to be 16x9 in the near future as it is one of only 2 late night shows to not be 16X9. (The other being the extremely late night Last Call With Carson Daily.) Not that late night TV needs to be 16x9 let alone HD.
post #2735 of 3311
In HDTV Programming "The "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson" is apparently scheduled to "go" to HD broadcasts in late August on CBS." http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1161527
post #2736 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Sammer View Post

In HDTV Programming "The "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson" is apparently scheduled to "go" to HD broadcasts in late August on CBS." http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1161527

Thank you, that's good to know. Hopefully after this happens it will also rectify the WTAJ resolution situation.
post #2737 of 3311
I know we are not supposed to sell things here.....but...

I just bought a winegard 7694p antenna that came with 50 ft rg59 cable. I have too many trees in the way and the antenna won't work for what I need. I know it's a very a good antenna. If anyone locally wants it with the cable (I know it's not rg6, but i have no use for it) I'll deliver it for $75.
post #2738 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Sammer View Post

In HDTV Programming "The "Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson" is apparently scheduled to "go" to HD broadcasts in late August on CBS." http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1161527

That's great news! Hopefully everything goes on schedule and as planned. It seems as though WTAJ has no problem airing HD shows such as Letterman and primetime shows in full HD, and the issue is only with Up To The Minute and The Late Late Show. Even some shows not in HD such as The Early Show and Big Brother are in normal 4:3.

Also, does anybody know when any of the local stations plan to start distributing syndicated programs in HD. I think WJAC will be the first to do so because they are already in 16:9 widescreen and HD studio cameras on the way. I don't know how involved the process of distributing HD syndicated programs are, but I hope we start to see some soon.
post #2739 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

New fill-in translators requested in Johnstown for WPCW (on channel 27) and KDKA (on channel 31).

- Trip

How is it that a station that moved to Pittsburgh...
http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-serv...DT1250016.html
...put a translator in the DMA it left, on the same RF channel (ch.27) as a station already serving the market?
post #2740 of 3311
Can't speak for how the channel number was chosen, but this was actually the purpose behind the "fill-in translator." It was to fill holes left in digital TV station coverage areas post-transition. Since WNPA covered Johnstown before but not after, it's eligible to have a fill-in translator.

- Trip
post #2741 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Can't speak for how the channel number was chosen, but this was actually the purpose behind the "fill-in translator." It was to fill holes left in digital TV station coverage areas post-transition. Since WNPA covered Johnstown before but not after, it's eligible to have a fill-in translator.

- Trip

15Kw seems a bit excessive for that purpose...

To me, it seems they have aspirations to serve 2 television markets. Considering they abandonded the J/A/SC market for greener pastures, they should stay in Pittsburgh.
post #2742 of 3311
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Originally Posted by 75ohms View Post

15Kw seems a bit excessive for that purpose...

To me, it seems they have aspirations to serve 2 television markets. Considering they abandoned the J/A/SC market for greener pastures, they should stay in Pittsburgh.

If you look at the proposed coverage map, the directional antenna pattern does protect WHVL-LD 29.1 (RF 27) in State College to a considerable extent, reducing the signal into the Johnstown area.

The bulk of the coverage area will be eastern Westmoreland County (clearly within the Pittsburgh DMA), as well as Somerset County (which although in the J-A-SC DMA, is considered "significantly viewed" re: Pittsburgh TV stations, and a county that could easily be moved into the Pittsburgh DMA.)

Had they really wanted to push a strong LD signal into Johnstown, there are far better antenna locations than the Jenner Township tower, that they already own.
post #2743 of 3311
Remember that the FCC required stations wanting fill-in translators to constrain coverage to within their analog and digital contours. Another tower site might not have been workable while still staying within that contour.

- Trip
post #2744 of 3311
Does anyone know what is going on with WJAC's RTN?

No matter if I watch it on ATSC or QAM, it is very choppy, mainly around commercials.

I mean most stations I have ever seen leave a nice transition to the commercials and back.

But RTN6, will be showing a commercial, sometimes not even finish the commercial, then suddenly go to the program, but now you just missed half the opening.

Other times, you will see half a commercial than another commercial will take over.

Does anyone know why all of that is happening? Seems kinda like sloppy work.
post #2745 of 3311
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Originally Posted by PA_MainyYak View Post

If you look at the proposed coverage map, the directional antenna pattern does protect WHVL-LD 29.1 (RF 27) in State College to a considerable extent, reducing the signal into the Johnstown area.

The 'protection' you mention is simply terrain blockage.

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Originally Posted by PA_MainyYak View Post

Had they really wanted to push a strong LD signal into Johnstown, there are far better antenna locations than the Jenner Township tower, that they already own.

It looks like their service contour already includes the city of Johnstown (even if it is the very 'cliff' edge). It really seems that some stations are using poor planning and bad engineering as an excuse to have multiple facilities. In essence, they can claim a 'hardship' and put translators anywhere they can, as a crutch. If they would have done things right to begin with, situations like this wouldn't exist. It's just a shame that the Feds panicked on 6/13/09 , and is allowing these kinds of things.

In the case of WPCW, you'll note they did gain ALOT more potential eyeballs in easten Ohio, northern WV, and most of western PA. In my opinion, it should be a trade-off for the "lost" analog service area. After all, they chose to move their transmitter to Pittsburgh.

The licensee is being overzealous, if you ask me...but you knew that already!
post #2746 of 3311
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Originally Posted by ZeroOneTwoThree View Post

Does anyone know what is going on with WJAC's RTN?

No matter if I watch it on ATSC or QAM, it is very choppy, mainly around commercials.

I mean most stations I have ever seen leave a nice transition to the commercials and back.

But RTN6, will be showing a commercial, sometimes not even finish the commercial, then suddenly go to the program, but now you just missed half the opening.

Other times, you will see half a commercial than another commercial will take over.

Does anyone know why all of that is happening? Seems kinda like sloppy work.

I think the problem is with the RTN/RTV network feed itself.

The same think is going on with WTOV's RTN (9.2) channel, and also WPXI's RTN (11.2) too.

Then again WPXI has played around with the RTN programming often running programs at different times than when they are shown on WTOV or WJAC. They also don't show some programs on the weekends like "Ellery Queen", "The Virginian", "Laredo", and "O'Hara, U.S. Treasury" for example.

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Also at the moment WTOV's station broadcast clock is running fast by at least an hour and their programming guide is devoid of any information. I'm thinking of firing off an email to the station and let them know about it.
post #2747 of 3311
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Originally Posted by SamVin View Post

I think the problem is with the RTN/RTV network feed itself.

The same think is going on with WTOV's RTN (9.2) channel, and also WPXI's RTN (11.2) too.

Then again WPXI has played around with the RTN programming often running programs at different times than when they are shown on WTOV or WJAC. They also don't show some programs on the weekends like "Ellery Queen", "The Virginian", "Laredo", and "O'Hara, U.S. Treasury" for example.

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Also at the moment WTOV's station broadcast clock is running fast by at least an hour and their programming guide is devoid of any information. I'm thinking of firing off an email to the station and let them know about it.

I'd wondered about that whole choppy commercial problem mentioned above, as well. It's irritating sometimes. At least now I know why it's happening!

DGK
post #2748 of 3311
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Originally Posted by DeeKaye07 View Post

I'd wondered about that whole choppy commercial problem mentioned above, as well. It's irritating sometimes. At least now I know why it's happening!

DGK

The feed must go down sometimes.

Sometimes I see the RTV advertisement just play over and over again with no show.

I've seen this at least twice.
post #2749 of 3311
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Originally Posted by ZeroOneTwoThree View Post

The feed must go down sometimes.

Sometimes I see the RTV advertisement just play over and over again with no show.

I've seen this at least twice.

Yeah, I saw it once about 2? weeks ago right during an intense Hardy Boys episode, and it was out then for a few hours.
post #2750 of 3311
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Originally Posted by Nokorola View Post

Yeah, I saw it once about 2? weeks ago right during an intense Hardy Boys episode, and it was out then for a few hours.

I believe that's the main one I am talking about.

I actually record the network with my TV Tuner card and I was recording Hardy Boys for my mother but instantly it messed up.

I even a few hours later completely missed Jack Benny which I wanted for myself.

Actually, I was really annoyed the one night, I was watching a good episode of It Takes a Thief, right when it gets good as ever, suddenly, no picture. I was like NO!!!!!!.
post #2751 of 3311
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Originally Posted by ZeroOneTwoThree View Post

The feed must go down sometimes.

Sometimes I see the RTV advertisement just play over and over again with no show.

I've seen this at least twice.

What a PITA that must have been. Someone must have fallen asleep at the switch!

DGK
post #2752 of 3311
I have not seen any other station do this so I'm kinda confused.

What is the point of having WJAC-HD and WJAC-SD?

As far as I can see, all ATSC TVs and Converter Boxes that I have seen
can simply play the HD version even if it's an SD TV.

So why not just get rid of SD and give RTV more bandwidth so it's not
always blurring?
post #2753 of 3311
WMAR (Baltimore ABC) does the same thing.
post #2754 of 3311
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Originally Posted by ZeroOneTwoThree View Post

I have not seen any other station do this so I'm kinda confused.

What is the point of having WJAC-HD and WJAC-SD?

As far as I can see, all ATSC TVs and Converter Boxes that I have seen
can simply play the HD version even if it's an SD TV.

So why not just get rid of SD and give RTV more bandwidth so it's not
always blurring?

It was done originally to accommodate cable TV operators whose equipment did not do center cut properly. WPGH and WPMY in Pittsburgh do the same thing, as does WATM, running ABC-HD on 23.1, ABC-SD on 23.2, and FOX-SD on 23.3. I would think that as cable operators gradually modernize their plants, the need to provide the SD feed will go away.
Switching between the RTN feeds of WJAC and WPXI really demonstrates how bit-starved the WJAC RTN channel is.
post #2755 of 3311
Any ABB folks having this problem?
Ch 715 (WPCW-HD) is replaced with the "Not Authorized" splash screen on both of my STBs. I did a full reboot and had tech support do their remote mojo. They claim it's only my boxes that are affected.
All other HD channels are running normally.
post #2756 of 3311
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Originally Posted by PA_MainyYak View Post

Any ABB folks having this problem?
Ch 715 (WPCW-HD) is replaced with the "Not Authorized" splash screen on both of my STBs. I did a full reboot and had tech support do their remote mojo. They claim it's only my boxes that are affected.
All other HD channels are running normally.

Odd...comes in fine for me.

DGK
post #2757 of 3311
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Originally Posted by PA_MainyYak View Post

WPGH and WPMY in Pittsburgh do the same thing, as does WATM, running ABC-HD on 23.1, ABC-SD on 23.2, and FOX-SD on 23.3.

WPGH's 53-2 has been gone for about a week now.
post #2758 of 3311
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Originally Posted by JK77 View Post

WPGH's 53-2 has been gone for about a week now.

Actually not. the SD channel is still there, but showing up as 43.2 due to PSIP issues, according to this entry on the Pittsburgh thread.
post #2759 of 3311
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Originally Posted by PA_MainyYak View Post

Actually not. the SD channel is still there, but showing up as 43.2 due to PSIP issues, according to this entry on the Pittsburgh thread.

No 43-2 nor 43-4 on my set nor converter boxes, and when I try to manually type them in, they all revert to 53-1.
post #2760 of 3311
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Originally Posted by JK77 View Post

No 43-2 nor 43-4 on my set nor converter boxes, and when I try to manually type them in, they all revert to 53-1.

What does TSReader say about it?

- Trip
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