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post #61 of 945
Here's Sceptre next to my good old Princeton Senergy 15".
LL
post #62 of 945
A scene from Intolerable Cruelty. Again, the photo cannot really deliver the excellent flesh tone and CR of the live viewing.
LL
post #63 of 945
Desktop 1280x768. Because of autofocus I guess, the whole picture looks dark, perhaps the same shots in daylight will be more impressive.

And again, I apologize for poor quality of photos, have to play a little more with the camera for better results.
LL
post #64 of 945
TAURUS--Thank you for taking the time to post pictures! All the prospective buyers appreciate it. Please give us a rundown on all inputs and resolutions that you can. Any other pics are also appreciated...
post #65 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by TauRus
A scene from Intolerable Cruelty. Again, the photo cannot really deliver the excellent flesh tone and CR of the live viewing.
Wow. Hows does SD look?
post #66 of 945
Scott, you are welcome. I will post a few more pics as I take them. In a couple of days I will move the panel downstairs to my so called Home Theater There I will calibrate the display with DVE and will take then more shots.
For now, a couple more shots.

Remote. The funny thing about it that it has a sliding door. When you pull it open you only see a flat grey surface. My first reaction was ...WOW, they have a touch pad built in here .. Later though, I found out that this place is reserved for teletext menus and controls (available on European models only).
LL
post #67 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by JohnFR
Wow. Hows does SD look?
Well, DVD is SD right? But I guess you meant regular cable. I have not yet connected this display to the cable box, will do it in a couple of days when I move my RPTV out of there.

Ok, now. lets take a look at the menu buttons on the top right side of the display. The buttons read (left to right): MENU; CH/ADJ; VOL/ADJ; SOURCE.
Naturally all these buttons are duplicated on the remote.
LL
post #68 of 945
Inputs (left side of display, buttons read top to bottom):
- PC RGB (Analog)
- DVI (HDCP) - supports both PC and HDCP DVI
- PC Audio Input (minijack)
- RS-232
- Audio Out (L/R)
- Subwoofer Out
LL
post #69 of 945
Inputs (right side of rear panel, buttons read top to bottom):
- Y,Pb,Pr - two sets of component video inputs
- Audio In (L/R) - two sets of stereo audio in
- S-Video In / Audio In (L/R)
- Composite Video In /Audio In (L/R)

Also, there is a separate TV tuner area for Cable antenna in (below the sets of inputs above).
LL
post #70 of 945
TauRus,

Thanks for taking the pictures for the others. It's really appreciated. :) If you don't mind, please post your DVE settings when you get to do your calibration. I'm sure people would be happy to use them (me included). :)

BTW, have you played with the audio a little bit? There's a surround mode, but it sounds pretty awful (using the Cable box as an input). Just curious...

-eric
post #71 of 945
TauRus, eric, and other Sceptre owners,

Most LCD TV's I have seen have very little to no glare (essential for my situation). Can you confirm that to also be the case with the Sceptre?

Thanks to all for your help.
post #72 of 945
Howdy---very interested in how cable looks on this when you get the chance. Thanks.
post #73 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by Duane
TauRus, eric, and other Sceptre owners,

Most LCD TV's I have seen have very little to no glare (essential for my situation). Can you confirm that to also be the case with the Sceptre?

Thanks to all for your help.
Duane, I can confirm there is no glare to speak of on this display.
post #74 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by ericjut
TauRus,

Thanks for taking the pictures for the others. It's really appreciated. :) If you don't mind, please post your DVE settings when you get to do your calibration. I'm sure people would be happy to use them (me included). :)

BTW, have you played with the audio a little bit? There's a surround mode, but it sounds pretty awful (using the Cable box as an input). Just curious...

-eric
Eric, I certainly will. Though at this point I am a little concerned with the number of options we can tweak on this display. As you said before, the menu gives us pretty limited options. I wonder if there is a service menu here and how to access it.

As for audio, I have not connected the PC audio to the display yet. Will try it today.
post #75 of 945
Thanks TauRus.

BTW, that PC Audio plug kinda threw me off. At first, I didn't see it and I was afraid that we wouldn't be able to plug in sound for DVI and VGA. I was glad to discover that little "In" mini-jack. :) I've never seen an audio input on a TV like that.

-eric
post #76 of 945
This PC Audio minijack is just an option, as I understand it. Depending on the cables you have, you can send the PC audio either to this minijack or regular RCA L/R connectors.
I just connected PC Audio through minijack and played a few MP3s, CDs and a DVD movie clips. When I listened through the two integrated speakers only, then the sound was not good. They more or less handle the mid spectrum and some Hi freqiuences, but are not capable of almost any bass. If you have to listen to movie of music through these speakers, you MUST use a sub (there is a sub out from the display). Then, the overall impression will be more favourable. Without a sub, audio gets easily distorted as you turn the volume higher. THe speakers clip easily.
As for the surround mode, I toggled it on and off, and the only thing it did was to widen the stereo sound field, but it is nothing like a pseudo-5.1 system.
But afterall, most people will use it in a home theater setup where the sound will be processed and delivered through external receiver/speakers. Then this speaker deficiency will not be relevant at all.
post #77 of 945
As I said before, the only gripe about this display so far is the extremely limited menu controls. I wanted to share with you the menu controls. I have not connected this display through component or any other analog video mode so far. There is a chance that other additional menus become available when feeding analog video source, as how it works with my Princeton LCD.
I will verify that later. For now, let's see the very limited controls available when this display is connected to my PC via DVI.
The first screen shot shows display controls and the only two parameters that are accessible are Brightness and Contrast.
This concerns me a lot since I was planning to calibrate the display with DVE, but with so limited control over the picture, I am not sure how I will do it. Unless, additional menus will become available when I connect it via component video cables.
LL
post #78 of 945
Now, the audio control menus.
LL
post #79 of 945
And the last OSD screen - Miscellaneous controls.

So, the question is - how do I and other owners can access the service menus? Any ISF calibrator's tip will be HIGHLY appreciated.
LL
post #80 of 945
Thread Starter 
Hi,
I got the panel yesterday. This may be a simple question, but I want to optimise the display for my PC so the 16:9 shape of the sceptre doesn't cause any distortion while using it as a PC monitor. My video card is Geforce4 Ti4200. I unchecked the option under advanced "hide modes that this monitor may not display". I don't see a resolution option that is 16:9. Or is it that the video card needs to support a 16:9 monitor? W-xga is it?
Any tips appreciated. Please post to this thread.
post #81 of 945
Hello Mark

Wide XGA is usually available in the menu of the monitor, not the PC (I have not seen this particular display)
post #82 of 945
Mark Burnstein,
The specs claim the res of the Sceptre is 1280x768. That's what
TauRus used and the desktop looked ok based on his screen shots.

Also, TauRus, DVDs are ED, not SD.

larry
post #83 of 945
Damn. I was all ready to order a Sceptre from Costco.com when I discovered that they do not deliver outside of the U.S. (I reside in Canada).

I called the local Costco warehouse to see if they have the Sceptre, or anything similar in styock, which they don't.

Oddly enough, their website ststes that I could return the LCD to any Costco warehouse in the world (my initial concern), they just won't deliver ouside the 'States. :rolleyes:

Oh, well. I guess I'll keep waiting for the Viewsonic (Ingram is expecting them to arrive on the 15th).
post #84 of 945
I too just received my Sceptre. I am going in a completly different direction. This is my bedroom TV currently connected to progressive scan DVD and standard (non-digital) cable. So far I have been very pleased with the set. Setup was a breeze - I was up and running in just a few minutes. I am happy with picture quality - although I need to calibrate with Avia. Came out of the box in tourch mode. Picture quality is definately accpetable.

There are different menu settings for different inputs. Also, the different numbers 'stick' for my cable and DVD inputs.

Does anyone know what the different proportional settings mean - wide, fill all, etc. I am looking for the stretch mode that keeps the center regular size and stretches the edges. The manual identifies the different settings but does not really describe them. My only complaint so far is the thin-ness of the documentation. Also accessory bag with cables, batteries etc. opened during shipping, so cables etc. were thrown about. I was concerned about ding-ing the screen, but all was well. (Screen was protected.)

All in all I am pleased. I can't quite believe I made this size purchase sight unseen - although with Costco there is little risk.
post #85 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by mburnstein
Hi,
I got the panel yesterday. This may be a simple question, but I want to optimise the display for my PC so the 16:9 shape of the sceptre doesn't cause any distortion while using it as a PC monitor. My video card is Geforce4 Ti4200. I unchecked the option under advanced "hide modes that this monitor may not display". I don't see a resolution option that is 16:9. Or is it that the video card needs to support a 16:9 monitor? W-xga is it?
Any tips appreciated. Please post to this thread.
Mburstein, first of all, congratulations, bro! In my case when I plugged this LCD to the PC for the first time the picture was slightly distorted because the resolution was not WXGA (16x9). I went to the display properties and selected 1280x768 resolution there. The max supported resolution is 1280x1024 but I preferred the native resolution for a clearer picture. You should be able to do the same on your PC. Play with the drivers a little more. If our video card does not support this resolution, well, perhaps its time to upgrade There are many cards that support this resolution. See the screen shot.
In my opinion this has to be done on the PC side, not on the display side to avoid unnecessary processing and stretching of the picture.

I have to say that although I did not purchase this display as a PC monitor and it will eventually go to serve as a TV only, I am starting to get used to this huge baby. Of course for a PC monitor higher resolutions would be desirable, but even 1280x768 provides clear text and is comfortable for viewing upclose.
LL
post #86 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by PooperScooper
Mark Burnstein,
The specs claim the res of the Sceptre is 1280x768. That's what
TauRus used and the desktop looked ok based on his screen shots.

Also, TauRus, DVDs are ED, not SD.

larry
PooperScooper, I always thought that SD (standard definition) is in simple terms 480i (interlaced), an ED (enhanced definition) is 480p (progressive). DVDs are natively 480i, therfore they are SD. Its true that after deinterlacing they turn into ED, and I quite forgot for a second that by default everything in PC world is progressive :) So, thank you for correcting me.
post #87 of 945
I want to buy the sceptre for my parents so they can watch tv in their bedroom. My question is how easy would it be to wall mount this and what type of wall mount should I get? I was wondering if the people who already received the Sceptre from Costco can answer this.

On another note, does Costco refund shipping costs as well? Just curious. I guess my hesitation is the $70 I'll lose if my parents don't like it.

Thanks!
post #88 of 945
Quote:
Originally posted by TauRus
Inputs (left side of display, buttons read top to bottom):
- PC RGB (Analog)
- DVI (HDCP) - supports both PC and HDCP DVI
- PC Audio Input (minijack)
- RS-232
- Audio Out (L/R)
- Subwoofer Out
If you have some spare time, I would like to see how the PIP and POP work. My wife is very interested in this type of thing so she can surf the web while I watch a SD baseball game/

thanks!
post #89 of 945
I am a perfect example of people who only look in the manuals if there is a problem ..:)
I was wining earlier about limited menu controls on this Sceptre LCD. Untila few minutes ago I finally opened the manual ... shame on me ..there is a host of advanced controls that would be more than sufficient to do a proper calibration of this display, so no service menu is necessary. Please disregard my earlier ramblings on this matter. I will report back as I do the calibration.
post #90 of 945
edhady,

It is wall-mountable, but the information about purchasing it is definitely lacking. This information below is the only information about the wall mount frame I could find in the documentation:

"1. The frame and screws are not contained in the specification. Please purchase the frame and screws outside.
2. Please use the stadard frame. Be sure the frame can bear more than 80 kg."

?!

There's also a picture that shows how the holes are set on the "frame". They're basically 6 screws forming a rectangle of 20 cm (W) X 10 cm (H). All the screws are 10 cm apart, like this (Sorry, I don't have a scanner):

X X X

X X X

Maybe that's a standard ISO setup? Anybody here knows?

Also, I would be very surprised if Costco would reimburse s/h. It's already nice that we can return it for full reimbursement no questions asked, I personally think we shouldn't push our luck. :)

-eric
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