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post #61 of 2828
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Originally posted by htwaits
Take your DVD player in and hook have them hook it up. Don't forget to bring your own DVI cable. Sometimes big Mitsubishi dealers (and others) are clueless about DVI or HDMI.

When I'm close to buying...I'll probably find a store with both this TV and the JVC DILA and take my my Momitsu in. I'm just not going to go thru the hassle now.
post #62 of 2828
Thread Starter 
You had better get an HDMI adapter as well
post #63 of 2828
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Originally posted by Auditor55
What street is the Sunnyvale Anderson located on, I want to go and check it out?

On Stevens Creek, at Lawrence Expy, NE corner.
Post your thoughts please.
post #64 of 2828
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Originally posted by QuentinH
The screen (see the bottom of my review) stinks. It's glossy and very reflective. Hopefully, the anti-glare is tons better.

The overall build is very sexy. Good looking set. And the bezel on the screen is not thin...it's about 1" wide. The screen is also removable, but if you remove it, there will be a "groove" visible on both sides of the set.

Assuming the removable screen design is similar to past CRT models, you replace the clips after removing the screen. Therefore the "groove" is not visible. The beauty of the Mits design is that the screen can be removed and reattached so easily. This way you can put the screen on when there are bad kids around (like I do). The best PQ is achieved without the glare screen.
post #65 of 2828
I actually saw the WD52525 tonight and was quite impressed with the black levels and overall picture quality. I did notice however that the protective screen is too reflective for my needs and am waiting to check out the WD52725.

I have a Sony 50 inch LCD for now (just bought it a few days ago) but waiting to hear back from the dealer on the release of the Medallion series with the non reflective screen.

This may be the set I have been waiting for.....
post #66 of 2828
Well I spent almost 2 hours with the 52525 tonight. It was quite pleasurable.

I can agree with most of QuentinH's review. The big difference though would be the SDTV viewing. I was comparing this tv in house to a 50" GWIII LCD RPT, a 42" ED Panny Plasma, the 50" Panny LCD RPT & a Mitsu CRT RPT.

In my case the older Mitsu was the only one of the bunch that I would say was unwatchable for SDTV, while the rest were fine, certainly not as good as my current boob tube, a Toshiba CN36Z71 but certainly not unwatchable in my eyes.

Why is this? You folks can probably guess better then I. Perhaps the lens' were in dire need of calibration? Regardless of the other four, the Mitsu DLP was still the best in my eyes and this is "out of the box" setting wise. Matter of fact when we moved on to HDTV and finally DVD, it always looked best to me with the Sony second and the Pannys lacking. I then went into the settings of the Mitsu and starting playing. I liked the Netcommand and tuning options & am sure that a weekend with an Avia disc would be most rewarding and what tv isn't that the case with?

I should mention that all the tv's were hooked up with Component cables & were using a DirectTV feed. I never saw any rainbows or dithering but I'm sure I'm not the videophile alot of you are. That said I've never taken any of my past audio/video purchases lightly. I only wish I could have it and the HLP right next to each other to directly compare them as I don't remember really noticing them on it either. Maybe the slightest of rainbow. The contrast and blacks all looked great. I wasn't having an issue with screen glare but the showroom wasn't a typical bright lit one a la Best Buy etc. either. Besides, I just ordered some nice new dark blue blinds for the cave...erm...uh, I mean living room, last week.

I should state that my new tv priorities might differ from most of you, not sure. It will see a lot of SDTV with a smattering of HDTV. DVDs will be the least viewed medium and it must be a great monitor for gaming, both console & PC. To that end tvs with great connectivity are paramount to me. This one has that;
  • 2 - RF inputs
  • 1 - Cablecard slot
  • 1 - Compostite
  • 3 - S-Video
  • 2 - Component
  • 1 - DTV
  • 1 - VGA
  • 3 - Firewire
  • 1 - HDMI
  • 4 or 5 - Memory card slots of various sizes

I luv that!

QuentinH mentioned that those of you with HLN's won't be blown away with this set. Hell, I'm not even blown away with it compared to my Toshiba. Least not in the this tv looks $3000 better then my tube way. None of the current crop of HDTVs do that for me. Yet I know in time it will prove it's true worth. More subjectively would be the design appearance of the set. I really like the Mitsu & the Sammy. Both are very handsome IMO and the lower mounted speakers cannot be ignored. The Sony isn't at all appealing to my eyes while the Panny is downright awful looking. This will be a BIG piece of furniture in my apt. and silver painted plastic...you can keep it!

So the tv performed perfectly fine to me, how about the salesman then? Having worked in retail myself for the better part of the last 17 years, this can make or break it for myself. I can't stand pushy, arrogant, sycophantic salespeople who DON'T LISTEN TO ME or answer my questions honestly.

I'm happy to say this most definitely wasn't the case for me. He left me alone with the tv plenty. We learned about it together. He asked me questions & valued my opinion enough to ask for it when talking to other customers. He liked an analogy I made about bulb replacement (which by the way is covered for the first year by Mitsubishi) so much, he asked if he could use it with future customers.

In other words, he showed me respect. I cannot underestimate how important that is to me when making a purchase or future ones of course. So no surprise after tonight I'm leaning strongly towards this tv. I value Mitsubishi's reputation for quality. My first tv was a Mitsu and I never had a problem with it or my two subsequent Toshibas. It didn't hurt that I was offered very nice deal that in effect just about nullifies the price advantage the 50" HLP had either.

So tomorrow I'm going back out to look at the Sammys again & then back down to see the Mitsu, this time with my Xbox in tow. The final test if you will. Today one of my co-workers confirmed that they would by my Toshiba & the entertainment center it's in so it's time to make a deal!

Of course I'll keep you all appraised for what it's worth.
post #67 of 2828
If anyone goes to a Mits dealer please ask if the Medallion 725 series has a black cloth or plastic speaker cover. I hope it is not cloth! Looking forward to more sightings and opinions from the forum on the new Mits DLP's...Thanks....Joe V.
post #68 of 2828
If you're a heavy vid gamer (Reynard...this is for you), then I would think the HD2+ is the perfect chip for you.

With deep blacks and high contrast, this will really add some extra ooomph to your gaming experience.
post #69 of 2828
Thread Starter 
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If anyone goes to a Mits dealer please ask if the Medallion 725 series has a black cloth or plastic speaker cover. I hope it is not cloth!

Read this thread, it's been covered.
post #70 of 2828
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Originally posted by Patrick TX
Read this thread, it's been covered.

You got to be kidding CLOTH what a let down almost as bad as side speakers. I have to see these Mits and make my own conclusion as to stay with the HLP6163 power buy or pay the extra for the Mits. Really like the Medallion 725 62" looks good in the brochure, just need to see it in person.

Joe V.
post #71 of 2828
This tread has been added to the "Popular Tread" Post.
post #72 of 2828
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Originally posted by jwv651
You got to be kidding CLOTH what a let down almost as bad as side speakers. I have to see these Mits and make my own conclusion as to stay with the HLP6163 power buy or pay the extra for the Mits. Really like the Medallion 725 62" looks good in the brochure, just need to see it in person.

Joe V.

Joe,
what is your concern with the speaker cover material???
post #73 of 2828
Thread Starter 
My only concern is the way that black cloth collects dust. If I had Cats, I would be concerned as well. Cloth on TV's is rather throwback. But hey, retro is in.
post #74 of 2828
Cloth does look like a throw back and yes they do collect dust on my Mits 50" just would like the covers to look similar to the outer edge of the screen. I can live with it if the PQ is awesome. I plan on buying a Mits 725 62" if it looks better than the HD3 Samsung. We will see!

Joe V.
post #75 of 2828
Kipp Jones,
Shouldn't we be getting ready for the Cubs Sox game!

Joe V.
post #76 of 2828
Our local Mitsubishi Dealer will have the new 525 by mid-July as I have heard... If the screen is really that bad, I will go for the 52" 725... but I think the 525 would be more than suitable for my needs
post #77 of 2828
Great info on that review...just what I've been waiting for! I'm not in a hurry to buy until football season is here, so I can hold off and see how all these new sets shake out.

One thing... does the Mits have room on top for a center channel speaker? Some of these new DLP's I have seen coming out don't leave room for anything at all up there. From what I understand, the HD2+ Sammy's will have a "shelf" built in. If picture quality is equal, the shelf set may win out.

I can't wait to hit Sound Advice when they have all these DLP's side-by-side!
post #78 of 2828
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Originally posted by BearGator56
One thing... does the Mits have room on top for a center channel speaker? Some of these new DLP's I have seen coming out don't leave room for anything at all up there. From what I understand, the HD2+ Sammy's will have a "shelf" built in. If picture quality is equal, the shelf set may win out.

My impression is that the side profile of the 525 is the similar to the HLPxx63 sets. There is really no room for a center speaker.

Also the 52" 525 is almost the same width as the 56" HLP5677 with the HD2+ chip.
post #79 of 2828
Sure you can mount a speaker on top of it, providing the speaker has a depth of about...say...2". The set's profile is the classic asymmetrical pyramid tilted 90 degrees back that most DLPs are.

I went out again today to look at the HLP5063 & WD-52525 one more time. Hooked my Xbox up to both & yummy, yummy! This was as close as I've had to a "wow" factor yet when looking at HDTVs. Both displays were awesome to my eyes. Noticebly better then my CRT via Component cables at home (which in itself blows most of my gaming friends' displays away...they're really going to hate me now!) I'd give the nod to Quentin in that the Mitsu seemed to have a little more oomph in this dept.

Granted, again these weren't direct side by side comparisons and the viewing enviroment is definitely better at the Mitsu store. That said I'd also say that I think the HLP looks nicer to me as far as HDTV is concerned. To my well worn CRT eyes it does look a tad smoother & pleasing.

Regardless, as far as overall PQ goes with these two sets for me, it's a coin toss. That said, I bought the 52525. As I intoned before, my reasons were more to do with the design, features, dealer exp., branding & price.

I'm a happy camper!

Won't be taking delivery of it for a week or two. Still need to either make a new stand or break down and buy the IKEA one. Really the only one I like that isn't at least a grand but it's far from perfect. Plus I need to unload my Toshiba on my coworker & that takes some scheduling etc. This is when the real patience test begins.
post #80 of 2828
Congrats, Reynard! I'm sure your friends will be jealous...particularly when Halo 2 comes out this Xmas!

I'm going to be waiting about a month...so, please keep up the reports as you view and re-view it. It's still in my final four.
post #81 of 2828
Heh, no kidding. We already play Halo here every other Friday night. I really can't wait to see some of my Line of Contact replays on the new set. That supports 720p widescreen.

I'll most definitely keep you all appraised of life with the 525 once it arrives. Thanks to the stand thread here, I just discovered some better IKEA options as far as furniture is concerned. Stuff I didn't even know existed do to my lack of skill in navigating their site originally. D'oh!
post #82 of 2828
I sure wish some of these designers would think about home theatre. To me, not having a place to put the center channel is a sin!

If none of 'em have it, trying to find a rack to put all of my equiptment AND a center channel becomes a chore. Might have to try out my woodworking skills and build my own. TV probably won't be very level, though!
post #83 of 2828
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Originally posted by jwv651
Kipp Jones,
Shouldn't we be getting ready for the Cubs Sox game!

Joe V.


What about A's v. Giants! 2 team markets are great.
post #84 of 2828
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Originally posted by Auditor55
What about A's v. Giants! 2 team markets are great.

Just wish I had a shinny new HDTV to watch them on!
post #85 of 2828
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Originally posted by Reynard
Sure you can mount a speaker on top of it, providing the speaker has a depth of about...say...2". The set's profile is the classic asymmetrical pyramid tilted 90 degrees back that most DLPs are.

I went out again today to look at the HLP5063 & WD-52525 one more time. Hooked my Xbox up to both & yummy, yummy! This was as close as I've had to a "wow" factor yet when looking at HDTVs. Both displays were awesome to my eyes. Noticebly better then my CRT via Component cables at home (which in itself blows most of my gaming friends' displays away...they're really going to hate me now!) I'd give the nod to Quentin in that the Mitsu seemed to have a little more oomph in this dept.

Granted, again these weren't direct side by side comparisons and the viewing enviroment is definitely better at the Mitsu store. That said I'd also say that I think the HLP looks nicer to me as far as HDTV is concerned. To my well worn CRT eyes it does look a tad smoother & pleasing.

Regardless, as far as overall PQ goes with these two sets for me, it's a coin toss. That said, I bought the 52525. As I intoned before, my reasons were more to do with the design, features, dealer exp., branding & price.

I'm a happy camper!

Won't be taking delivery of it for a week or two. Still need to either make a new stand or break down and buy the IKEA one. Really the only one I like that isn't at least a grand but it's far from perfect. Plus I need to unload my Toshiba on my coworker & that takes some scheduling etc. This is when the real patience test begins.


If Mits don't look a thousands dollars better than the 50 inch HLP, I don't know how you can justify the purchase. The Mits I understand retails at about 4k, not including tax, and the 50 inch Sammy through the PowerBuy is about $2,900.

I was set to go check out the Mits DLP until my car broke down, hopefully I will get a chance to see it Monday night. I prefer to purchase a Mits over a Sammy, but not a thousand dollars+ more, the Mits seem to be a budget buster for me.
post #86 of 2828
Auditor55

I am in the boat, I prefer the Mits over Samsung for build quality, Just need to see one and if the PQ isn't all that much better, then I will complete my order for Sammy 6163 when the time comes. Just wish I could get this over real soon.

Joe V.
post #87 of 2828
I think it would be fair to compare the Mits DLP with Samsung's upcoming 77 series HD2+ DLPs in terms of overall functionality rather than the samsung 63 series... The Mitsubishi DLP adds a Tuner, 3 firewire inputs, and cablecard... Now if those aren't desired and the PQ really isn't that much better than the HD3, then I guess it is your call
post #88 of 2828
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Originally posted by UMD_Terp
I think it would be fair to compare the Mits DLP with Samsung's upcoming 77 series HD2+ DLPs in terms of overall functionality rather than the samsung 63 series... The Mitsubishi DLP adds a Tuner, 3 firewire inputs, and cablecard... Now if those aren't desired and the PQ really isn't that much better than the HD3, then I guess it is your call


When it comes to features, no doubt the Mits kicks serious tail, but isn't picture quality the first criteria in picking a set? Those features the Mits offer are most desirable, particularly by me, but at what cost? My biggest concern with Sammy is not PQ, I have seen the HLP's and they really look good, but Sammy DLP's seem to be having some serious reliability problems, I hope its not the same with Mits.
post #89 of 2828
I also wish the Mits had 2 digital inputs like the Samsung, to use with my Dish Sat HD 811 and soon to be had Samsung HD-941. PQ will make my decision as to which one I purchased regardless of price. I hope to keep for 6-10 years. I only watch SD, DVD and HDTV would not need for Gaming. I was also interested in the JVC D-ila but have decided Mits 725 62" vs Samsung HLP6163. Regardless, I will have a new HDTV by the first week of Sept.

Joe V.
post #90 of 2828
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Originally posted by Auditor55
If Mits don't look a thousands dollars better than the 50 inch HLP, I don't know how you can justify the purchase. The Mits I understand retails at about 4k, not including tax, and the 50 inch Sammy through the PowerBuy is about $2,900.

Read my posts again if you want to understand why I made my decision. I think it's pretty clear. Your criteria of picture quality worth expressed in dollars doesn't work for me as I even said that none of these tvs looks $3000 better then my direct view.

The WD-52525 retails for $3799. The HLP5063 for $3499. Like I said, I got a very nice deal & if you factor in my wanting to buy from a local dealer as opposed to mail order... there really were no price difference issues at all.
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