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post #241 of 3734
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Originally posted by 1MaNArmY
If I am picking up the analog channel of FOX why isn't the HD channel comming in? What is the FOX-HD channel anyway 13-1 or 13-2? On all the other local channels you get the regular analog channel in edition to the HD channels, I figured the HD channel would have come up on the scan.
Should I make some minor adjustments to the antenna and point it more to the southeast?

it's not unusual that you're getting analog fox but not digital. while it's true that they're broadcasting from the same position, fox digital is such low power that i doubt you'll be able to receive it no matter what you do. i'm only getting 50% from fox digital, & i'm in slc, only 21 miles from the towers. unfortunately, you may have to wait until they boost their signal.

i think the fox hd channel is 13-2.
post #242 of 3734
what was wrong w/ leno last night? the sound was cutting in & out constantly. it sounded like someone was rapidly turning the mute on my receiver on & off. also, my receiver display kept flashing between stereo & dd. during the commercials the sound was fine.
post #243 of 3734
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On another note it is also important to remember that when re-aiming your antenna make only small adjustments at a time and then wait a few seconds to check the signal before moving again. The digital signals take longer to get from the tower to you antenna so you need to give the receiver time to try to get the signal before moving again.

thanks for your input everyone, so just because I'm picking up the analog channel I am not necessarily as close as I thought I was. Well I will try and make some minor adjustments using bbartschi suggestions prior to Sunday NFL games and see if I'm capable of picking up FOX-HD. Actually it took me a while to realize that I was able to pick up the analog channel so thus far I am very pleased with my results. In the mean time I have FOX-EAST and WEST 388-389 via satellite with a DVI-input and the reception is much improved over my previous S-Video connection on my TIVO.

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Trying to receive channel 13 has been like my White Whale and has consumed a lot of time and energy on my part (along with driving my wife crazy). I am jealous of those of you that are able to get 13 with no problem other that pointing you antenna at the tower. I am interested to see your results 1MaNArmY. Please bear in mind that I am definitely not a professional and have only gained my experience by pure trial and error.

I can relate to that statement as my wife seems to believe that I am obsessed with the OTA and I vehemently deny it!
post #244 of 3734
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Originally posted by HiHoStevo
Okay guys......... I am actually in Cedar Hills trying to get the new house up and running...........

1- I checked with antennaweb and they did not give me any suggestions for an antenna...?? just a list of probable stations I could receive.

So I would like to start out trying an boosted attic antenna. However, I need a suggestion for a good in attic antenna for both analog and digital reception. Also, any good places to buy this antenna locally?

2- A suggestion or recommendation for some "great" Home Theater folks here in Utah Valley (read= competent and ++customer service).

Thanks for your support,

Steve

1- I live in Cedar Hills. I don't have a digital TV yet, but I can tell you that the analog reception in most of Cedar Hills is very poor. Point of the mountain is between us and Farnsworth Peak, where the transmitters are. So unless you're up on the hill in the Canyon Heights development, I doubt you'll be able to get a good digital signal over the air. I and nearly all of my neighbors have satellite systems. In the last few months Comcast has become available through most of Cedar Hills, so that is another option.

2- I suggest you talk to the people at Reference Audio in Orem. I know a couple of people who have had home theater systems configured and installed by Reference Audio, and they were very pleased both by the systems and by the service they received.

Welcome to Cedar Hills.
post #245 of 3734
bradvoy.........

Thank you so much for your comments!!

As a matter of fact I am in the Canon Heights development (how did you know....hmmm).

I do not have a digital TV with me at the moment... mine is an HD capable "front projector" that is set up in my theater in Las Vegas. The home in Vegas is currently up for sale and I have not disassembled the Home Theater yet (I was kind of hoping it might help sell the house!).

However, I am trying to get things wired up so the house will be ready when I am able to move the projector up.

Amazingly enough this house was set up a "little different." It does not have phone or network jacks where you would expect them... but does have them in some "unique" places.

So I need to get a phone jack behind the entertainment center in the basement on a wall with only power... I do remember buying a pair of devices a couple of years ago that were supposed to transmit a phone signal between them... so I guess I will dig them out and see if they will allow my old ReplayTV unit to contact the mothership to download the local guide.

From what I understand Comcast cable is not even installed in the Canyon Heights subdivision... so that is not an option for me. Looks like it is OTA and/or Satellite for this home. We have 13HD stations on cable down in Las Vegas, so I was getting pretty excited about HD... may have to give VOOM some thought.

Once again, thanks for the referral to Reference Audio... I will drive over to see them when I get back from the trip I have to leave on tomorrow. Good Customer Service is something to be "cherished" these days.

Steve
post #246 of 3734
The engineering department at KUWB just tested the Dolby E delivery system from The WB Network for the 5.1 audio delivery and everything is working fine. The broadcast premire of "Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring" will be Sunday night November 7 at 7:00 PM MT in 1080i HD with Dolby 5.1 surround. You might catch us doing on-air testing in the middle of the night, but it won't be LOTR video and audio though.

You can't get KUWB-HD on cable, you can only receive it FREE over the air, (only because the local cable company won't carry KUWB-HD at this time.)

www.myfreehdtv.org
post #247 of 3734
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Originally posted by acmetvrick
The broadcast premire of "Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring" will be Sunday night November 7 at 7:00 PM MT in 1080i HD with Dolby 5.1 surround.

awwwww, yeeaahh! i'm looking forward to that!

titantv only lists this broadcast as 2 hours long. is it supposed to be shown in multiple parts?
post #248 of 3734
The Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring will be presented in two parts. Part 1 Sunday Night, Part 2 on Monday night. We have been having problems with our Monday night SD & HD satellite feed due to some form of interference that we are trying to track down, it happens every Monday night from 7:20ish to 7:35ish, but it is knocking out our SD and HD satellite feeds. Has been driving us nuts, it's too short of an event to get a good fix on it.
post #249 of 3734
(SIGH) Again...

No HD with KTVX (ABC) on Wednesday's 10/27 broadcast of "LOST." It's probably just ANOTHER time the "switch" was not "flipped." I don't know how many times I am forced to watch an HD show in SD until the local guys decide to flip the switch. It is getting VERY annoying. We need more competent local technicians.
post #250 of 3734
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Originally posted by ricwhite
(SIGH) Again...

No HD with KTVX (ABC) on Wednesday's 10/27 broadcast of "LOST."

I called at about 7:05 to complain. I asked the news guy to transfer me to engineering and he asked if I was calling about the high definition broadcast. When I said yes he told me there was a technical problem (he didn't elaborate and I was too crushed to ask what it was) that wouldn't be fixed until Friday. Here's hoping it's fixed for Monsters, Inc. on Saturday.
post #251 of 3734
It was decided not to flip the switch because the demod that is receiving the network feed is broken. A replacement will not be in place until Friday. It is loosing lock and dropping out. That then REALLY screws up the server that delays the programming an hour. Upconvert is the backup.
post #252 of 3734
So.... what was the excuse last week when the first 10 minutes of Lost was SD? Maybe that was the "part" kind-of flickering out.

It's always fun inviting guests over to see LOST in HD only to have it not work. I can see why people are reluctant to get HD when they see the problems first hand. I hear a lot of . . . "I think I'll wait until the bugs get worked out."


As they're going out the door . . . "I'm sure next week will work. No, really, you can come back. . . It really DOES look good in HD. . . It was just a fluke. . . It normally works . . . Really . . . Don't laugh . . . HD is really good . . .usually . . .
post #253 of 3734
i'm getting no signal for wb. ne1 else have this problem?
post #254 of 3734
I agree. My wife and I got hooked on LOST after watching the two episode repeat on Saturday in HD (the storyline about the guy in the wheelchair was great).

We switched between HD and SD a couple of times, and because it is filmed outdoors in a tropical setting, it really benefits from HD (IMHO shows filmed on a soundstage are only marginally better in HD).

Anyway, we made a big deal to go down to the big home theater in the basement to watch LOST, and what a disappointment -- at least as to the picture quality (the story line just keeps getting better).
post #255 of 3734
i was gettting frequent audio dropouts on fox last night while watching the world series. ne1 else gettting these? i'm wondering if it's a national, local, or my own problem.
post #256 of 3734
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Originally posted by ricwhite
So.... what was the excuse last week when the first 10 minutes of Lost was SD? Maybe that was the "part" kind-of flickering out.

It's always fun inviting guests over to see LOST in HD only to have it not work. I can see why people are reluctant to get HD when they see the problems first hand. I hear a lot of . . . "I think I'll wait until the bugs get worked out."


As they're going out the door . . . "I'm sure next week will work. No, really, you can come back. . . It really DOES look good in HD. . . It was just a fluke. . . It normally works . . . Really . . . Don't laugh . . . HD is really good . . .usually . . .

I had the same problem - wanted to invite people over to show them how good Lost looks, but since there have been problems for 2 weeks now... Hopefully this will be fixed and reliable by the time Alias starts in January as those are the only 2 shows I regularly watch.
post #257 of 3734
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Originally posted by ricwhite
So.... what was the excuse last week when the first 10 minutes of Lost was SD? Maybe that was the "part" kind-of flickering out.


I don't watch any regular programming, but started watching Lost because the written reviews made it sound so promising. I started watching & became hooked enough to want to watch it weekly. Last night's episode was pretty weak, made even more so because of it not being in HD. It has almost become an excercise in futility with the networks and their sub-par HD support. Annoying as hell. I bet we would have no problems whatsoever if the networks were getting kickbacks from the HDTV mfrs.
post #258 of 3734
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Originally posted by kpoon
i was gettting frequent audio dropouts on fox last night while watching the world series. ne1 else gettting these? i'm wondering if it's a national, local, or my own problem.

I live in North Ogden and was able to get the playoffs with some picture and audio breakups at a signal strength of around 45-50%. I wasn't able to get the series at all because the signal dropped to 25-30%, bummer. I'd be nice if they'd finally increase their power output, especially for us on the fringes of reception. I've applied for a waver through D*, but haven't heard anything yet.
post #259 of 3734
Are the 7.x and 9.x Univeristy broadcasts working for anybody? I havn't been able to receive these channels since early this afternoon. Every other channel 2.x-30.x is receiving fine, so I find this very odd...
post #260 of 3734
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Originally posted by kpoon
i'm getting no signal for wb. ne1 else have this problem?

I looked back in the logs and can not see any problems, am assuming that this occurred around 4:50am when you posted, are you receiving WB o.k. now?
post #261 of 3734
Is there anywhere in SLC or Utah County (I am down by Pleasant Grove) that would be better to purchase an antenna for mounting in the attic other than Radio Shack?

Thanks,

Steve
post #262 of 3734
Anyone try out Comcast's new Video On Demand product. I was exploring it over the weekend and was pleasantly surprised that they have HD content in the VOD service with surround sound. Works really great, they had to do an update to the set-top box last Thursday and it took right off. No missing an episode of The Sopranos, Deadwood or Dead Like Me ever again!!!
post #263 of 3734
Although it's not exactly "in" Utah, I'd try solidsignal.com. In addition to being forum sponsors, they're pretty knowledgeable and have good prices.
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Originally posted by HiHoStevo
Is there anywhere in SLC or Utah County (I am down by Pleasant Grove) that would be better to purchase an antenna for mounting in the attic other than Radio Shack?

Thanks,

Steve
post #264 of 3734
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Originally posted by acmetvrick
I looked back in the logs and can not see any problems, am assuming that this occurred around 4:50am when you posted, are you receiving WB o.k. now?

no, i just checked this morning. my signal meter only reads from 0-13% for wb, & all i get is a black screen. it might be an equipment problem 'cause i'm not getting kjzz either. however, i'm getting the 4 major networks ok. i'll try rescanning tonight.
post #265 of 3734
just tried rescanning w/o any luck. i'm still w/o wb & kjzz. weird 'cause i'm getting all my other stations ok. ne1 else having similar problems?
post #266 of 3734
Have any of you folks tried the "Square Shooter" either 1000 or 2000 model antenna?

I am wondering how these would work for standard broadcast reception in addition to digital??

As the Cedar Hills area where I bought my home is located in a "purple" area (fringe) I would hope to talk to some people with experience with this unit before I purchase one.

Thanks,

Steve
post #267 of 3734
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Originally posted by snielson
It was decided not to flip the switch because the demod that is receiving the network feed is broken. A replacement will not be in place until Friday. It is loosing lock and dropping out. That then REALLY screws up the server that delays the programming an hour. Upconvert is the backup.

Oh.....I get it......you didn't say WHICH Friday. Maybe it's the last Friday in December.

If you looked really hard, however, you probably noticed Monsters, Inc. (Saturday, Oct 30 ABC) in HD for about 8 minutes about halfway through the movie.

Next time, let's see if we could stretch it to at least 15 minutes of HD.
post #268 of 3734
I tried the Square Shooter out in Murray. It worked well on all of the digital stations, but is not enough for analog UHF. It is not made for VHF at all.

After trying it, attached to the balcony railing just like a sat dish, I switched over to the big UHF long-yagi with preamp. I was not able to receive KSTU with all of that, until I added attenuation to DROP the signal. I am assuming that the preamp and antenna are adding some distortion and noise that are masking the lower-powered KSTU signal.

BTW, the SS was purchased by one of the engineers who lives far up Little Cottonwood Canyon. It worked for him until the trees all bloomed and soaked up too much of the signal that had been bouncing up in to the canyon. He has since switched to a long yagi.

So, I would say that the SS is fine for DTV-only in the valley, with line-of-sight reception. Won't do much for analog, or for any VHF. Probably a small-to-medium VHF antenna, paired with a good sized UHF is better for somewhere like Cedar Hills.
post #269 of 3734
I think what happened with Monsters, Inc. is that for some reason the digital channel continued to show a football game while the analog channel started showing Monsters. When they switched to HD, the show reverted back to what had been shown about 20 min earlier on the analog channel.

In short, it appears that the football game delayed the HD version of Monsters, Inc. and that rather than delay other shows, someone made the choice to skip Monster in HD. That's too bad because the 8 min I saw looked incredible.
post #270 of 3734
Can weather effect the signal strength of Fox13? Since the World Series I have been unable to receive any OTA channel from them, until today. The signal strength had gone down to 20 - 25%. Now it up to 40% and can get 13-1 OK, but 13-2 is broken up with no audio. Will a Channel Master antenna and a preamp do me any good here in North Ogden to pick up FOX or do I have to wait for them to increase there power output?
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