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post #3571 of 3734
What I really don't understand about Aereo, is why are they planning to provide service in an area where everything they offer (and probably more)(with the exception of Bloomberg TV) is so easily available for free. I can see it in New York, where OTA would be such a hit-and-miss thing, but around here?

Can you watch your "local" channels if you travel, or do you have to be in your local area to view them? If you have to be in your viewing area, is it the immediate area, or the whole DMA, or what?

It'll be interesting to see how it goes. They announced Spring. At least we won't have to wait too long.
post #3572 of 3734
Ever try carrying your antenna with you when on the go? Aereo uses the internet, so it's available to subscribers anywhere high speed internet is available.

At least until the lawyers get done with it... The Appeals Court didn't sound like they were impressed with Aereo's arguments...
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At the court hearing last month, Judge John Gleeson seemed skeptical of that stance. "You don't have all these little antennas because it makes any sense," he told Aereo's lawyer, according to the transcript. "It's kind of like constructing your business affairs to avoid taxes. Right?"

Read more: http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/190738/aereo-forges-ahead-despite-legal-battles-practica.html#ixzz2Hcjk8OGF



We'll see...
post #3573 of 3734
K39JZ-D which broadcasts KBYU, BYUtv and Create TV has been down for 4 weeks. Sure wish KBYU or BYUtv would post a status update on their site.
post #3574 of 3734
Just consider how many people are unable, for whatever reason, to use an antenna to get local broadcast stations that they are legally entitled to get for free. Wouldn't it be the same as me putting an antenna on my roof and "leasing" it to my next door neighbor?
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

Ever try carrying your antenna with you when on the go? Aereo uses the internet, so it's available to subscribers anywhere high speed internet is available.
At least until the lawyers get done with it... The Appeals Court didn't sound like they were impressed with Aereo's arguments...
We'll see...

I see Aereo's legal position - they are renting antennas, not reselling content.
As for "It's kind of like constructing your business affairs to avoid taxes. Right?", I refer to this quote:
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“Anyone may arrange his affairs so that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which best pays the treasury. There is not even a patriotic duty to increase one’s taxes.

— Judge Learned Hand, federal appeals court judge, 1934.

I think any station would jump at the chance to have someone provide a free translator for their station, thus increasing their audience. Why is providing a "translator" via internet that much different? Especially here in Utah, where one big stupid mountain can shut down any chance of OTA TV. I do think that providing a DVR service that stores all content on Aereo's servers certainly is a troubling aspect as far as copyrights is concerned, but that issue could be easily resolved by having users record content to their own individual computers.

That said, I would still prefer to get my local TV stations OTA. OTA TV doesn't require me to pay for anything - not internet or "leasing an antenna". OTA doesn't have bandwidth caps, nor does it require me to have a computer or Roku box for each TV in my house.
Edited by Vegas_Vic - 1/12/13 at 6:00am
post #3575 of 3734
I have serious doubts that those tiny little "paper clip" antennas can receive local stations on UHF, much less VHF. And, the idea that every subscriber has their own antenna and tuner seems even more impossible. If that's REALLY how it works, can a subscriber tune to all 51 OTA channels, in use or not, for DX'ing purposes?

I think they might be more believable, if they just called themselves an MATV system, and limited themselves to passing the local channels for a small fee.
But, I suspect they will add more channels, and more services, until they become nearly indistinguishable from a "real" Cable TV company.
post #3576 of 3734
Anyone else having signal/reception issues with KBYU/BYUtv/Create? It has now been one month without any of those three channels. I guess St George is out of luck.
post #3577 of 3734
KUTF Channel 12 update:Off-air again.

I wish Daystar would sell the station to someone who would do something useful with it.
post #3578 of 3734
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Originally Posted by Vegas_Vic View Post

KUTF Channel 12 update:Off-air again.

I wish Daystar would sell the station to someone who would do something useful with it.

You might get your wish. Daystar is selling off their full power station in Knoxville.
post #3579 of 3734
Would KUTF be of much value without a translator or two?

They seem to still have a license for the SLC analog translator on channel 45, and a CP to turn it in to an LD. I don't know why they never run either one.
Can't be that many Southern Baptists in the immediate area of Logan, though.
post #3580 of 3734
Probably not, but Daystar is Pentecostal anyway. They're everywhere! (Including at this keyboard)
post #3581 of 3734
Marcus Lamb is from my hometown...not sure if I ever met him, though.
post #3582 of 3734
KUCW is off the air. Transmitter problems since about 7:00 PM on Monday.
They have a problem with "Body Current" in their klystron. It ain't pretty.
If it's a bad tube, it might be expensive, too.
post #3583 of 3734
KUWB-LD, The CW translator from Web Hill in St George Utah never went off air.
post #3584 of 3734
If the FCC's CDBS database is correct, KUWB-LD might be a violation of their license. The station is licensed as a translator, with primary station KUCW and input channel 48, which is KUCW's channel number. Assuming that my understanding of translators is correct, they shouldn't be originating programming; if KUCW goes down, KUWB-LD is also supposed to go down.
post #3585 of 3734
Many of those stations down there are fed by a microwave from SLC.
post #3586 of 3734
I was surprised that CW30 was up on DirecTV while the transmitter was down. I thought that D* received most of the locals off-air at their POP.
post #3587 of 3734
The local POP for DirecTV and DISH Network is at KTVX/KUCW now. It used to be at QWEST, at 1500 South and 4800 West.
post #3588 of 3734
Was watching the movie "Space Cowboys" on KUCW last night (also, flipping back to the Grammy's during breaks).
Right in the middle of the movie, KUCW went back to the previous hour of the movie. Seems like it took about 5 to 10 minutes to correct it.
Where is their Master Control now? Have they "off-shored it" yet?
post #3589 of 3734
LOL
post #3590 of 3734
On Tuesday, K24CY switched back to an analog signal. The digital signal only last two months.
post #3591 of 3734
The KJZZ translator had a paperwork problem, and the FCC had them switch back to analog temporarily.
They're basically waiting for the corrected paperwork to say, "All Clear", and turn it back on (soon).
post #3592 of 3734
Looks like KPDR-LD is getting a new channel on 19-5 around April 1.
"Danny Kramer TV" is going to broadcast live, doing radio the way so many of us remember, but on Free OTA TV.

They are hiring many of the famous Salt Lake area music DJ's, and are building a radio (with video) studio at KPDR's studios in South Salt Lake. They plan to broadcast on 19-5, as well as stream their station.

Details are on the video at the KPDR website.
post #3593 of 3734
Tom Barberi on TV? If only they could get Hans Peterson!

A few years ago I watched a program on KUED about the history of radio in the Salt Lake market. They had, I think it was, 5 DJs that I used to listen to all of the time. It was rather fascinating.

After seeing some of the musicians that I used to listen to in high school, though, I'm not so sure if I want to see the DJs from then. eek.gif

Thanks, Ken. Sad that Ralph has decided to go the route that he did with KDYL. Actually, that's quite surprising to me. He has been about the last of the holdouts around here -- until now. I stopped listening to 1060 when he changed to the "Real Oldies" format.
post #3594 of 3734
Good video of their plans, on the KPDR site. There are some of the DJ's on there, too.
post #3595 of 3734
I couldn't find that video, or even any mention of it on KPDR's website. Just America One-19.1, Tuff TV-19.2, News, Sports, and Family. I did see where Danny wrote about it in Talking Utah Radio, though.
post #3596 of 3734
It's on their LiveStream stuff, linked from their Facebook page:

http://www.livestream.com/kpdropenmicnight?fb_version=3.0

Two videos on there about this. Both are raw feeds, so audio is not even turned on for the first part, where they are setting things up. Just FFW in a bit on them.
post #3597 of 3734
I just got a DB8e from Antennas Direct. It's basically 2 DB4e units joined with a hinge, coax, and a splitter/ joiner. Installed in S cache valley, it replaced my Radio Shack U75r (pointed N, and getting Cache County off the back.)
With one half of the antenna towards Franklin county, and the the other pointed towards Mt. Pisgah, I was surprised to get KMTW, KPNZ, and on one TV, KSVN. The down side is I lost some of my Franklin county channels due to re-radiation out the other antenna - fortunately, the ones I lost are duplicates of my Cache County channels. And the channels I gained are not very desirable. Wishing I could ION/Qubo/Life, but there is WAY too much co-channel interference up here. The only "Spectrum Crisis" I have up here is that nearly every usable channel is being used.

Nice, well built antenna, but really pricey. eek.gif
post #3598 of 3734
If you aimed both sides of the DB8e one direction, then it should be an even better performer than the original DB8, and possibly the strongest 8bay currently available.
post #3599 of 3734
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

If you aimed both sides of the DB8e one direction, then it should be an even better performer than the original DB8, and possibly the strongest 8bay currently available.

Perhaps you didn't understand, I need reception from 2 directions. However, this is really just 2 DB4e antennas joined together. You can buy 2 of them for under $60 each online, and it will have the same gain as the DB8e - for $80 less.

Now, if you want to talk serious UHF gain, I give you the ChannelMaster CM4251: http://www.rocketroberts.com/cm4251/cm4251.htm

Instructions for stacking four of these beasties:
post #3600 of 3734
You'd actually do better with a DB8e if you simply aligned the bowties and removed the reflectors, making it bidirectional. That way, you don't have a re-radiation issue nor combiner losses.
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