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Another legendary Channel Master product no longer made. Too bad Antennacraft or Winegard won't make a parabolic antenna anymore either. But it would indeed be cheaper to order 2 separate DB4e's and join them together with a good low loss splitter in reverse. Use the same length of coax cable connecting both. Then aim in each direction, and possibly add a good low noise preamp. But joining antennas pointing different directions can be tricky, as they can interfere. Also, 3Star has a similar antenna to the DB8e for only $69. I believe it is called 4228 also, but it is different from Channel Master, as you can point each side in different directions.

Perhaps Antennas Direct could be nudged into producing a new consumer grade UHF parabolic?

Yea, right. Probably not.

I think they are pushing the new DB8e as their new top line antenna. And it does appear to be a very good antenna, and possibly the strongest gain 8bay currently available.

One thing I don't like about the newer antennas is, they are using some sort of printed-circuit, strip-line balun. The "balun" is only a real balun at it's design frequency, unlike a transformer-based balun.
I'm finding that these units allow a lot of "out of band" noise, from the TV's digital circuits and switch-mode power supplies, to radiate out of the antenna elements, and may also ride up the cable shield and in to the desired UHF band as well.

I've been replacing them with real baluns . The other alternative is to put several ferrites, of two or three different "mixes", on the cables at both ends.

Is anyone experiencing any audio issues with ch 19? On all channels (.1-.5), all I hear is popping. All other channels are fine. My signal level is ~+15dBmV on channel 19.

They seem to have lots of audio issues. I've noticed some channels have no audio at all at times. Sometimes they even lose all the video channels, too.
I wonder if they have some audio sync problems (audio clock not sync'ed to the video) or some mux issues.

Comcast dropped the analog NTSC feeds of all the local stations this morning, around 9:00 AM.
The SDTV versions are still available via Clear QAM, on channels like 83.xxx
They may also re-map to channels like 5.4 (SDTV), and 5.1 (HDTV)..

Re-scan your Clear-QAM sets, if needed.

I guess my Samsung DTBH260F doesn't like channel 19. No audio issues on either my Windows Media Center or my TV itself. Only the STB has issues. Too bad, too. I really like that STB (even though it's been discontinued).

Have you noticed any difference in reception in the antennas you have replaced the baluns on?

Well I have heard somewhat the opposite regarding these baluns, but I could be wrong. I was lead to believe that the circuit board baluns allowed less interference and signal loss, especially when dealing with fringe signals. A more precise and stable signal transfer. And that the matching transformer type baluns could cause more of an impedance mismatch, with the 2 wires on one end and the coax connector on the other, possibly resulting in pixelation, interference, and signal loss. So I thought the circuit boards were more of a higher tech design that performed better, but again I could be mistaken. Supposedly Digitenna uses some kind of patented circuit board design that reportedly performs well. And Antennas Direct for the most part has converted to circuit board baluns. And as a matter of fact, I now have both versions of the 91XG balun, which I have not tested yet because it requires getting on a ladder in the attic at my sister's house where the antenna is located. But eventually I will.

WNCT in Greenville NC

9.1 CBS 1081i
9.2 Eastern CW 720p

Did you DX these stations from the SLC area?

no I was replying to another post who did not think that two HD programs at one time on one primary and sub was possible.

Around here, we have:

2.1 - 1080i
2.2 - 720p

11.1 - 720p
11.2 - 720p
11.3 - 480i

2.1 is 1080I and 2.2 is also 1080I as of about 2 months

Interesting. I looked at it before I posted, and it indicated 720p. Just looked at it again, and it indicates the same 720p it did yesterday. Any idea why it would indicate 720p when you're sending it out at 1080i?

You are right, it was at 1080I for a while but it was put back to 702P and I guess I did not get the memo. LOL

I take it both channels were being adversely affected. Or, is that something CBS just says you can't do?

Is Open Mic Night at Pat's broadcast on 19.5, or is it just streamed?

Data stream sharing was not good enough for us some very slight pixelation, sometimes.

Isn't today the day that "Danny Kramer TV" is supposed to start?
Anybody checked channel 19 yet?

It hasn't started as of 8:14AM.

Looks like the Nexstar axe has fallen again. Dan Plant, Ann Sterling, and Kylie Conway are no longer there. They are "pursuing other career opportunities."

"Sinclair Broadcast Group is preparing 10 stations for mobile DTV and aims to broadcast mobile-capable signals to them over the next six months. The stations are KEYE Austin, WBFF Baltimore, WKRC Cincinnati, WKEF-WRGT Dayton, WLOS Asheville, WPGH Pittsburgh, KUTV Salt Lake City, WPEC West Palm Beach and KDNL St. Louis. "

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/492637-Sinclair_Preps_10_Stations_For_Mobile_DTV.php

This is DYLE TV- not true MDTV.

From http://www.dyle.tv/faqs/

So you will pay for OTA broadcasts. It's not available on Android - and if you have a real MDTV, you can't use it.

Anybody got a clue where AEREO is building their Salt Lake City facility?

Hey, new to the forum, but just wanted to get some opinions. Here is my TV Fool graph:http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d1dda25e7f41b9d What would you guys do with this graph info? I feel like the bulk of the channels are going in 2 opposite directions. I would imagine our mountains also block out a lot of options as well. Would a multi directional antenna up in the attic work for getting most of the possible channels? Would there be any benefit trying to setup x2 directional antennas? Do they make a high quality 2-directional antenna? Thoughts? Thanks guys

Do you really want any of those stations not coming from the WSW? You probably ought to investigate those stations first to see if they are ones you want to invest effort, time, and money in receiving.

With the exception of a religious channel and a Hispanic channel or 2, everything is on the Oquirrhs, on the west side of the valley. I know the TVFool plot indicates a bunch on the east side, but those are just reflections from the transmitters on the west side. My antenna is pointed west, and the only channels I don't get are channel 32 (Hispanic) on West Mountain in Utah County, and channel 26 (religious) on Foothill Drive.

Some of that info on TV Fool is outdated...there are no channels above 51, for instance. Also, 19 (KPDR) is now located slightly north of Farnsworth Peak, right by most of the other stations.

Univision 32 comes from Lake Mountain, west of Provo. I get it off the side of my antenna at home.
3ABN comes from the SLC East Bench. I get it most of the time, due to a reflection off of a nearby building.

All those other odd channels are coming from Park City or other areas that are blocked by mountains. Everything else in Salt Lake/Ogden/Provo comes from the Farnsworth Peak area.

You might get channel 12 (Daystar) with a good VHF antenna, but I hear that they are hardly ever on the air anyway.