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post #421 of 3661
Rubes, I just sent you a PM about where you live in Sugarhouse, I also live here with Directv and trying to find a antenna.
post #422 of 3661
I just got my HD Tivo for Directv and got my antenna hooked up, I am getting all the channels really good. I checked all the off air antenna frequency signals and NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS and all those. I don't care about Fox cause Directv Gives it to me, they also give me CBS. But anyway, I am new to this, and maybe someone can help me understand this. In the channel guide for directv it is showing me 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 5.1, 5.2, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 ... and so on.. What are these extra channels I thought I would just have like 4.1 and 5.1, so what are the extra ones like 4.2 and 4.3?

Thanks
Jason
post #423 of 3661
Lost the high def. FOX (13.2) NFL playoff feed on Sunday right before halftime. Never came back on and I had to watch the rest in standard def. Anybody know what happened? All of my other OTA channel came in clear in high Def. Fox was "no signal." Live in Layton.
post #424 of 3661
I never lost the feed using USDTV in West Valley. I wonder if the Layton area had bad reception?

Thought you'd like to know.
post #425 of 3661
Quote:


Originally posted by robinsj
I just got my HD Tivo for DirecTV and got my antenna hooked up, I am getting all the channels really good. I checked all the off air antenna frequency signals and NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS and all those. I don't care about Fox cause DirecTV Gives it to me, they also give me CBS. But anyway, I am new to this, and maybe someone can help me understand this. In the channel guide for DirecTV it is showing me 4.1, 4.2, 4.3, 5.1, 5.2, 7.1, 7.2, 7.3 ... and so on.. What are these extra channels I thought I would just have like 4.1 and 5.1, so what are the extra ones like 4.2 and 4.3?

Thanks
Jason

In some cases, the local stations are sending multiple digital channels, for instance channel 5 sends 5.1 & 5.2. One is simply a digital channel broadcast at 480i and the other is the HD channel broadcasting at 720p or 1080i (can't remember which it is at the moment...) Is there a compelling reason for them to do this? Good question. I am not aware of one.

Channel four even throws in 4.3 which always seems to be a shot of the SL skyline with a radio station playing in the background. Whatever.

My concern would be that these channels might be constraining the bandwidth available for the HD feed.

Maybe Ken can chime in with his thoughts since he works for KSL.
post #426 of 3661
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Originally posted by ricwhite
Anybody know what happened?

the ota signal was fine for me for the whole game.
post #427 of 3661
My Fox (13.2) HD feed is still out. (Layton, UT). I had to watch "24" tonight in standard def. I have always had great fox reception in Layton. Yesterday, I watched the whole first half of the playoff game in HD when it suddenly quit. I haven't had it since. My HD receiver is not detecting any HD signal from Fox. I rebooted and redownloaded the channels, and it only detects the the SD feed (13) but no HD feed. I get all the other HD feeds from the other local channels just fine.

Is there anybody else in Davis or Weber counties able to receive Fox? What could be the cause of it suddenly going out? Why would I have a good signal one minute, but no signal the next?

I'm a little puzzled (and disappointed) here.
post #428 of 3661
ric, I live in West Layton and have never been able to pick up Fox. Of course, I'm using a Terk set-top antenna, so that might be part of the problem. I thought Fox wasn't going to bump their digital signal strength until March or something; I didn't expect to be able to get their digital OTA feed for a few more months?!?!
post #429 of 3661
Quote:


Originally posted by Schwa
ric, I live in West Layton and have never been able to pick up Fox. Of course, I'm using a Terk set-top antenna, so that might be part of the problem. I thought Fox wasn't going to bump their digital signal strength until March or something; I didn't expect to be able to get their digital OTA feed for a few more months?!?!

I kinda thought I remembered hearing a March date as well, but as Ken English was so kind to point out, March isn't exactly the ideal time to be hauling a new antenna assembly up to FP. Their current antenna is set up at ground level and would put out too much radiation if they up'ed the power...
post #430 of 3661
Hi all,

I've been using only 2 channel audio for my HD watching the last few months while construction on my home theater room was wrapped up.

I just finished hooking everything up last weekend and am experiencing 'audio dropouts' in the CBS HD signal during programming that is in Dolby Digital 5.1. Examples include the football game on Sunday, CSI: Miami last night, etc.

If I switch the audio coming out of the DirecTV HD receiver to analog everything is fine. Trying to decide if it is the signal or my equipment or some combination of both.

Is anyone else experiencing issues with 5.1 audio with CBS programming? I'm not experiencing any problems with any other over the air HD reception.
post #431 of 3661
I have had audio drop-outs occassionally if I use a digital connection. My thought is that it is with my RCA receiver being cheap. I have finally resorted to using an analog connection and Dolby Pro Logic II, which is surprisingly good.

I wonder if the reception is sort of poor, if the receiver doesn't have enough data (or time) to decode the signal which causes dropouts.
post #432 of 3661
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Originally posted by knudsenj
Is anyone else experiencing issues with 5.1 audio with CBS programming?

i watched the football game & numb3rs on sunday. i didn't notice any major problem w/ frequent audio dropouts on the ota signal.
post #433 of 3661
I get audio drop outs all the time with CSI: Miami. Last Monday's repeat was especially bad. All other programing seems to be pretty good though. The football playoff game last week was fine, for example. CSI: Miami seems to be the worst. My signal strength is good, so I don't think it has to do with weak signals.

I still have no 13.2 fox HD feed that suddenly went out during the playoff game. I am not pleased with that.
post #434 of 3661
ric,

I'm in Clearfield and I have had a signal (with annoying dropouts) for the past week. Signal strength is about 50 which is normally smooth sailing - Unfortunately not this week (Inversion related? I don't know.....)

Michael
post #435 of 3661
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Originally posted by MSilla
ric,

I'm in Clearfield and I have had a signal (with annoying dropouts) for the past week. Signal strength is about 50 which is normally smooth sailing - Unfortunately not this week (Inversion related? I don't know.....)

Michael

Yeah, the fog and inversion crossed my mind as well.
post #436 of 3661
Is anyone who's receiving Fox-HD in the Clearfield/Layton area using a set-top antenna? If so, I might bother rescanning my channels to see if I can pick up Fox now, although I doubt I'll be able to, since it's likely nothing's changed with respect to their signal since I got my TV two months ago.
post #437 of 3661
I live in Perry (just south of Brigham City) and use a set top antenna and receive all major OTA stations 100% of the time and Fox about 95% of the time. I dont know what signal strength I have because my Samsung 360 meter doesnt work worth crap but I know its low because I get drop outs about the other 5% of the time.

Because the Superbowl is on Fox I didnt want to take the chance that it would drop out I called D* and asked if I could receive the Fox HD feed. He checked and said I was elegible to receive Fox West feed as well as CBS West feed. I have no idea why I was only eligible to receive those two and not all of them but thats fine with me because now I have a backup HD feed for Fox.

I suggest those that cannot recieve Fox reliably call their Sat company and request their HD feed. It was done and over with in 5 minutes and quite painless

Oh Schwa, I am receiving 13-2 without a problem.
post #438 of 3661
Quote:


Originally posted by Schwa
Is anyone who's receiving Fox-HD in the Clearfield/Layton area using a set-top antenna? If so, I might bother rescanning my channels to see if I can pick up Fox now, although I doubt I'll be able to, since it's likely nothing's changed with respect to their signal since I got my TV two months ago.

I live in East Layton with a large roof-top antenna that has a totally clear sight line to the towers on the Oqurrh Mountains. My Fox signal went out on Sunday during the playoff game and it still wasn't working as of yesterday. I will try again today.

I have D*TV, so maybe I can call and get the satellite feed of Fox instead of OTA. Does anybody know if they will do that for somebody living in the Layton area, or is that too close to SLC?
post #439 of 3661
On a related note, does anyone know if Dish Network offers Fox via satellite-feed HD? Thx!
post #440 of 3661
When i ordered my HD package from directv, the guy said "do you want to see if you can get network hd feeds too?"

i said yes..


i guess the answer was yes, as i get fox and cbs hd over the sat now..

if i remember right, the channel #'s are 80 and 81 ish..
post #441 of 3661
The answer on DirecTV and I am going to make a "leap of faith" here and assume it will be the same for Dish is that the local FOX and CBS stations are actually owned by FOX and CBS where NBC and ABC are "affiliates" that are privately owned by some other corporation.

For that reason you can receive the CBS and FOX feed via satellite as they have given D* blanket permission to re-broadcast their feeds in area's where they own the local stations.

Steve
post #442 of 3661
I am in Highland and i went to watch Smallville last night and i couldn't pick up 30. Anybody else have this problem?
post #443 of 3661
Yep. I've had the same problems with FOX and WB as previously mentioned. South Utah county, if that matters.

13.2 flickered a couple of times during the game Sunday afternoon then went out. I switched to 13.1 but also gone. The regular analog 13 worked fine. A couple of commercials later, I checked and 13.2 was back. Been running fine ever since.

I too noticed no 30.1 yesterday for Smallville. No signal at all. Analog 30 worked fine, though. I checked periodically but 30.1 never came back on during Smallville. An hour or so later, I happened to surf past 30.1 and it was back on.

Curious...
post #444 of 3661
Quote:
Originally posted by ajones
I am in Highland and i went to watch Smallville last night and i couldn't pick up 30. Anybody else have this problem?


Yes. But then it came back. My Fox OTA HD has never come back. It's been out for 5 days, but I was able to get the Directv Fox Network feed. So I am set for HD Superbowl.
post #445 of 3661
ric,

Did they make you pay an extra $3 to receive the feed? They wanted to charge me extra - I refused but considering the way FOX 13 has been breaking up as of late I MAY have no choice.....

Michael.
post #446 of 3661
Quote:
Originally posted by MSilla
ric,

Did they make you pay an extra $3 to receive the feed? They wanted to charge me extra - I refused but considering the way FOX 13 has been breaking up as of late I MAY have no choice.....

Michael.

No extra fee. I have the HD package that I usually pay $10.99 per month. They said I "automatically" get the HD feeds for CBS and FOX. CBS is on Directv channel 81 and FOX is on 89 (If I remember correctly). I don't know what criteria they use to determine qualification. I live in Layton, about 35 or so miles from the local towers. I assume it's a "location" thing.

On a side note . . . when I called DTV about the network HD feed the guy I talked too seemed very enthusiastic about HD content. He said they will greatly be expanding their HD offerings until by 2007 EVERYTHING on DTV will be in high definition. Right.
post #447 of 3661
Eurastus,

We were having problems with our PSIP generator Wednesday afternoon and then again right before Smallville on Wednesday night. We have it working at this time and awaiting parts to come in on Tuesday for a final fix.

Rick

Quote:


Originally posted by Eurastus
Yep. I've had the same problems with FOX and WB as previously mentioned. South Utah county, if that matters.

13.2 flickered a couple of times during the game Sunday afternoon then went out. I switched to 13.1 but also gone. The regular analog 13 worked fine. A couple of commercials later, I checked and 13.2 was back. Been running fine ever since.

I too noticed no 30.1 yesterday for Smallville. No signal at all. Analog 30 worked fine, though. I checked periodically but 30.1 never came back on during Smallville. An hour or so later, I happened to surf past 30.1 and it was back on.

Curious...
post #448 of 3661
Thank you, Mr. Rick.

My kids and I have a standing appointment for Smallville every Wednesday evening. We all look forward to it...

Here's to next week...
post #449 of 3661
Whats up with Fox 13?

My signal dropped off sometime in the last week, and I have not been able to get it back. I am using over the air with the new LG unit (HD/DVD combo), and an $39 antenna from Home Depot in the Attic. I live in the Sandy/Draper area (up on the bluff near 1300 east, 11800 south)

It came in fine for the Eagles/Falcons game, and I have not had the signal since.
post #450 of 3661
Fox was coming in a lot weaker for me (constant dropouts instead of rare), so I wonder if they changed something somehow. It didn't coincide with the weather, so I doubt it was that. It seems to have just changed in the last few days.
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