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post #211 of 394
Himey... That device upgrade is available at the Yahoo JP1 group. It's just a small simple text file that I'd be happy to email to you if you don't feel like registering. In fact, I may try to PM it to you. But you are going to have to learn JP1 anyway in order to get full functionality of the receiver.

As a little tease it looks to me like this upgrade has everything from fader settings to equalizer presets to LCD panel dimmer!

Mpsan... wouldn't it be great if I could send Himey this device upgrade from a Gmail account?
post #212 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by mpsan
Can we use a code that is not assigned to a key? I mean, I have power off on the vcr (0614) set to sleep. Any way to assign it to a nonkey...perhaps I need to read phantom keys, etc.
Sure thing. You can use IR functions that aren't assigned to physical
buttons. There are already predefined placeholders in KM for DiscreteON
and DiscreteOFF. I'd imagine RM has the same. When loaded into IR,
they will show up as Keymoves for the DiscreteON and DiscreteOFF
placeholders.

Within IR there are tons of places you can use for temporary storage,
including shift, xshift, and normal variations of all the choices. Lot's of
times people use the xshift variations to store stuff they don't need to
execute physically on the remote (ie stuff that will only be called within
macros)
post #213 of 394
Great...someday I will stop playing and actually use these remotes. :-)

Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
Bingo!!! That's exactly a perfect phantom key application I believe!
post #214 of 394
Do you need an account?


Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
Himey... That device upgrade is available at the Yahoo JP1 group. It's just a small simple text file that I'd be happy to email to you if you don't feel like registering. In fact, I may try to PM it to you. But you are going to have to learn JP1 anyway in order to get full functionality of the receiver.

As a little tease it looks to me like this upgrade has everything from fader settings to equalizer presets to LCD panel dimmer!

Mpsan... wouldn't it be great if I could send Himey this device upgrade from a Gmail account?
post #215 of 394
Yup, that is where I saw discrete on, etc. Have you played with RM, I like it a lot and so far it is good. It is an app not a spreadsheet. I hate spreadsheets (at Home). I create and update them all day. Have some that take 12 minutes to open. One of them a coworker opened, sorted 3 ways, saved and it took 2.5 HOURS!



Quote:
Originally posted by sfhub
Sure thing. You can use IR functions that aren't assigned to physical
buttons. There are already predefined placeholders in KM for DiscreteON
and DiscreteOFF. I'd imagine RM has the same. When loaded into IR,
they will show up as Keymoves for the DiscreteON and DiscreteOFF
placeholders.

Within IR there are tons of places you can use for temporary storage,
including shift, xshift, and normal variations of all the choices. Lot's of
times people use the xshift variations to store stuff they don't need to
execute physically on the remote (ie stuff that will only be called within
macros)
post #216 of 394
SFHUB, the LDKP text says to copy code from the end of the file to use. However the only thing there for the 2116 is ext1. Is that what you used or is that in case you did not install everything in the ext2.txt file all at once as I will.
post #217 of 394
mpsan.. yes... !!!! I could use an invite.

Sent you a PM.
post #218 of 394
LDKP placeholder device and LDKP protocol are contained in the ext2
IR file you loaded. You shouldn't need to copy anything.

Look for the MISC/1106 device and the associated protocol $1F9.
post #219 of 394
Jeff... I still don't know which Onkyo device you are trying, but I did have a similar problem with the Onkyo TX-SR600 RCVR code.

It's setup as RCVR device 1135. But after I upload to the remote, I get device 1023 on my remote (including when I then download back to IR).

Hmmmm.... this is similar to what you were experiencing no?

Let's start with which Onkyo device you are trying to use.
post #220 of 394
Also... are you (Jeff) using RM or KeyMaster? I'm using the spreadsheet because, while I do use them at work, none of them take 2 hours to save (see above)!
post #221 of 394
It was me, Dave, who creates big Sheets, and use Rm.

Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
Also... are you (Jeff) using RM or KeyMaster? I'm using the spreadsheet because, while I do use them at work, none of them take 2 hours to save (see above)!
post #222 of 394
Anybody got an extra one of these they wanna part with? I have the one that doesn't do RF... actually, I have 3 of them. However, now I need the one that will radio to the other room, since that's where my components are. I'd happily trade with my non-RF version plus some coin.
post #223 of 394
Check the email address you gave me.


Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
mpsan.. yes... !!!! I could use an invite.

Sent you a PM.
post #224 of 394
Are we all square now mp3? (I know it was you with the big, er, uh, sheets, but I wanted to know which program Jeff D was using).
post #225 of 394
Clubfan.. your done... flat trade.

I like the look and feel of the 2116/7 and I can't use any of mine in the basement lest they trigger false commands upstairs!!! Plus... what the heck, I'm long these puppies anyway.

Sent you a PM.
post #226 of 394
Yup, all set, and of course I would use Java based stuff! :-)

Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
Are we all square now mp3? (I know it was you with the big, er, uh, sheets, but I wanted to know which program Jeff D was using).
post #227 of 394
Well, so far so good on the scan and setting the clock. The transport keys are ok but not volume. I bet what happens is the phantom1 sets all the keys but has NO DEV vcr starts with vcr and then calls phantom1...but phantom 1 never gives a device, so, when on vcr it sees transport as vcr transport, but it sees vol as vcr vol which is NOT OK. So I can play, but need to add CA, I thought I did that. Next time I will do a careful config in RM and save the darn thing!

Yup, macro is cool. My vcr-phantom1-dev_tv-volxxx-dev_vcr works great.
post #228 of 394
Peter I was using the SS and then RM to add the device in.

The device is Onkyo_TX-SR601_RCVR-1135.txt, this is NOT the device I have, I've actually got a TX_NR900 but I figured the 601 was the closest match if they are sharing command sets.

Is that the info you were looking for?
post #229 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by mpsan
The transport keys are ok but not volume. I bet what happens is the phantom1 sets all the keys but has NO DEV vcr starts with vcr and then calls phantom1...but phantom 1 never gives a device, so, when on vcr it sees transport as vcr transport, but it sees vol as vcr vol which is NOT OK.
If you want to implement Volume Punch Through, you just add the following
to copy phantom1 to phantom2 and add this to the end:

DEV_TV; SET_VOL_KEYS; Dev_Cancel

and remove SET_VOL_KEYS from the beginning of phantom2. DEV_TV
above could be DEV_AUD, or whatever your volume device is.

I don't remember, maybe there already is a phantom2 that does this for
you, it's been so long since I worked with the base ext2 config.

Now for devices that you want VPT, use phantom2, for devices where
you want volume to control the devices volume, use phantom1.
post #230 of 394
I did this instead.
for VCR
DEV_VCR;phantom1;DEV_TV;SET_VOL_KEYS;DEV_VCR

Works great.

Quote:
Originally posted by sfhub
If you want to implement Volume Punch Through, you just add the following
to copy phantom1 to phantom2 and add this to the end:

DEV_TV; SET_VOL_KEYS; Dev_Cancel

and remove SET_VOL_KEYS from the beginning of phantom2. DEV_TV
above could be DEV_AUD, or whatever your volume device is.

I don't remember, maybe there already is a phantom2 that does this for
you, it's been so long since I worked with the base ext2 config.

Now for devices that you want VPT, use phantom2, for devices where
you want volume to control the devices volume, use phantom1.
post #231 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff D
Peter I was using the SS and then RM to add the device in.

The device is Onkyo_TX-SR601_RCVR-1135.txt, this is NOT the device I have, I've actually got a TX_NR900 but I figured the 601 was the closest match if they are sharing command sets.

Is that the info you were looking for?
That's what I was looking for, yes. I'll try again tonight with that upgrade.

I'll have to look at RM again, since it's not clear to me that you actually need RM if you're using Keymaster to load the device upgrade. You can go right from keymaster to IR to upoload (maybe that's what you meant).

When I slow down a little and think about it, maybe I'll see something I'm mising, but it is funny that I'm getting a similar result to you--and I've added device upgrades before without a hitch.

I look at JP1 like every 9 months or so and I feel like I'm right back at the bottom of the learning curve every time I pick it up again.
post #232 of 394
Sorry Peter, my bad if I mentioned RM. I'm going directly from SS to IR. I think I've been messing up app names. :(
post #233 of 394
I think I just picked up the last 15-2117 in central Massachusetts today!
post #234 of 394
After looking ALL over the bay area a few weeks back I was told here were no more. THen last week I was talking to a friend (he's been into JP1 for years) and told him about this clearance.... He is in the bay area too, so I figured he would be out of luck. Yesterday he emails saying he scored one. I guess that one remote just slipped through the cracks. He said it took the rep 5 minutes to find it. They're still out there!
post #235 of 394
Jeff... I won't have time to test this again until Saturday.

However, given that I got the same result with a different Onkyo upgrade, I think it actually means that we are both doing the same WRONG thing in the KeyMaster spreadsheet with this upgrade. I'm not exactly sure WHY I think it means that... but I am pretty certain.

I'll try again when I'm home with JP1 and my remotes.
post #236 of 394
mpsan
Thanks
I used code 1518 under receiver's and the power worked but not anything else. However it was able to "learn" the other buttons with this code...

plyons10
Thanks for the help. I plan on getting a JP1 cable very soon and I will learn the in's and out's of JP1! I am coming off learning about usbirt/girder and my brain is still a little "fried"...Thanks again to all,Eric
post #237 of 394
I stumbled across this thread late (over the past weekend), but was able to locate a couple of these near me (Tacoma, WA) yesterday. I'm playing with one now, but all my real gear is still in storage awaiting the new house (Sept 30 can't get here fast enough). I'm going to try to play around with JP1 until then so I'm ready when the time comes. I'm a bit concerned about getting my Onkyo 838 receiver coded in, but the questions will have to wait. Oh...I don't wait well. Anyway...thanks for the heads up!

Rob
post #238 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by himey
mpsan
Thanks
I used code 1518 under receiver's and the power worked but not anything else. However it was able to "learn" the other buttons with this code...
If you can learn the codes for the Onkyo, you can almost definitely create
a custom device upgrade.

Jeff, I lost track, did you get your problem fixed, if not, what is the problem.
I remember you mentioned something about the onkyo upgrade not
taking, but I don't know if that got fixed already.

If you send me your IR file and a description of the problem I can take a
look.
post #239 of 394
pylons: Check your PM. I just replied... sorry it took so long. Thanks for doing this!!
post #240 of 394
sfhub, nope didn't get it working. Peter was going to test it this weekend. If you want to try the file name is listed above comes from the yahoo group. All I did was use that file in the SS and then use the SS to export the data to IR. I assigned the device to my audio button and uploaded that to the remote. On the restart the remote reverts back to 1023 or 1024 for the code on the audio button. It's like the changes aren't taking.

I was using the TX601 remote even though I have a NR900 receiver. I figured it was a good place to start, but the remotes themselves are pretty different. I really need a codeset for an 898, or 900. That I feel I may have to construct by hand.


BTW, OT but while on the subject of IR... I was helping a friend a few weeks back with his learning remote, I believe it's the remote that came with his sony STR-DA5000ES. This remote couldn't learn the remote codes for his cable box motorola HD decoder, most likely the 5100, but may be a newer one. I think it's silver and the remote was blue and red buttons. Anyone know does this box have a "strange" IR stream that the sony remote may not understand?
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