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post #31 of 394
It supports replay out of the box. Not all the functions are mapped to
buttons by default, so you will need to map some buttons by entering
their 3 digit advanced code listed here (ie create a keymove):

http://hifi-remote.com/cgi-bin2/ueic.cgi?PVR_0616

There is no need to use learning at all for Replay to have access to all
the functions. There is no need to use JP1 to have access to all the
functions. Any function listed in the link above is supported out of the
box and some just haven't been mapped to buttons on the remote.
post #32 of 394
GREAT...I have 2 on order!

Will look at link!
post #33 of 394
The link you gave does not show all of the functions...I don't think.

Is there a listing of all codes somewhere, or do I need learning mode for others.
post #34 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by mpsan
The link you gave does not show all of the functions...I don't think.
Huh? It has every function on my 5040 remote. It even has Input
cycle, which isn't on the 5040 remote.

Which function were you thinking about? Maybe you weren't used to the
format it is listed in. All the stuff at the top is availabe via the 3 digit
advanced code, but not mapped in the default layout. This is easily
addressed using a Keymove (which is UEI-speak for button assignment)
For the most part you just enter the 3 digit EFC and press the button you
want it assigned to.

You can also learn the functions, but I think that is a waste of memory
if the function is already supported by the builtin device through advanced
codes.
post #35 of 394
OK, I guess up/down/left/right are the same. Is there a Menu or Display?
Mine will be at the Local store Wednesday.

Heads up! RS told me to pick them up by Thursday as they are having a BIG sale starting Friday and if I don't get them then, he will sell them.



Quote:
Originally posted by sfhub
Huh? It has every function on my 5040 remote. It even has Input
cycle, which isn't on the 5040 remote.

Which function were you thinking about? Maybe you weren't used to the
format it is listed in. All the stuff at the top is availabe via the 3 digit
advanced code, but not mapped in the default layout. This is easily
addressed using a Keymove (which is UEI-speak for button assignment)
For the most part you just enter the 3 digit EFC and press the button you
want it assigned to.

You can also learn the functions, but I think that is a waste of memory
if the function is already supported by the builtin device through advanced
codes.
post #36 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by mpsan
OK, I guess up/down/left/right are the same. Is there a JUMP?
Mine will be at the Local store Wednesday.
I suggest using the "Ctrl-F" find function in IE on the page/link above.
It is all there.
post #37 of 394
You responded before my edit. :-)


Quote:
Originally posted by sfhub
I suggest using the "Ctrl-F" find function in IE on the page/link above.
It is all there.
post #38 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by mpsan
You responded before my edit. :-)
Answer is still the same :)
post #39 of 394
OH, I see my problem. I thought the first few lines were for the Showstoper/Replay.

I did not realize the ones marked VCR would also apply. Is that right?

Thank you,
Dave


[quote]Originally posted by sfhub
Answer is still the same :) [/
QUOTE]
post #40 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by mpsan
[b]OH, I see my problem. I thought the first few lines were for the Showstoper/Replay.

I did not realize the ones marked VCR would also apply. Is that right?
That is correct, everything you see on that page applies.
The ones below the "VCR" marker are mapped to buttons out of the box.
In general, the other ones above, you need to map to buttons yourself
(assuming you want to use them)

In practice this means every function is available, without the need for
JP1 and without the need for learning.
post #41 of 394
Great. I am on the JP1 forum, and have the software. Even bought the few parts I need but never made a cable.

Quote:
Originally posted by sfhub
That is correct, everything you see on that page applies.
The ones below the "VCR" marker are mapped to buttons out of the box.
In general, the other ones above, you need to map to buttons yourself
(assuming you want to use them)

In practice this means every function is available, without the need for
JP1 and without the need for learning.
post #42 of 394
Just wanted to thank whomever started this thread about the great remote deal at RS. I stopped at my local one and got the last 2117 they had. :)

It did a decent deal on most of my compnents. I just had to do some tweaking on a few of my components.

I found it hard to believe they didn't include the Replay Guide built in. There's no way I was going to hit menu and then Replay Guide so I learned the Replay Guide code onto the info key on the remote.

No info/display for my VCR either, so I had to learn that one.

Aspect ratio wasn't there for my widescreen TV so I had to learn that one.

Not too bad only missing one command on each of those and the learning was pretty easy.

Now two more difficult components. The 2 codes for a Zenith DVD player (DVB-318) don't cut the mustard. One does nothing and the other one works partially but the cursor keys don't work so I'll either have to learn them or wait until I get my JP1 cable (see next component)

Now for my AV receiver (Outlaw 950). No code, and nothing in the search library built in. So I'll definitely need the JP1 cable to properly do this one.

Other than that, a great remote. My only minor complaint is the placement of the key blocks. Since I mostly use the cursor keys, guide stuff, IR/QS it isn't too bad. I just wish it wasn't such a stretch down to the transport keys which I use fairly often also.
I'll see if I get accustomed to it quickly. Otherwise I may move my transport keys up closer to the others I use most.
post #43 of 394
I will be happy if I can find a direct input for my Bedroom and Den TV's. Punch thru Volume would be great as well.

Dave, from Hartford. :-)

Quote:
Originally posted by Wayno
Just wanted to thank whomever started this thread about the great remote deal at RS. I stopped at my local one and got the last 2117 they had. :)

It did a decent deal on most of my compnents. I just had to do some tweaking on a few of my components.

I found it hard to believe they didn't include the Replay Guide built in. There's no way I was going to hit menu and then Replay Guide so I learned the Replay Guide code onto the info key on the remote.

No info/display for my VCR either, so I had to learn that one.

Aspect ratio wasn't there for my widescreen TV so I had to learn that one.

Not too bad only missing one command on each of those and the learning was pretty easy.

Now two more difficult components. The 2 codes for a Zenith DVD player (DVB-318) don't cut the mustard. One does nothing and the other one works partially but the cursor keys don't work so I'll either have to learn them or wait until I get my JP1 cable (see next component)

Now for my AV receiver (Outlaw 950). No code, and nothing in the search library built in. So I'll definitely need the JP1 cable to properly do this one.

Other than that, a great remote. My only minor complaint is the placement of the key blocks. Since I mostly use the cursor keys, guide stuff, IR/QS it isn't too bad. I just wish it wasn't such a stretch down to the transport keys which I use fairly often also.
I'll see if I get accustomed to it quickly. Otherwise I may move my transport keys up closer to the others I use most.
post #44 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by Wayno
I found it hard to believe they didn't include the Replay Guide built in. There's no way I was going to hit menu and then Replay Guide so I learned the Replay Guide code onto the info key on the remote.

No info/display for my VCR either, so I had to learn that one.

Aspect ratio wasn't there for my widescreen TV so I had to learn that one.

Not too bad only missing one command on each of those and the learning
was pretty easy.
I suggest you read up on the previous few posts. Many times there are
a lot more IR functions available than the ones that come default when
you select the device #. These are called "advanced" codes.

All you need to do is perform a "Keymove" and the function is available,
so basically the IR function is available, it just hasn't been mapped to a
button yet.

You should save learning for just those functions which you absolutely
need it for. The reason is 2-fold. You are going to run out of learning
memory after around 20-30 learned buttons. If you ever need to
recreate your remote setup, it is far easier to enter the keymoves
than dig up your old remote and relearn the buttons.

It's up to you how you want to set the remote up and whatever works
is fine, but those are my suggestions to get a better experience.

You can get a list of the advanced codes available here:
http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/codes.shtml
post #45 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
Looks like the 2116 is still up on the web site too, so I guess it's not going away. But they still want $32 for it! Alan... I don't think you use the RF base station anymore, do you? If you want one of these 2117s to use as a 2116, I'll bring one downtown to my office for you this week. I really do not need four of these things lying around.
Thanks for that very kind offer, Peter, but I have 3 unopened 2116 in boxes waiting for the others to break (which just never seems to happen) ;)
post #46 of 394
Yep... That's why I bought the 2117s. I figure my current supply should last through the end of this decade and I'm confident they will accomodate whatever AV additions I can afford in the meantime.

Frankly, as long as I keep the same remote, my wife probably wouldn't even notice when I buy a new TV and / or receiver.
post #47 of 394
Thread Starter 
Hell, I got another one. That makes Five.

note: this is for two apts: one big, one small

It's a remote community!

these things are sort of like wireless bridges for remotes. I might as well have a unified system.

I might even get one of those IR receivers--->X10 RF signal things. then I can controll all AV equipment and all X10 from the same remote.

I'd do this by making a tunnel from the 2117's IR Blaster to the IR receiver--->X10 devices.

Wonder how all of that would work out.
post #48 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by plyons10
Frankly, as long as I keep the same remote, my wife probably wouldn't even notice when I buy a new TV and / or receiver.
You made me LOL at that one ;)
post #49 of 394
Anyone with an abunance of these puppies want to sell one? If so send me a PM. This might be a better solution than the $30 replay remotes... better if someone will part with one. =)

I like the idea of the "wife never knowing" about equipment changes. That's funny, I gotta try it!
post #50 of 394
Jeff... I sent you a PM.

But I will tell you here that the 2117, while a great bargain and one of the best universal remotes I've ever used, is not actually as comfortable to use as the Replay remote!

In fact, last month my wife was going through the "remote control drawer" and pulled out the OEM 5K remote I had stashed in there. She loved it immediately, and I then went about JP1'ing the thing to control volume and power on my receiver instead of the TV so she could use it for everyday browsing instead of the 2117.

In her case especially, the smaller form factor and more clearly marked keys are a big plus over the 2117.
post #51 of 394
Definitely sounds like my wife as well. She'd rather sit with 3-4 discrete remotes for all the devices than 1 universal.
post #52 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by GooberedUp
Definitely sounds like my wife as well. She'd rather sit with 3-4 discrete remotes for all the devices than 1 universal.
Yeah.. but in this case it's not spousal obstinance, but just small hands!
post #53 of 394
Ah, it's for sure the former in my case.

I'm certainly not married to a tech-aficianado.
post #54 of 394
I found the last 2117 in my area as well... and I had to deal with 'that' RS employee that tried to talk me out of the purchase because I wasn't 'smart enough'. "Why do you want this remote, specifically? You'd be better off with this one..."

I'm a fan of universal remotes, and I'm seriously considering learning all about JP1 in order to use this device to its fullest. I have 3 replays, and 2 of them are stacked on top of each other. Currently, I point my Replay remote straight up in the air to turn on 1 Replay. I press power again to turn that one off/turn the other on.

I have no experience with macros or anything, but it all sounds interesting.
post #55 of 394
Well... there's one of these remote threads at this Forum about every 4 months. Each time, at least a dozen new people jump on the JP1 bandwagon. And with good reason.

I personally don't use many of the true "power" features of JP1 and the 2117, like advanced macros or device extenders. You could, for instance, program the SHIFT+DVD key to put all your components (receiver, DVD player, and TV) into the right mode to watch a DVD. We prefer on that rare occasion to do it manually.

But even if you don't enable any functionality on the remote with JP1 that you couldn't achieve via conventional programming, the JP1 stuff is very useful. It gives you a concise flexible user interface to setting up devices on the remote and a way to save that setup or clone it to another remote. That could take so much more time if you were to attempt it manually.
post #56 of 394
Let's all give a hand to sfhub who's been giving great advice on this (and many others) thread. THANKS sfhub!
post #57 of 394
indeed, thank you!
post #58 of 394
I've thanked him profusely in the past (and do so now) and I think it goes without saying that this guy is a god when it comes to so many of these issues that we read about on a daily basis. It's pretty uncanny how he's right there with the suggestions and answers.
post #59 of 394
appreciate it.
post #60 of 394
Quote:
Originally posted by sfhub
In practice this means every function is available, without the need for
JP1 and without the need for learning.
Yeah, but who wants to miss out on all the fun that can be had using JP1??? :)
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