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post #121 of 1154
MarketingProf, if you used s-video output does that mean the SA8300HD has simultaneous component and s-video outputs now?
post #122 of 1154
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Originally posted by Joxer
MarketingProf, if you used s-video output does that mean the SA8300HD has simultaneous component and s-video outputs now?

It works for me. I switched between inputs on my plasma and the signal was always present via the component or s-video feed. So, I guess the answer is yes.
post #123 of 1154
The answer is definitely yes - see the attachment I posted on the previous page. Clearly says that S-Video is always active in the manual.
post #124 of 1154
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Originally posted by EricScott
The answer is definitely yes - see the attachment I posted on the previous page. Clearly says that S-Video is always active in the manual.

Thats great news since the biggest limitation of the SA8000HD is that it disables the composite and svideo outputs in HD mode. I hope more cables systems upgrade to the SA8300HD as soon as possible. Does anyone in a Passport market have the SA8300HD yet?
post #125 of 1154
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Originally posted by Ash Sharma
OK I had called TWC this weekend and they told me that they have 8300 and I should go to a store and pick it up.
I went to the store this morning and was told that the 8300 and 8400 (did not know the 8400 ever existed) are in the warehouse and have not been released. They took any number and told me that they will call me as soon or the Units are released.

Please post back and let me know when you recieve one of these, i am dying to use dvi on my tv for something other than my computer (which i hardly ever use)
post #126 of 1154
OK my 8300 has begun to Not record scheduled recording the red recording indicator come on and it shows up on the recorded list until the recording is over. then its gone from the list.
also whether live TV or something i am recording i can not rewind it like i used to anyone have any ideas?
post #127 of 1154
Thread Starter 
Ken:
Is the disc full perhaps?
post #128 of 1154
nope 7% used on the disc. Called customer service have a service call for Tuesday. plus a credited the pvr for the month.
post #129 of 1154
Common problem with the 8000 after the disk has been full. Even after clearing the disk, the problem will remain. To fix, turn off the unit. Unplug the power cable for 30 seconds. Hold and continue holding the power button while plugging in the AC power cord, until the after the unit boots and begins loading the data (about 15 seconds). Wait for the unit to download all the software and the clock to come back on (about 2 min) before turning on the unit.

vegggas
post #130 of 1154
Since last night, I'm having exactly the same problem as Ken Greene with my 8300HD. Here's what I posted to the [Cable] and [Explorer8000] Yahoogroups:

My 8300HD, which has worked nearly perfectly since I got it a couple of months ago, has now decided that it doesn't want to let me schedule any more recordings. There are four shows left in the upcoming recordings list, and when I select additional one-time or repeating recordings from the guide, it lets me go through the motions but the program in the guide doesn't change color and the show doesn't appear in the "upcoming recordings" list.

I rebooted it with the three finger salute (Vol+/Vol-/Info) twice without any change.

Has anyone else had this problem, and what did you have to do to fix it? It plays what it recorded just fine, and it did record a movie last night at about midnight. The hard disk is just over 50% full.

Might this be another daylight savings time glitch? I still remember the one that took down the 8000HD last March.

VEGGGAS: I can try the procedure you described, but you didn't state if it would cause all recordings to be lost. Does your procedure include a format, or must it follow a format?

Thanks!

--- Uwe (TWAustin/SARA)
post #131 of 1154
No, it does not erase any programs. It puts SA boxes in a dumb state until they can fully download all the software and re-initialize the box. It will then redownload the guide data too as each guide area is hit.
I've seen this problem after a hard drive has become full and sort of locked the recording buffers.

vegggas
post #132 of 1154
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Originally posted by vegggas
No, it does not erase any programs. It puts SA boxes in a dumb state until they can fully download all the software and re-initialize the box. It will then redownload the guide data too as each guide area is hit.
I've seen this problem after a hard drive has become full and sort of locked the recording buffers.
vegggas

Thanks for replying. I got home from work and verified the box still wouldn't let me select any programs. So I followed the procedure you outlined -- took about 5 minutes and now the box works again! I was able to re-enter all the repeating recordings and now they turn red in the guide and appear in the "Scheduled Recordings" list. I did not lose any of my existing recordings.

I really do wonder if this is caused by the disk filling up. I have it set to auto-delete the oldest recording (even if not expired) and always have several movies that are eligible for deletion. So in theory, the box should never fill up, but given the quality of the software, I guess it could happen.

Thanks again!
post #133 of 1154
Now if only I can get my hands on one, so I can really test it out and write up a review on it like the 3250 and 8000 earlier....
Looks like January for Cox to deploy them around here...

I wonder if Ken Green did this to fix his box or if he let the cable co come out and swap out it out?

vegggas
post #134 of 1154
nope i didn't do anything yet and the last two days it has been workig flawlessly. so well that when the tech called to confirm him coming by lastnight i canceled him.
post #135 of 1154
We just got these in Toronto. SARA 1.85.11.5...

It seems they *still* havent fixed the kick-out bug when timeslipping!!! Man I cant believe its still not fixed!
post #136 of 1154
kromkamp:

Thanks for the heads up. I asked Rogers about the 8300 and got no response from their web site. Guess I'll call in and check it out. I want to replace the 8000HD and understand the 8300 is better in most respects, including having simultaneious SD output.

Can you confirm any of this?

TIA.
post #137 of 1154
kromkamp:

I called Rogers and they said they don't have the 8300HD yet because of shipping delays from SA. Do you actually have one?
post #138 of 1154
I can confirm that I have one (picked one up from the main outlet at 333 Bloor), and that it has correctly working simultaneous SD/HD output.

Once I get a chance to watch some HD ABC or CBS I'll be able to tell if the picture is more detailed than our 8000HD boxes were.
post #139 of 1154
kromkamp:

Thanks for the info. I look forward to seeing your opinion on its PQ.
post #140 of 1154
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Originally posted by Pradeep
I dunno if anyone else has experienced this, but when I hook up the 8300 to my PT-47x54 via HDMI, the co-ax digital output no longer outputs a Dolby Digital signal. Only pro-logic. As soon as I yank the HDMI cable, DD resumes. Which makes the HDMI output on the 8300 all but useless to those with HDMI input TVs and surround receivers, at least till we get some with HDMI switching.

Here's the answer:

You need to override the setting by pressing settings button twice and to audio: digital out and select DD instead of HDMI. That will force DD audio to HDMI, Dig audio out and optical audio out.

HDMI will automatically select 2 channels if your TV does not support DD unless you do the override.

Hope this helps.
post #141 of 1154
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Originally posted by Nedtsc
Here's the answer:

You need to override the setting by pressing settings button twice and to audio: digital out and select DD instead of HDMI. That will force DD audio to HDMI, Dig audio out and optical audio out.

HDMI will automatically select 2 channels if your TV does not support DD unless you do the override.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestion, but the "Audio: Digital Out" selection is NOT in the setting menu.

BTW, for everyone else's info, this can be found on page 8 (pg14 of the pdf) here: http://www.scientificatlanta.com/exp...ed/4003986.pdf

I have complained to Time Warner every day for a week and will continue to do so until this is corrected, but my hopes are not high.

Cheers
post #142 of 1154
Mine does! You may have a different software installed.
post #143 of 1154
Nedtsc,

I *think* you answered the question I was trolling for. I'm using the 3250HD and was considering upgrading to the 8300HD simply for the HDMI out, but heard about the two-channel-over-coax issue (I'm using HDMI for video only -- coax goes to my receiver).

If I interpret your post correctly (and assuming the 8300HD's in Toronto have the most up-to-date firmware), your fix will allow me to send HDMI video to my Pio display *and* DD over coax to my receiver?

Ross
post #144 of 1154
Unfortunately my first post on AVS Forums, so can't provide direct links to websites, as such I've ommited the www from the start of website names.

Following up a bit more on the SATA port:

It is definitely a SATA II external port. This can be seen in the SATA II specs at serialata.org. Go to "Sata Technology", then "Specifications", then "CabCon Volume 2 Specification". Look at page 25 and you'll see the port that's on the back of the 8300HD.

The interesting question is whether hooking up a SATA I drive to this port will work. There is a SATA II -> SATA I cable offered by COMAX Technology at comaxtech.com. Part # 221303D should do the trick.

The u.s. distributor for COMAX is Cruz Systems at cruzsystems.com. They don't list the 221303D on their website but may offer it.

Unfortunately I don't have ready access to an external SATA I drive to test. If someone does have one handy, perhaps they can get the appropriate cable from Cruz and post results back here?

-Adam
post #145 of 1154
I spoke to Cruz last week, they don't have any plans to order any themselves, but could get them in within 8-10 weeks. That was for an order of 5 cables. I'm going to go ahead and order on Monday.
post #146 of 1154
Watch out for the correct model number, last time I checked it was the 2213C that had SATA I on one end and SATA II on the other. When you click on the link to the 221303D version, the picture it brings up still says 2213C
post #147 of 1154
It sounds like we have discussions going on again as in the humongous 8000HD thread.

I presume the 8300HD has both Passport and SARA software, just like the 8000HD. If so, people should specify what version their cable company is using. There will be differences, leading to confusion.
post #148 of 1154
kromkamp:

Based on your post, I went to Rogers on Bloor yesterday and bought one. I love the simultaneous SD output because I have a Faroudja NRS scalar, which I couldn't use with the 8000HD, but can with the 8300.

Subjectively, I find its PQ better than the 8000, but haven't done enough critical watching to say for certain. So far, I'm much happier and am returning my rental 8000HD.

There's a new recording option, from the same channel at the same time, when recording all episodes. Not as good as recording only the first showing, but a small improvement.

I've noticed the hard drive is much noisier than the 8000HD's. I hear the actuator a lot more, even when doing a channel change. When powering it on, it does the same. I wonder if it powers down after it's been idle for a while.

I read on SA's web site that the 8300 is supposed to act as a video distribution system, but don't see anything in the provided documentation. I was under the impression that you could pass a recording to another cable box located somewhere else in the house. Maybe I don't understand it correctly.

For others reading this, we have SARA in Toronto.
post #149 of 1154
Reading SA's brochure again, it appears there are different models of the 8300HD, just to confuse things. Evidently, there's one called the Multi-Room DVR, which is different from the "regular" DVR. This is the one to get for distributing recordings around your house.

I wish manufacturers would use unique model numbers to differentiate their boxes to reduce confusion for the consumer.
post #150 of 1154
Jim,

I believe that the video distribution feature goes with a new model (SA8300MR) that is not yet available (anywhere).
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