or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › Local HDTV Info and Reception › Richmond, VA - HDTV
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Richmond, VA - HDTV - Page 8

post #211 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by wittangamo
Well, I just snagged the last closeout-priced Sylvania HDTV tuner in Richmond. $99 at Sears for a floor model that had never been powered up. Hooked to a $40 indoor amplified antenna from Rat Shack, it pulls in everything but UPN from my house on Northside.

Most consumer grade (i.e., less than $100 give or take) RF amplifiers cause more problems than they are worth (this would include those included with amplified antennas). They tend to be very noisy and can cause all kinds of problems even though the signal appears to be stronger.
post #212 of 8853
I bought the antenna based on these comparos, where it beat the Silver Sensor and SquareShooter. Without the amp, it is no great shakes. With the amp, it does the job for me and the price was right.

http://www.hdtvexpert.com/Pages/antin.html

http://www.hdtvexpert.com/Pages/squareshot.htm
post #213 of 8853
Just got an updated Comcast lineup in the mail, effective 10/8. No new HD, no sign of WRLH or WTVR digital.

The only encouraging sign is shuffling some channel numbers to group them by categories and "make room for future expansion." I know they'll get around to adding some more HD eventually, though all they've done lately is increase the number of Christian and Hispanic stations.

Hope springs eternal, but it looks like nothing will change on the HD front in the next couple of months.
post #214 of 8853
Steve,
The tower that most of us are on for HD transmission is owned by Spectrasite Inc. WE are just tenants. WCVE was tasked with management of the tower since it is on their property.

Darrell Cheney
WRIC TV
post #215 of 8853
Any word on Comcast SportsNet in HD? I'd like to see the Wizards in HD. Seems like a logical addition, perhaps it will show up after the channel rearrangement (I can hope).
post #216 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Brodequin
Any word on Comcast SportsNet in HD? I'd like to see the Wizards in HD. Seems like a logical addition, perhaps it will show up after the channel rearrangement (I can hope).

Don't bet on it. Take a look at the e-mail that I sent to Comcast yesterday. I received a reply five hours later. I'm listing both my e-mail and the reply I've received.

My E-mail:

Dear Sir or Madam,

When will WTVR CBS be available in HDTV through Comcast here in Richmond? When will Comcast Sportsnet HD be available in HDTV in Richmond? Please note that the previous two channels mentioned are already broadcasting in HDTV, either in other areas or over the air. Also, WRLH Fox Richmond is currently upgrading their equipment and will be broadcasting in HDTV by the end of the month. Will Comcast be able to show their signal? Thank you for your time.

Comcast's Reply:

Dear Christopher,

Thank you for contacting Comcast Cable.

Currently, we are in negotiations with broadcasters to provide more HD
programming. At this time, we do not have a proposed launch date for
additional HD channels. Our current HD line-up consists of 10 channels,
listed as follows:

173 ESPN HD
174 In Demand HD1
175 In Demand HD2
176 Cinemax HD
177 Starz HD
178 Showtime HD
179 HBO HD
180 ABC HD
181 NBC HD
189 Discovery HD - launched 8/2/04

As further HD channels become available, we will be notifying our
customers via digital messages, bill inserts and possibly
advertisements. Please feel free to contact us if you have any more
questions.

Sincerely,

Tahirih
Comcast Customer Care Specialist

Edit: I should also note that I sent the above e-mail after talking with a Comcast Richmond technical support representative over the phone. When I asked about the local channels (WTVR and WRLH), the representative first tried to tell me that neither channel was broadcasting in HDTV, and that was why Comcast was not carrying either. When I told him that was only partially true, and that WTVR was in fact broadcasting in HDTV and WRLH will probably follow very soon, he put me on hold for a long period of time. When he came back, he said that their equipment guys were working on getting WTVR's signal straightened out (he admitted to me that they told him a bunch of technical things that he didn't understand), but he couldn't promise a date. I asked him if what the equipment guys told him sounded promising, trying to get him to speculate to a time frame. He refused, simply saying that he didn't know. He said nothing about WRLH, and told me that he was unaware of any conflict between Sinclair Broadcasting and Comcast. He did say though that he believes that Comcast would carry the HDTV signal from WRLH soon after it becomes available over the air.

I then asked him about Comcast Sportsnet HD. He again put me on hold for a few minutes while he looked up information. When he came back, he told me he couldn't acquire any information about Comcast Sportsnet HD, and suggested I try and contact the Comcast head office. He said that he was limited to certain information available in Richmond, and he told me that he wasn't even able to connect to the internet to look up information from other areas. That sounded strange, but it was obvious to me that he really couldn't help that much, so I took his advice and e-mailed Comcast, as shown above.
post #217 of 8853
Mpark and dcheney,

Hey guys, looking for some "inside info". I am a D* customer for looong time. since fall of 94. Obviously, was excited about the announcement last week about the new birds going up, and all the new local HDs they will be able to carry, starting in early 05.. Does Richmond happen to be part of the plan for the first two satellites?Any kind of inside info is appreciated.

Must say though, as a HDTIVO owner, my OTA is great, getting every station crystal clear except UPN and of course FOX, which i guess would be hard to receive seeing as how there is NO signal and I still do not get the game in H freaking D.

For all you boys who know the man at FOX, think we can get them to give us a waiver, like they can do for the O&O stations in other markerts? Not a skins fan, but wife is, not pleasant last Sunday. Got the wife screaming "wheres my HD". Not good. Yall know the drill" why the hell did you spend this much money and the damn skins game is not in HD"

Just do not trust they will be up anytime soon.
post #218 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by plenzmd1
Mpark and dcheney,

Hey guys, looking for some "inside info". I am a D* customer for looong time. since fall of 94. Obviously, was excited about the announcement last week about the new birds going up, and all the new local HDs they will be able to carry, starting in early 05.. Does Richmond happen to be part of the plan for the first two satellites?Any kind of inside info is appreciated.

Must say though, as a HDTIVO owner, my OTA is great, getting every station crystal clear except UPN and of course FOX, which i guess would be hard to receive seeing as how there is NO signal and I still do not get the game in H freaking D.

For all you boys who know the man at FOX, think we can get them to give us a waiver, like they can do for the O&O stations in other markerts? Not a skins fan, but wife is, not pleasant last Sunday. Got the wife screaming "wheres my HD". Not good. Yall know the drill" why the hell did you spend this much money and the damn skins game is not in HD"

Just do not trust they will be up anytime soon.

You know about as much as we do on Directv. This is what I do know: 4 Birds going up in next 2 years. They are planning on carrying 500 HD locals and 130-160 new HD nets. No idea when Richmond HD locals would be available. They most likely won't do an agreement until 30 days before it happens.
As far as Fox, they are working on it. That's all I know. I doubt you can get a waiver for the HD but you could try.
post #219 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by plenzmd1
Mpark and dcheney,

Hey guys, looking for some "inside info". I am a D* customer for looong time. since fall of 94. Obviously, was excited about the announcement last week about the new birds going up, and all the new local HDs they will be able to carry, starting in early 05.. Does Richmond happen to be part of the plan for the first two satellites?Any kind of inside info is appreciated.

Must say though, as a HDTIVO owner, my OTA is great, getting every station crystal clear except UPN and of course FOX, which i guess would be hard to receive seeing as how there is NO signal and I still do not get the game in H freaking D.

For all you boys who know the man at FOX, think we can get them to give us a waiver, like they can do for the O&O stations in other markerts? Not a skins fan, but wife is, not pleasant last Sunday. Got the wife screaming "wheres my HD". Not good. Yall know the drill" why the hell did you spend this much money and the damn skins game is not in HD"

Just do not trust they will be up anytime soon.

Even if you could get the waiver, you still would not be able to get FOX in HD. Directv right now is only carrying CBS East and West in HD on Channels 80 and 81. The rest of the networks are in the standard Directv format.

I too am looking forward to the new birds as I have the network waivers and automatically get the additional network offerings.
post #220 of 8853
after you applied for the waiver you still have to wait at least 45 days for them to answer a BIG NO!! been there , done that, don't waste your time.

Oh, yes!! FOX NFL game in HD , the Hampton road folks were viewing Redskins game in gorgeous HD format on 43-1 OTA , BIG YESS!!
post #221 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by docchak
after you applied for the waiver you still have to wait at least 45 days for them to answer a BIG NO!! been there , done that, don't waste your time.

Oh, yes!! FOX NFL game in HD , the Hampton road folks were viewing Redskins game in gorgeous HD format on 43-1 OTA , BIG YESS!!

mpark and others, thanks for the reply.

I was thinking maybe FOX would let D* show only the HD signal for the games, not all of the regular nighttime lineup. I would think this is the local affilates call.Know its a longshot, but might give them a call anyway and see whats up. Can never hurt to ask eh?
post #222 of 8853
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by plenzmd1
mpark and others, thanks for the reply.

I was thinking maybe FOX would let D* show only the HD signal for the games, not all of the regular nighttime lineup. I would think this is the local affilates call.Know its a longshot, but might give them a call anyway and see whats up. Can never hurt to ask eh?


The locals don't want you watching non-local version of their telecasts at all if you can get a local signal at all, be it analog or digital. Remember, if you're watching a national feed instead of a local feed, that's a viewer that the locals can't count for their ratings, which determine local ad rates.
post #223 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Steve13
The locals don't want you watching non-local version of their telecasts at all if you can get a local signal at all, be it analog or digital. Remember, if you're watching a national feed instead of a local feed, that's a viewer that the locals can't count for their ratings, which determine local ad rates.

Hey Steve, a fella can hope, right. Doesnt affect me as much as I am a bills fan, and they stink so bad doubt they will be deemed worthy of an hd crew at all this year, lol.

Also steve, did want to mention to you that ABC has been perfect for me for at least the last two weeks on the HDTIVO. Dont know if others with the box have seen the same results? If so , just wanted to give you a heads up for your mini reviews of the STBs.

Have a great weekend all.
post #224 of 8853
I have a new adventure into ATI HDTV to watch and record free OTA HDTV off the air onto the PC. I have to tell you this 8-1 is the channel that is smooth and rock solid no A/V dropout whatsoever. 12-1 and 25-1 still has minor stuttering, I know, I know, it could be the problem with the ATI HDTV wonder, because the PQ looks OK on HDTIVO for all.
post #225 of 8853
Antennaweb.org isn't helping me with their information for frequency assigned. I'm manually putting in numbers for my retired E*6000 to see if it will pickup any digital stations from Richmond that my D* Samsung 360 isn't receiving. Specifically, as I've posted before, the 360 will not lock on 6.1, so this is my effort to determine if it's the 360 or my reception. I'm getting 75% - 85% readings with the 6000 (not to shabby for an amplified CM4248 at 65 miles or so). I'm changing to the Antennas Direct DB8 in another week when I move it to the top of my roof, which will give me another 20' or so. Can anyone fill in the blanks?

22 -
25 -
32 - 29.1 Charlottesville
42-
44-
46-
54-
post #226 of 8853
22 - 8.1, 8.2 Richmond
25 - 6.1 Richmond
32 - 29.1 Charlottesville
42 - 23.1 Richmond
44 - 44.1 Richmond
46 - 41.1 Charlottesville
54 - 12.1, 12.2, 12.3 Richmond
post #227 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Aliens
Antennaweb.org isn't helping me with their information for frequency assigned. I'm manually putting in numbers for my retired E*6000 to see if it will pickup any digital stations from Richmond that my D* Samsung 360 isn't receiving. Specifically, as I've posted before, the 360 will not lock on 6.1, so this is my effort to determine if it's the 360 or my reception. I'm getting 75% - 85% readings with the 6000 (not to shabby for an amplified CM4248 at 65 miles or so). I'm changing to the Antennas Direct DB8 in another week when I move it to the top of my roof, which will give me another 20' or so. Can anyone fill in the blanks?

22 -
25 -
32 - 29.1 Charlottesville
42-
44-
46-
54-

22- WRIC (ABC)
25- WTVR (CBS)
32-?
42- WCVE (PBS)
44- WCVW (PBS)
46-?
47- WUPV (UPN)
54- WWBT (NBC)
post #228 of 8853
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by plenzmd1


Also steve, did want to mention to you that ABC has been perfect for me for at least the last two weeks on the HDTIVO. Dont know if others with the box have seen the same results? If so , just wanted to give you a heads up for your mini reviews of the STBs.

Have a great weekend all.

Does your HDTiVo get 8-2 (ABC News)?? Mine is rock solid on all the channels, but it can't seem to tune in 8-2. My HDTivo shows two instances of 8-1 and won't find 8-2.
post #229 of 8853
Quote:


22- WRIC (ABC)
25- WTVR (CBS)
32-?
42- WCVE (PBS)
44- WCVW (PBS)
46-?
47- WUPV (UPN)
54- WWBT (NBC)

32 - WVIR (NBC)
46 - WHTJ (PBS)
post #230 of 8853
Hey, thanks guys. Just as I suspected, the E*6000 locked onto 6.1, and the D* Samsung 360 didn't. I just hope that my new positioning and antenna will compensate for 360's weakness. Thanks again for the quick responses.



WTVR, I want you to know it's WRLH's fault I can't receive your station and buy all of those wonderful products your advertisers are paying you for me to see and buy. You see, if WRLH were broadcasting in HD, I wouldn't have switched to D* ($299 new customer deal)) for the Sunday Ticket (Total Choice Premier, 4 months free, but it really cost me $50: $250), but I bought this 50 HD plasma last December and I'm not about to sit through this Redskins season watching an ANALOG signal. I was forced (three men in black cornered me - I've read about them before) to spend $550 when it would have only cost me $50 to do an E* move install, and my 6000 would have received your station. That would have saved me $500 that I could have spent on those advertisers products I spoke of earlier. What a pitythose poor advertiserswhat a pity.
post #231 of 8853
Thread Starter 
Aliens-
You do realize that if WRLH is showing a skins game, it's going to be blacked out on DirecTV, so you won't be able to get the HD signal, even with Sunday Ticket.
post #232 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Steve13
Aliens-
You do realize that if WRLH is showing a skins game, it's going to be blacked out on DirecTV, so you won't be able to get the HD signal, even with Sunday Ticket.

I'm out of the blackout zone, because at my location I'm able to get the ST. I watched the HD telecast last Sunday with great delight and anxiety toward the end.

Edit: I also receive FOX and CBS from LA/NY
post #233 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Steve13
Does your HDTiVo get 8-2 (ABC News)?? Mine is rock solid on all the channels, but it can't seem to tune in 8-2. My HDTivo shows two instances of 8-1 and won't find 8-2.


Steve, mine does that too... You have to tune in 22-4 instead of 8-2... For some reason the HDTIVO doesnt find 8-2.

Try manually entering 22-4...
post #234 of 8853
Just wanted to see if any Samsung OTA box owners have had any luck locking on to WTVR 25-1 in the last week or so after a re-scan. I can still lock on and get audio and video, but still only after a few seconds of a "No Signal" message. I haven't re-scanned in month's because I learned way back, that for some reason, once you lose it you probably won't get it back with most older Samsung boxes. This problem seemed to be storm related the first time it surfaced and after working with Don Cox at WTVR, along with support from other members, I was able to get it back. Based on that episode I'm pretty sure it's fixable. I'm not willing to take a chance on a re-scan again though unless somebody who has already lost it can get it back and post that info here. Not to hip on having to get rid of my T151 in order to get CBS if I happen to lose them again.
post #235 of 8853
WTVR-DT will not "lock" on my VOOM STB even though I am seeing a solid, steady signal of 90-93. I can "lock" WTVR-DT on my 2 year Mits RPTV, but the only channel that maps is 25-2. It used to tune to 9-1 sometime in the past. I would like this channel to lock on my VOOM STB because I am using my Mits tuner for digital cable. ???
post #236 of 8853
Addicted, I'm still having the same problem you are describing with my Samsung TS160. I don't have any problem locking on the WTVR signal when I do a channel scan, and I am able to get anywhere between 93% and 100% signal strength. However, the only thing I can see is a black screen and the "Searching for Signal" message.

This looks to be like a different problem than the one we had earlier in the year when we couldn't even lock on to the station. I don't think a channel scan will hurt but I don't think it will help either...I've done several scans in the past few weeks. (On a side note, one of those channel scans was around 11:30 one night and I was able to pick up WAVY 10-1, 10-2, and 10-3 out of Hampton Roads using just an RCA set top amplified antenna.)
post #237 of 8853
Isn't the SEC game of the week supposed to be in HD? Wonder why CBS is SD for this game.
post #238 of 8853
I still get nothing at all with WTVR-DT on my Samsung TS360. This is very frustrating. Addicted, how was Don Cox able to help?

I also picked up WAVY 10 during a scan a couple of weeks ago. Watched NBC from Norfolk with no breakups using a Silver Sensor set-top antenna. I think this happens when the signal bounces off the atmosphere, perhaps when it's very cloudy.
post #239 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Steve13
For those of you with Samsung boxes, are things with CBS 6-1 (25) any better today? I spoke with Don at WTVR and they made some changes and replaced some hardware yesterday.

I don't have a Samsung receiver, but I do have a VOOM STB w/Motorola OTA Module...WTVR-DT can not be picked up when scanning. Signal Strength displays between 90-93 and my two year old Mits RPTV w/integrated tuner picks-up WTVR without problem. So why are so many receivers having a problem? What gives WTVR-DT? Why are you the only knuckleheads having this problem? We have all posted here several times so do the research and fix the problem. Yikes!!!
post #240 of 8853
Quote:


Originally posted by Steve13
riffjim4069,
You can't really be serious can you?? Don't you think it's a bit over the top to expect that a RICHMOND station should spend many thousands of dollars to accomodate you, especially when you aren't even in Richmond!

As someone who lives in the Richmond area, I can say that NBC12 has FAR AND AWAY been the most reliable and easiest to receive of the local digital stations. I'm sure you're frustrated that you can get it, but that's certainly more of a function of where you live than any deficiency from channel 12.

Steve,

Did you actually read my post? More importantly, did you comprehend what you were reading? The operative word in that sentence was comprehend. I too live in the Richmond area and wouldn't have pointed out this problem if I didn't feel others were being affected. I see two deficiencies: WWBT-DT's antenna height and Steve!

If Steve doesn't have a problem then nobody has a problem? I see how you operate!
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Local HDTV Info and Reception
AVS › AVS Forum › HDTV › Local HDTV Info and Reception › Richmond, VA - HDTV