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post #661 of 8831
Well, folks, I agree with what we are doing only in the respect that the FCC does not know what they will do until after the station had comitted to the airing. Thats like buying a car without seeing it first and dealing with the problems after you take delivery. Who's going to do that? If you smart no one would. I own my own copy of SPR and for me I have not personal problem watching it. I am an adult and can make my own choices but when I have the Commission sitting up in Washington DC dictating that they might come down hard on stations who do air the program then I have to step back and save the interest of the station. I huge fine very well could put you out of business and no one wants to see that especially myself. So, in saying that, I hope the negative response tonight is not overwhelming as I think it will be.

Darrell Cheney
WRIC TV
post #662 of 8831
I was reading the programming thread about this situation and it seems that this maybe a political statement being made by ABC against the FCC. I didn't realize that Sen. John McCain is introducing the movie. i doubt that the FCC would fine ABC for a film that a United States Senator introduces. I find the politicall statement theory to be very interesting.
post #663 of 8831
Thats true, McCain will be introducing the film but Young decided that the FCC's non response to ABC as to what is to happen to affiliates who go with the feed, that they were not going to chance it.
The general manager stated the fact that he thought the FCC would not go up against McCain and win.

Darrell Cheney
WRIC TV
post #664 of 8831
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Originally posted by tmcck
I was reading the programming thread about this situation and it seems that this maybe a political statement being made by ABC against the FCC. I didn't realize that Sen. John McCain is introducing the movie. i doubt that the FCC would fine ABC for a film that a United States Senator introduces. I find the politicall statement theory to be very interesting.

It'll be interesting to see what happens. It is based on how many complaints they get. Not whether John McCain introduces it. As I said earlier, the F-word is used over 40 times in the movie from what I've read. The FCC said Bono saying the same word at an awards cermony on NBC was a violation but did not issue any fines because it was before the Janet Jackson fiasco.
post #665 of 8831
It's on here on the Charlottesville ABC station. At least they had some guts to show the movie. Too bad they aren't broadcasting in HD yet.
post #666 of 8831
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Originally posted by tmcck
It's on here on the Charlottesville ABC station. At least they had some guts to show the movie. Too bad they aren't broadcasting in HD yet.

It's also on the ABC National feed on Directv from NY although not in HD as Directv doesnt carry the ABC HD feed yet. They ran a waring at the beginning about the violence and language. That should have been enough. As opposed to the Janet Jackson boob incident the content was disclosed up front. It's up to parents to make the decision. WVEC-13 in Hampton Roads is owned by Belo who along with Sinclair has a weak spine.
post #667 of 8831
MPark,

What was the weird audio dropout problems on WWBT during the Apprentice? Also no ER in HD?

I expected to find a bunch of people complaining on the boards about this being a national feed problem.

BTW, for the Apprentice I was watching WWBT analog from DirecTV and switched over to the stretched 12-1 and it had the same problems (which makes sense, since you all upconvert the analog for 12-1) I wished that I had something to compare against like the network 4:3 digital feed

Thanks for the help,

Rod319
post #668 of 8831
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Originally posted by mpark
I just looked at it and it seems fine. I even did a remap on a Samsung set with a built-in tuner and it worked fine. Have you tried to rescan?

I have rescanned and did a complete reset on my Mits. WWBT still shows up as 54.2-54.4. This is the only one not remapping. I guess it is one of those mysteries.
post #669 of 8831
WCVW-DT channel 44-1 in back.
post #670 of 8831
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Originally posted by rod319
MPark,

What was the weird audio dropout problems on WWBT during the Apprentice? Also no ER in HD?

I expected to find a bunch of people complaining on the boards about this being a national feed problem.

BTW, for the Apprentice I was watching WWBT analog from DirecTV and switched over to the stretched 12-1 and it had the same problems (which makes sense, since you all upconvert the analog for 12-1) I wished that I had something to compare against like the network 4:3 digital feed

Thanks for the help,

Rod319

We had network audio issues internally. It should be fixed now. Sorry for any problems.
post #671 of 8831
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Originally posted by brcobb
I have rescanned and did a complete reset on my Mits. WWBT still shows up as 54.2-54.4. This is the only one not remapping. I guess it is one of those mysteries.

I'll double check our PSIP tables again and get back to you.
post #672 of 8831
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Originally posted by mpark

I'll double check our PSIP tables again and get back to you.

It isn't a big deal for me, since I am not recording. I just wanted to pass the info on in case any one else was seeing the same thing.

Thanks for all your dedication.
post #673 of 8831
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Originally posted by wahoo246
WCVW-DT channel 44-1 in back.


Is it HDTV now?
post #674 of 8831
I'm in Chesterfield county and am planning on adding a 2nd HDTV monitor to replace one of my sets. I do not wish to have Comcast HDTV as they want me to get the digital package. Is their HDTV stream encrypted or can it be viewed by one of the QAM tuners such as the LG LST-4200A? Thanks
post #675 of 8831
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Is it HDTV now?

WCVW - DT (44.1) is not in HD since coming back on the air. At least they weren't last night.
post #676 of 8831
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Originally posted by oakenshld
Michael,

OK. It looks like it is solved. I went to Radio Shack at lunch and bought an in-line antenna.

http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D1170

I was just hedging my bets that a completely unamplified system over 100+ ft would be too weak. I was right, but barely. Unamplified I was getting all stations exept 23 (42) that was around 55-62% and experiencing dropouts.

I hooked up the inline amp to the short run of cable from the antenna on the roof that was inside the attic, and because I dont have a DC pass on the ANT side of my diplexer, I hooked up the power inserter right after it to carry it down the line before the 1st diplexer. (I will go back to RS to get a diplexer that carries DC through the ANT side this week, and put the power inserter at the TV where it is supposed to be...maybe even better results!).

Anyway. Now I am getting all stations at 83-93% with no dropouts so far (1 hour 21 min) although it takes 54 and 22 about 10 seconds to 'catch', but after that its smooth sailin'. So that seems to have been the problem...a little too much amplifications and possibly too much noise.

Let me know how your ordeal goes.

Oak

I moved my antenna outside today. I was actually able to mount it about 7 feet over screened in porch on the gable end so you can't see it from the front of my house. I live in Woodlake and don't know how folks would react to an antenna strapped to the chimney.
Bottom line is, I was able to get all local channels tuned in exceptionally well except for 65-1. I gained at least 10db from what I can tell and no multipath issues.
Oak, did you ground your antenna? It is very important you do this. I was able to do it with a couple extra parts from Radio Shack & Home Depot. I do have an amplifier which I have kept inline and it helps.
post #677 of 8831
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Originally posted by mpark
I moved my antenna outside today. I was actually able to mount it about 7 feet over screened in porch on the gable end so you can't see it from the front of my house. I live in Woodlake and don't know how folks would react to an antenna strapped to the chimney.
Bottom line is, I was able to get all local channels tuned in exceptionally well except for 65-1. I gained at least 10db from what I can tell and no multipath issues.
Oak, did you ground your antenna? It is very important you do this. I was able to do it with a couple extra parts from Radio Shack & Home Depot. I do have an amplifier which I have kept inline and it helps.

Mike, where did you terminate your ground wire? It is very important to run the copper ground wire to the electrical service ground and terminate it there only. This will help prevent ground loop currents between two separate ground points. Also critical for a direct lightning strike do not run the wire against or through the house itself. Best way is to bury it using insulated (green) solid copper wire.
post #678 of 8831
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Originally posted by hjriver
Mike, where did you terminate your ground wire? It is very important to run the copper ground wire to the electrical service ground and terminate it there only. This will help prevent ground loop currents between two separate ground points. Also critical for a direct lightning strike do not run the wire against or through the house itself. Best way is to bury it using insulated (green) solid copper wire.

It is hooked up to my electrical service ground. I have my Directv Dish and this antenna tied into the same ground. It was fairly easy. I just know how important it is. Thanks for the pointer.
post #679 of 8831
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Originally posted by mpark
I moved my antenna outside today. I was actually able to mount it about 7 feet over screened in porch on the gable end so you can't see it from the front of my house. I live in Woodlake and don't know how folks would react to an antenna strapped to the chimney.
Bottom line is, I was able to get all local channels tuned in exceptionally well except for 65-1. I gained at least 10db from what I can tell and no multipath issues.
Oak, did you ground your antenna? It is very important you do this. I was able to do it with a couple extra parts from Radio Shack & Home Depot. I do have an amplifier which I have kept inline and it helps.

Michael,

That's great about the install. The truth is, my antenna is not grounded.

I need to do this. Mine is the Winegard SS1000, so its a plastic housing on a 'dish' type mount. I also have Dish Network and I honestly dont think that the installer grounded that. I went in the attic and saw where the ground wire for the dish network was connected to an inside coupler screw head, but the coupler itself was just screwed into one of the rafters in the attic.

I need to figure out where to ground the dish coupler, and then ground the SS to the same thing, only thing is, I dont know how...do I ground the Diplexer that both are coming into, will that take care of them both..do I fasten a copper wire to the 'dish' nount of the SS and ground that?

Anyone out there with ideas I would greatly appreciate it. I am good with electronics to a point, but electricity is a whole differnet animal.

And dont bother with UPN right now, until they go HD for Enterprise etc, it is not very compelling content if you ask me.

Oak
post #680 of 8831
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Originally posted by oakenshld
And dont bother with UPN right now, until they go HD for Enterprise etc, it is not very compelling content if you ask me.

Oakenshld - so you are one of the few close enough to WUPV's 9kW transmission to actually pick it up... and you say they are not relaying HD feed from the UPN Network?
post #681 of 8831
I think with a decent antenna set-up, you should be able to get WUPV-DT. I hear a lot of folks can't...

I'm unaware if they are doing HD...

post #682 of 8831
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Originally posted by VARTV
I think with a decent antenna set-up, you should be able to get WUPV-DT.

Wow, this is even based on BDSTA-20021118ACU (their interim 9kW feed). I am well within the circle (Smoketree area on Southside), but can't get squat for signal strenght. Unless your definition of decent antenna setup is a 180" boom on a 40 foot mast in my backyard, I think I've exausted most of my options :-) I would love to hear if anyone south of the James is actually receiving them (and if there is true HD content on the station).
post #683 of 8831
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Originally posted by VARTV
I think with a decent antenna set-up, you should be able to get WUPV-DT. I hear a lot of folks can't...

I'm unaware if they are doing HD...


I'm well within that blue area and can't even get a blip out of them. That is really low power. It seems they are doing the basic requirement for now.
post #684 of 8831
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Originally posted by mpark
I'm well within that blue area and can't even get a blip out of them. That is really low power. It seems they are doing the basic requirement for now.

They're at 9.2kW BUT only 292' up. The only low-powered DT here in Hampton Roads is Sinclair's WTVZ. They're doing just 8kW but are 1182' up over flat terrain. I had no problem getting them with a cheap $10 RS UHF antenna but I did need to turn it just right...
post #685 of 8831
I can receive WFXR-DT, 1956' above the average terrain at 2.97 kW, but not WDRL-DT, 321' above the average terrain at 6.94 kW.

Height is much more important than power.

- Trip
post #686 of 8831
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Originally posted by elroy_1666
Oakenshld - so you are one of the few close enough to WUPV's 9kW transmission to actually pick it up... and you say they are not relaying HD feed from the UPN Network?

No. Not that I have ever seen. I live on Mountain Road near Crump Park. So about 3-4 miles tops from the UPN DTV tower. I have been able to get 47 (65-1) since day one of my setup.
post #687 of 8831
Sorry folks about the half screen crash. As far as I am aware from the network and Andrew(who supports the ABC HD systems) this half screen occasional crash is something that they categorize as "just happens" and "when it does just power reset the demod". That is the answer I get when I tell them what is happening. I have had many replacement demods and decoders to no avail. The system still does it. WE have been resetting the unit when it happens. The pain about it is that the receive gear is located on the other side of the building from our master control so it takes several minutes to get over there, reset it, and wait for it to come back up before taking it back to air. So I am sorry for the several minute upconversion of the MNF game near the end of 3rd quarter and beginning of 4th quarter.


Darrell Cheney
Chief Engineer
WRIC TV
post #688 of 8831
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Originally posted by oakenshld
No. Not that I have ever seen. I live on Mountain Road near Crump Park. So about 3-4 miles tops from the UPN DTV tower. I have been able to get 47 (65-1) since day one of my setup.

Would it be possible for you to confirm this? I mean, would it be convenient for you to check on Friday night and see if Enterprise is in HD or not?

I just don't see why they would be upconverting without passing through HD. Just doesn't seem right.

- Trip
post #689 of 8831
I got UPN from Hampton road (27-1). I agree it does not make sense, for some episode of StarTrek Enterprise will be in full HD and some is not. It's awesome when it is in HD.
post #690 of 8831
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Originally posted by docchak
I got UPN from Hampton Roads (27-1). I agree it does not make sense, for some episode of StarTrek Enterprise will be in full HD and some is not. It's awesome when it is in HD.

Don't quote me here but I believe any reruns on WGNT-DT/50 (27-1) are not shown in HD...

docchak, you're in a good location to receive both Richmond and HR stations. If you get WGNT, you should be able to get the rest (except for WTVZ-DT/38, 33-2)...
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