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post #1651 of 2902
gcrawford,

any update on PBS? They haven't replied to my email from Tuesday yet.
post #1652 of 2902
Back on the air as of sometime last night. Looks like they're passing the analog signal through their digital channel.
post #1653 of 2902
Thanks, Trip. Also I have heard that some stations broadcasting their analog and digital on adjacent channels use the same antenna, not just same tower but same antenna. Is this true? Does this have any negative effect on the signal?
post #1654 of 2902
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Originally Posted by aa72dallas View Post

Thanks, Trip. Also I have heard that some stations broadcasting their analog and digital on adjacent channels use the same antenna, not just same tower but same antenna. Is this true? Does this have any negative effect on the signal?

Yes, it does occur. The biggest problem is that sometimes an antenna can only handle so much power. For example, one of my local stations (co-owned with WZDX, actually) is using the same antenna for analog and digital, but can't go to full power until the analog goes away.

However, some antennas will handle it just fine. It generally doesn't have any noticeable impact on coverage, at least as far as I'm aware. You might want to ask someone who works with the stuff. I just look at FCC filings.

- Trip
post #1655 of 2902
For the TVGOS users,

I reconnected my antenna yesterday and it is getting VBI packets off of Ch. 25 (standard defintion PBS), but I am not getting any packets off any of the digitals, or even off the PBS ch. 10 on comcast, so if someone can verify this that'd be great, because it might be a comcast problem now.

Last night about 3 days of guide info filled in. Now I have to figure out what to do with the HD Homerun I ordered
post #1656 of 2902
If you guys really want TVGOS after the transition date, you had better call and complain to WHNT. APT has already told the FCC that they'll be killing their analogs on 02/17/09, and most PBS stations are not carrying TVGOS digitally now or after the transition, the deals are with mainly CBS stations now.

- Trip
post #1657 of 2902
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

If you guys really want TVGOS after the transition date, you had better call and complain to WHNT. APT has already told the FCC that they'll be killing their analogs on 02/17/09, and most PBS stations are not carrying TVGOS digitally now or after the transition, the deals are with mainly CBS stations now.

- Trip

Yea, that's another reason I got the HD Homerun on the way just in case TVGOS dies here like it probably will in most markets that CBS doesn't grab the reins.

I shot an email over to WHNT to see if I can get some information. I'll post if I get a response.
post #1658 of 2902
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Originally Posted by justinrw View Post

For the TVGOS users,

I reconnected my antenna yesterday and it is getting VBI packets off of Ch. 25 (standard defintion PBS), but I am not getting any packets off any of the digitals, or even off the PBS ch. 10 on comcast, so if someone can verify this that'd be great, because it might be a comcast problem now.

Last night about 3 days of guide info filled in. Now I have to figure out what to do with the HD Homerun I ordered

Given that information, and the digital switch delayed to June 12th, I'm going to try switching back to our fiber analog feed for Knology channel 10 (WHIQ) and see what happens.

Feedback is appreciated.........

-g
post #1659 of 2902
After changing to the analog fiber feed yesterday, I now have TVGuideOS information on my tv at home. I guess I'll leave it this way until WHIQ can verify that the data is present on the digital feed.

-g
post #1660 of 2902
Is anyone having problems with PBS? Most of the my recordings have drop outs and stuttering problems like a week signal, or bad weather on a dish. My SS is about 85. Could it be multipath or is PBS the problem?
post #1661 of 2902
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Originally Posted by klyde View Post

Is anyone having problems with PBS? Most of the my recordings have drop outs and stuttering problems like a week signal, or bad weather on a dish. My SS is about 85. Could it be multipath or is PBS the problem?

does it happen on all the pbs channels or just the main one?
post #1662 of 2902
I only record regularly This Old House hour. The last 2 times it happened.
Yesterday I re aimed the antenna a little to the side. It has always been 25.1
I will know more the next time it gets recorded tonight.
post #1663 of 2902
Hey gcrawford, my TVGOS filled in for a few days around Wednesday/Thursday, but as of last night, I've got the dreaded "no listings" on my old panasonic analog dvr and my new sony digital TV. Guess PBS has dropped something again. I didn't have a chance to thank you before for your help, but I do want you to know I appreciate your efforts.
I've enjoyed Knology for a lot of years, but with the recent rate increases, it's going to be difficult to go with a rental dvr anytime soon.
post #1664 of 2902
Oops, I hadn't checked in a few hours, but now TVGOS on Knology is back again. This may get old, but dang-it, TVGOS is just so handy!
post #1665 of 2902
I've followed this forum for a long time and really appreciate all the helpful info posted, especially the efforts to keep us up to date with DirectTV and local channel reception. I have 2 HD-DVR, an HR20-700 and HR21-700 with the DIRECTV® AM21 Off-Air Tuner hooked to the second. I am in Decatur and can always receive 19 and 31, but I must change the direction of my indoor antenna to receive 54, and I have never picked up 48 until today for the Super Bowl. I got a good picture for NBC with minimal dropout for the first time. I was wondering if perhaps 48 amped up their transmission a little early. I should add that I can get a good HD transmission if I bypass the AM21 and hook the antenna up directly into the TV, but of course I lose the ability to Tivo the program. Thanks for any input. Don
post #1666 of 2902
TVGOS seems to be hanging in for the moment. The one thing I've notices is that although the shows are listed, there's no content shown for any of the shows that you click on. But at least I can search and program!
post #1667 of 2902
Does anyone know (Trip ?) what the H'ville stations will do if congress approves a delay of the 2/17/09 analog cutoff? I have read that in some areas the stations will go ahead with the switch, i.e. Nashville. It would seem the expense of keeping both signals would be a good reason to cutoff the analog signal. What about Chattanooga?
post #1668 of 2902
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Originally Posted by baker60 View Post

Does anyone know (Trip ?) what the H'ville stations will do if congress approves a delay of the 2/17/09 analog cutoff? I have read that in some areas the stations will go ahead with the switch, i.e. Nashville. It would seem the expense of keeping both signals would be a good reason to cutoff the analog signal. What about Chattanooga?

I have a full list on my site: http://www.rabbitears.info/termlist.php

They're alphabetical by state, then in just whatever order for cities.

- Trip
post #1669 of 2902
Since my family and I don't watch that much tv, I'm thinking about completely dropping the dish and buying an antenna. However, I'm concerned that my reception will not be very good since antennaweb lists my location as 61-63 miles from the transmitters in Huntsville. I live on the east side of Muscle Shoals....I mainly want WAFF, WHNT, WAAY, and PBS. It's a no-go for the wife if I can't get all major networks. Is there anyone in this area that can get these....also, your antenna setup would be a big help too. THanks.
post #1670 of 2902
For the DirecTV subscribers around here, what numbers are you getting for the CONUS Ka sats (99c & 103c)? Mine are peaking out at the uper 60's. I'm wondering if I need to get my dish realigned.
post #1671 of 2902
gcrawford is in the Florence area and can lend a great hand... I believe he has the 8-bay Channel-Master... how is your elevation and any trees/obstructions headed East?
post #1672 of 2902
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Originally Posted by Andrew Hornfeck View Post

gcrawford is in the Florence area and can lend a great hand... I believe he has the 8-bay Channel-Master... how is your elevation and any trees/obstructions headed East?

Maybe you're thinking of someone else. I'm in Monrovia and a proud Knology subscriber!
post #1673 of 2902
Taz is the one you are probably thinking of he, lives close to Florence somewhere down near Shoals Creek area. I am about 10 miles north of Taz and receive all the OTA channels with a channel master on a 50' tower...I needed the tower due to large trees obstructing my antenna viewing area. I am about 60 miles from the Huntsville Towers but close enough to the CW tower that I have no problem picking that statation up with the power it is putting out.. WAFF has been granted a license to triple its power, that station had the lowest power of all the main network stations.

You should really visit Trip in VA site "Rabbitears" a little searching and you will find all the information you need even coverage maps of the TV stations after the big switch to digital.
post #1674 of 2902
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Originally Posted by gcrawford View Post

Maybe you're thinking of someone else. I'm in Monrovia and a proud Knology subscriber!

OOPS.... ...and YES, it's Taz I was thinking of. Thanks
post #1675 of 2902
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Originally Posted by Andrew Hornfeck View Post

... how is your elevation and any trees/obstructions headed East?


538 ft. above sea level and some LARGE oak trees (>40feet tall) around my neighbor's house directly to the east (~100 yards away). Beyond that, it's several miles of farmland.

I'm considering the Channel Master 4228HD with the 7777 on a 30ft mast. Could my neighbor's trees significantly interrupt the signals???
post #1676 of 2902
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Originally Posted by KHP123 View Post

538 ft. above sea level and some LARGE oak trees (>40feet tall) around my neighbor's house directly to the east (~100 yards away). Beyond that, it's several miles of farmland.

I'm considering the Channel Master 4228HD with the 7777 on a 30ft mast. Could my neighbor's trees significantly interrupt the signals???

Trees really only cause problems when there is moisture on the leaves. I've used the CM4228 and 7775 preamp on a 45 foot mast, and picked up everyone without problems.

I've also used the Antenna's Direct 91XG, which is a lot lighter than the CM4228, with pretty much identical reception. You may be good to go with what you are thinking of getting.

I did use a remote controlled rotator, which helps a lot for aiming the antenna, and making small adjustments when needed. Well worth the money for one. I purchased the Channel Master version.

Also, note the difference between the CM7777 and CM7775. The CM7775 is only for UHF reception, which is what you need. The CM7777 adds VHF, but you don't need that. Though, it wouldn't hurt anything.
post #1677 of 2902
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Originally Posted by taz291819 View Post

Trees really only cause problems when there is moisture on the leaves. I've used the CM4228 and 7775 preamp on a 45 foot mast, and picked up everyone without problems.

I've also used the Antenna's Direct 91XG, which is a lot lighter than the CM4228, with pretty much identical reception. You may be good to go with what you are thinking of getting.

I did use a remote controlled rotator, which helps a lot for aiming the antenna, and making small adjustments when needed. Well worth the money for one. I purchased the Channel Master version.

Also, note the difference between the CM7777 and CM7775. The CM7775 is only for UHF reception, which is what you need. The CM7777 adds VHF, but you don't need that. Though, it wouldn't hurt anything.


Great, thanks for the advice Taz! I know I can find everything I need online, but could you recommend any local shops in the Shoals area that carry these? Thanks again...
post #1678 of 2902
How do you all feel about the Government delaying the DTV switchover?

I am close enough to the towers that my reception is fine; but I wonder what all additional paperwork the FCC is going to have to deal with to delay the permits for stations like our WAFF-48 from executing their conversion to higher power transmission due to Congress's lack of foresight and ability to let decisions made years back just happen. Or will WAFF keep on truckin' and terminate their analog, boost their power and focus on their ATSC customer base as advertised, this month???
post #1679 of 2902
Mid day news on WAAY 31 said they are ready for the digital switch over and plans to proceed to switch to digital Feb. 17. There is nothing stopping any station from switching to digital on Feb. 17 so I am think that there will be alot of other station switching due to the high cost of keeping both analog and digital signals going. If there ready why not. As to WAFF It seems like they have upped there power already, at least it looks that way on the signal level I now receive is 13 points higher then before, not a good comparison using the meter on the tv but don't have a db meter to do it right.
post #1680 of 2902
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Originally Posted by KHP123 View Post

Great, thanks for the advice Taz! I know I can find everything I need online, but could you recommend any local shops in the Shoals area that carry these? Thanks again...

You can get the rotator at Lowes, I got mine from the one in Florence. Hunts Appliances sells the CM4228, or they used to.

The amp and XG91 I bought online.

Also, Lowe's sells a 30' Telescoping mast (which I used), but if they don't have it in stock, they'll order it for ya. I bought 12" under-eave extensions to mount the telescoping mast at Radioshack. I used a total of 4 mounts, and with an extra 10' extension mast, was able to hit 45', though that may have been overkill.

Note, if you do use any extra extension masts, you're going to want to use guy-wire to keep it stabilized. I purchased everything for stabilizing it at Radioshack.

If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
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