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post #6031 of 6822
I read a few earlier post about HD OTA broadcasting in S FL. I live in the NMBch area. For the record, since I set up my Sammy HDTV in April 08 and programed/searched OTA channels, I recieved HD programing on: 2,4,6,7,10,17,23,25,27,29,33,35,39,44,45,46,51,58,63,69 and others that I deleted. I got a total of 50 something analog and digital channels. Some of the channels mostly 17 and 44 came and went often.
Up until last week that is. Which is the reason for my earlier post today regarding current OTA HD reception issues? Is anyone else having OTA DTV reception problems? Oh well... my 2 cents worth. Tim
post #6032 of 6822
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Originally Posted by T24Seawind View Post

I read a few earlier post about HD OTA broadcasting in S FL. I live in the NMBch area. For the record, since I set up my Sammy HDTV in April 08 and programed/searched OTA channels, I recieved HD programing on: 2,4,6,7,10,17,23,25,27,29,33,35,39,44,45,46,51,58,63,69 and others that I deleted. I got a total of 50 something analog and digital channels. Some of the channels mostly 17 and 44 came and went often.
Up until last week that is. Which is the reason for my earlier post today regarding current OTA HD reception issues? Is anyone else having OTA DTV reception problems? Oh well... my 2 cents worth. Tim

No OTA problems at all up here in central Broward. 44 goes off once in a while, but that's them and not your set or antenna.
post #6033 of 6822
I read a news release today, seems that WLRN-DT will be launching MHz WorldView as a subchannel on Monday.

- Trip
post #6034 of 6822
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Originally Posted by cubsrock View Post

Hey Doom.....Did you get MLBHD? We did get MLB on channel 291 (I think)...but it is not in HD.

Yeah we got it in HD on launch. However in all fairness from what I'm reading, D* has a major stake in MLBHD so it was imminent. The PQ is fantastic. I recorded the first hour from the 1st. Their studio show looked fantastic. They replayed the Philly/TB WS last night.
post #6035 of 6822
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I read a news release today, seems that WLRN-DT will be launching MHz WorldView as a subchannel on Monday.

- Trip

Well, I read the news release again, it will not be on a subchannel, but rather on WLRN's cable channel. That's too bad.

- Trip
post #6036 of 6822
Any news about CNN-HD or FOX NEWS-HD from Miami Comcast????
post #6037 of 6822
For those interested this is the current HD lineup from U-verse

5StarMax HD*
A&E HD*
ATMAX*
ATMax HD*
ActionMAX*
ActionMAX HD - West*
ActionMax HD*
Animal Planet HD*
Big Ten Network HD*
Biography HD
Biography International HD
Bravo HD*
C&I HD
CNBC HD*
CNN HD*
Cinemax HD*
Cinemax HD - West*
CMT HD
Comedy HD
Discovery Channel HD*
DIS HD Disney High Definition (HD) Cable
DXDHD Disney XD High Definition (HD)
E HD*
ESPN HD*
ESPN2 HD*
ESN HD ESPN News High Definition (HD)
ESNUHD ESPN University High Definition (HD)
Encore HD*
FAM HD
FSN Florida Alternate HD*
FSN Florida HD*
FX Network HD*
Food Network HD*
Fox Business Network HD*
G4 HD*
Golf HD*
HBO Comedy HD*
HBO Family*
HBO Family HD*
HBO Family HD - West*
HBO HD*
HBO HD - West*
HBO Latino HD*
HBO Signature HD*
HBO Signature HD - West*
HBO Zone HD*
HBO Zone HD - West*
HBO2*
HBO2 HD*
HBO2 HD - West*
HD Theater*
HDNet*
HDNet Movies*
HGTV HD*
Lifetime Movie Network HD*
Lifetime Television HD*
MGM HD*
MoreMAX HD - West*
MoreMax HD*
MTV HD
NFL Network HD*
NHL Network HD*
Nick HD
National Geographic Channel HD*
Outdoor Channel HD*
OuterMax HD*
Planet Green HD*
Sci Fi Channel HD*
Science Channel HD*
Showtime Extreme HD*
Showtime HD*
Showtime HD - West*
Showtime Showcase HD*
Showtime Too HD*
Smithsonian Channel HD*
Spike HD
Starz Comedy HD*
Starz Edge*
Starz Edge HD*
Starz HD*
Starz HD - West*
Starz Kids & Family HD*
Starz inBlack*
Style HD*
Sun Sports HD*
Sun Sports HD Alternate*
TBS HD*
TMC Xtra HD*
TNT HD*
The Learning Channel HD*
The Movie Channel HD*
The Weather Channel HD*
ThrillerMAX HD - West*
ThrillerMax HD*
Travel Channel HD*
USA Network HD*
Universal HD*
VERSUS HD*
VH1 HD
WBFS-HD-33 (MY NETWORK TV)*
WFLX-HD-29 (FOX WPB)*
WFOR-HD-4 (CBS Miami)*
WGN America HD*
WHDT-LP-HD-44 (IND)*
WLRN-HD-17 (PBS)*
WMAX HD*
WPBT-HD-2 (PBS)*
WPEC-HD-12 (CBS WPB)*
WPLG-HD-10 (ABC Miami)*
WPTV-HD-5 (NBC WPB)*
WSCV-HD-51 (TEL)*
WSFL-HD-39 (THE CW)*
WSVN-HD-7 (FOX Miami)*
WTVJ-HD-6 (NBC Miami)*
Wealth TV HD*
Yes HD
post #6038 of 6822
How do you like the picture quality versus cable or sat?
post #6039 of 6822
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Originally Posted by LRZNole View Post

How do you like the picture quality versus cable or sat?

I watched a lot of HD this weekend and for 98% of the shows I really noticed no difference between my cable and U-verse. On sports a few times I noticed some motion artifacts. I am viewing on a 61" Samsung DLP 1080p set. I will also say I am not super critical about looking for every little issue with my picture or sound. So far no one in my home has noticed a picture quality difference.
post #6040 of 6822
Thanx 97Strat for the info. Found a bad connector. OTA 48 channels. DTV signals in mid to high 90s. Tim
post #6041 of 6822
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Originally Posted by JF7FSU View Post

Any news about CNN-HD or FOX NEWS-HD from Miami Comcast????

Comcast in Bkly, Ca. has CNN-HD. I watch CNN a lot both in Ca. and Aventura. I gave up watching tuning CNN-HD in Ca because very little HD is on CNN. I didn't want the 4:3 picture on my 116:9 plasma for long periods of time. Besides, news in HD is kind of a waste of resources.

...mike
post #6042 of 6822
I'm spoiled trying to read text, especially the crawl, in fuzzy SD.
post #6043 of 6822
BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.
post #6044 of 6822
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.

That's great...now if they'd only stop stretching their other local shows.
post #6045 of 6822
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.

Turned it on this morning-- picture was frozen on the weather guy, but audio was fine. Hope they get the bugs worked out.
post #6046 of 6822
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Originally Posted by Mike4HDTV View Post

BREAKING NEWS: Channel 7(WSVN) news is in HD as of 5 pm on Sunday. PQ looks very good.

Just a few comments in no particular order..

HD Graphics are simply stunning, although I think the captions (don't know if that's the correct term) under the anchors/reporters could use some improvement. I'm talking about the bars on the bottom that contain the anchor/reporter's name and a blurb about the current story, and the 7 logo in the bottom right corner with the time/temperature.

Lighting and/or makeup on the anchors seems weird. Anchors don't look as "natural" as those on WTVJ-DT.

WSVN-DT is still stretching non-HD content (as jstrazz pointed out), which is a shame. Even the 4:3 commercials are still being stretched. Sheesh!

I've heard from different sources that WPLG-DT will be going local HD around March or so, but what's happening with WFOR-DT? I haven't heard anything about them.
post #6047 of 6822
ION HD launch date somewhere in 1st Quarter 2009 according to sources. We will see..

OTA 35.1 & 67.1
post #6048 of 6822
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Originally Posted by DigitalPlayer View Post

ION HD launch date somewhere in 1st Quarter 2009 according to sources. We will see..

OTA 35.1 & 67.1

Now that would be cool, but do they have any true HD content to broadcast?

And what happens to 35.2, 35.3, 35.4 given the bandwidth requirements for 35.1? Not that we really need (or watch) those channels...
post #6049 of 6822
I just got my new Toshiba Regza 32" HDTV this week, I'm using its QAM tuner, It finds all the local channels in SD, But it can't seem to find several of the HD versions, I can only get Channel 6(WTVJ-DT), Channel 7(WSVN-DT), Channel 39(WFSLDT1), and Channel 33(WBFSDT1), I'm missing Channel 4(WFOR-DT) and Channel 10(WPLG-DT). I'm using Comcast.

Using the ATSC tuner and an antenna, I can get WFOR-DT but unable get WSVN-DT and WPLG-DT
post #6050 of 6822
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Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

Now that would be cool, but do they have any true HD content to broadcast?

And what happens to 35.2, 35.3, 35.4 given the bandwidth requirements for 35.1? Not that we really need (or watch) those channels...

Maybe will they have 35.1 ION HD, 35.2 & 35.3 QUBO/ION LIFE in a split HD schedule. Not sure what will happen with 35.4.

ION TV upgrade to HD in 1st quarter 2009.
QUBO/ION LIFE expected HD upgrade later in 2009.
post #6051 of 6822
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Originally Posted by DigitalPlayer View Post

Maybe will they have 35.1 ION HD, 35.2 & 35.3 QUBO/ION LIFE in a split HD schedule. Not sure what will happen with 35.4.

ION TV upgrade to HD in 1st quarter 2009.
QUBO/ION LIFE expected HD upgrade later in 2009.

If I'm not mistaken, there's only enough bandwidth for two multicast channels when the primary is HD. Due to the limited bandwidth, the secondary is forced to remain SD.

IOW, if 35.1 is HD, 35.2 would be SD and the rest would be history.
post #6052 of 6822
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Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

If I'm not mistaken, there's only enough bandwidth for two multicast channels when the primary is HD. Due to the limited bandwidth, the secondary is forced to remain SD.

IOW, if 35.1 is HD, 35.2 would be SD and the rest would be history.

Not so. Plenty of stations multicast lots of SD subs with HD (Example: WTVX-DT 34). Even in Miami, WPBT has two SD subs along with its HD. It's just that the picture quality usually takes a hit.

From what I heard, qubo and ION Life would be made available in HD on cable, but not OTA. That was a while ago though, so who knows if that's how it'll turn out.

- Trip
post #6053 of 6822
Did WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT become encrypted? Cause for some reason, my HDTV's QAM is not picking up both of those stations and I can only receive WTVJ-DT Channel 6 and WSVN-DT Channel 7.

I'm using Comcast.
post #6054 of 6822
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Not so. Plenty of stations multicast lots of SD subs with HD (Example: WTVX-DT 34). Even in Miami, WPBT has two SD subs along with its HD. It's just that the picture quality usually takes a hit.

From what I heard, qubo and ION Life would be made available in HD on cable, but not OTA. That was a while ago though, so who knows if that's how it'll turn out.

- Trip

You're absolutely right - what I should've said was that there is only room for a single HD channel in a multicast situation. And it's true (at least in the case of WPBT-DT) that the picture quality takes the hit, at least in the SD subs.
post #6055 of 6822
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Originally Posted by TygerClaw View Post

Did WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT become encrypted? Cause for some reason, my HDTV's QAM is not picking up both of those stations and I can only receive WTVJ-DT Channel 6 and WSVN-DT Channel 7.

I'm using Comcast.

Was at my folks' place yesterday (they have Comcast), and I did a rescan on the TV because they're turning in their digital box (my mom thinks it's too obtrusive, and I can't say I blame her).

Most (if not all) OTA stations were available unencrypted just using the cable without a box. For sure, WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT are there.

If you haven't already, you might want to do a rescan. From what I understand, Comcast plays the shell game with the digital channels through the wire (no box).
post #6056 of 6822
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Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

Was at my folks' place yesterday (they have Comcast), and I did a rescan on the TV because they're turning in their digital box (my mom thinks it's too obtrusive, and I can't say I blame her).

Most (if not all) OTA stations were available unencrypted just using the cable without a box. For sure, WFOR-DT and WPLG-DT are there.

If you haven't already, you might want to do a rescan. From what I understand, Comcast plays the shell game with the digital channels through the wire (no box).

I did multiple rescans and even changed the cables, It still doesn't detect those two channels., The only local channels that I receive in HD are WSVN-DT, WTVJ-DT, WBFS-DT, WFSL-DT, and WPBT-DT.

It finds WFOR and WPLG in Standard Definition, But not the High Definition versions of them.

The channel frequencies on this Toshiba Regza 32" are different, WSVN-DT is 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is 118-432.

Theres no way to tune into the frequencies for the two missing HD channels cause it doesn't find them in the scans.
post #6057 of 6822
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Originally Posted by TygerClaw View Post

I did multiple rescans and even changed the cables, It still doesn't detect those two channels., The only local channels that I receive in HD are WSVN-DT, WTVJ-DT, WBFS-DT, WFSL-DT, and WPBT-DT.

It finds WFOR and WPLG in Standard Definition, But not the High Definition versions of them.

The channel frequencies on this Toshiba Regza 32" are different, WSVN-DT is 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is 118-432.

Theres no way to tune into the frequencies for the two missing HD channels cause it doesn't find them in the scans.

My HD ch. 10 shows up at 86-431 & HD ch. 4 at 85-433.

Maybe you have a weak cable signal? Connect tv directly to main cable line entering house before any splitter or amplifier.
post #6058 of 6822
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Originally Posted by DigitalPlayer View Post

My HD ch. 10 shows up at 86-431 & HD ch. 4 at 85-433.

Maybe you have a weak cable signal? Connect tv directly to main cable line entering house before any splitter or amplifier.

WTVJ Standard Definition is showing as 94-1,WSVN Standard Definition is showing as 89-10,and WPLG Standard Definition is showing as 89-8.

WSVN-DT is showing as 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is showing as 118-432
It doesn't find WFOR-DT nor WPLG-DT

I tried it without a splitter, I cant connect it to the main line since this for my bedroom.
post #6059 of 6822
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Originally Posted by TygerClaw View Post

I did multiple rescans and even changed the cables, It still doesn't detect those two channels., The only local channels that I receive in HD are WSVN-DT, WTVJ-DT, WBFS-DT, WFSL-DT, and WPBT-DT.

It finds WFOR and WPLG in Standard Definition, But not the High Definition versions of them.

The channel frequencies on this Toshiba Regza 32" are different, WSVN-DT is 112-1 and WTVJ-DT is 118-432.

Theres no way to tune into the frequencies for the two missing HD channels cause it doesn't find them in the scans.

Look for them after you do a rescan. Start from Ch.79 up to Ch.119. You may find them on 85.XXX or 86.XXX, that is where I get them.
post #6060 of 6822
Does anyone have info on what will happen to the Comcast QAM Clear Channels after the changeover? Will they be renumbered to correspond with the OTA numbers ( CBS 85.433 becomes 4.1) They say no DT converter is required for those with old sets, but if they retain the CH. 2 to 78 analog lineup, just how will they be able to offer new HD channels???
I love how they mislead in their TV ads that they have the most HD channels, by counting the the on demand libraries, as if they were independent HD channels.
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