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post #6241 of 6828
it is now 16-1
post #6242 of 6828
ION is now broadcasting 720p HD on 35-1. Interestingly, they're also broadcasting 3 SD sub-channels.
post #6243 of 6828
Anyone else getting 44.1 on ch 9.1 now? I was watching Equus hd on 44.1 whdt and one minute into it my tv redirected all by itself to ch 9.1 and 44.1 is now gone. the info on 9.1 only shows whdt dtv air with no program info. Every day its something else with dtv.
post #6244 of 6828
I just became a new dish subscriber after a long time with DTV. I wanted to ask about the RSN's in HD for those who have Dish. Is it just one channel for both HD & SD broadcast on SUN & FSNFL? Or do they have separate channels for HD?
post #6245 of 6828
57.1 "K57 DUD" now on air. also 57.2 .3 and .4 but those channels have the colored bars

I also saw a channel 64.64 not sure what that is it was too broken up.

And if anyones figured out whats wrong with 44.1 whdt that for no good reason is transmitting now on 9.1 let me know.
post #6246 of 6828
If you figure out what's on 64, please let me know. I asked about that one a while ago and nobody knew.

What programming is on W57DU-D?

- Trip
post #6247 of 6828
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

If you figure out what's on 64, please let me know. I asked about that one a while ago and nobody knew.

What programming is on W57DU-D?

- Trip

Trip, It was some paid program about some hair ironing device ans was in Spanish. I believe eventually one of the programs will be with a comic named Eddie Calderon who does imitations.

BTW I can only pick this channel through a digital converter box connected to a tube. My top of the line hd digial television using ota antenna will not pick it up neither will it pick up several other channels the converter picks up.

64.64 was too blocky not sure how you call it or broken up to make out
post #6248 of 6828
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Originally Posted by vtpsystems View Post

Trip, It was some paid program about some hair ironing device ans was in Spanish. I believe eventually one of the programs will be with a comic named Eddie Calderon who does imitations.

BTW I can only pick this channel through a digital converter box connected to a tube. My top of the line hd digial television using ota antenna will not pick it up neither will it pick up several other channels the converter picks up.

64.64 was too blocky not sure how you call it or broken up to make out

I follow.

Well, if you happen to figure out if 57-1 has a programming source of some kind aside from infomercials, let me know.

- Trip
post #6249 of 6828
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Originally Posted by vtpsystems View Post

Anyone else getting 44.1 on ch 9.1 now? I was watching Equus hd on 44.1 whdt and one minute into it my tv redirected all by itself to ch 9.1 and 44.1 is now gone. the info on 9.1 only shows whdt dtv air with no program info. Every day its something else with dtv.

I just noticed it this evening, as you describe. Pretty strange.


_Lazza
post #6250 of 6828
Yes, 44.1 is now coming in over 9.1. I suspect that they're still on RF 44 but their PSIP translates to 9.1.

This brings up an interesting issue. I'm not sure what the laws are, but if stations can apparently set their PSIP to whatever pseudo-channel they want for OTA, any station can pop in at a more advantageous "dial position" with computer programming. For instance, if 33.1 didn't feel like being up so high on the "dial", what's to prevent them from resetting their PSIP to, say, channel 3.1? Then they could simply rebrand themselves as Channel 3.
post #6251 of 6828
Wow.

Now we just wait for the FCC fine.

The FCC adopted the PSIP spec in full, and it specifies that stations should use their analog channel number. The FCC has let stations specify their physical channel number instead, but those are the only exceptions. I was told KSWB attempted to map to 5-1 rather than 69-1 and was fined.

- Trip
post #6252 of 6828
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Wow.

Now we just wait for the FCC fine.

The FCC adopted the PSIP spec in full, and it specifies that stations should use their analog channel number. The FCC has let stations specify their physical channel number instead, but those are the only exceptions. I was told KSWB attempted to map to 5-1 rather than 69-1 and was fined.

- Trip

Trip, thanks for the explanation with regards to the law. However, the station we've been talking about (44.1 - WHDT Miami) is digital-only. AFAIK, there's never been an analog counterpart.

Would you know what the FCC rules are regarding PSIP for stations that never had an analog counterpart? Is there anything to prevent those stations from mapping to whatever unused pseudo-channel they wanted?
post #6253 of 6828
They map to the physical channel number. Whatever channel number they map to is referred to as their "major channel number."

If they move to a different physical channel, the major channel number should stay the same, so in this case, 44-1.

If WHDT-DT had never been on the air before signing on as DT-42 (as they will in the near future) and thus that major channel number is taken, they map to that station's physical channel number, so they would map to 27-1 in this case.

But the correct mapping at this time is 44-1.

- Trip
post #6254 of 6828
If this continues what will happen to those that need to add individual channels manually because their sets are not capable of doing a re-scan without loosing the previous scanned channels. Say for example if I wanted to add just channel 10 I couldn't (sometimes you can add the display channel but not always) since to get 10 you have to choose channel 9 which in this case is occupied by whdt.

Im not sure how someone can be watching something in one channel and less than a minute later the tv re directs to another channel and there is nothing you can do about it.

At least with a computers you can prevent the redirects or at least minimize them. About a month ago channel 7.1 and 7.2 were coming in as 8.1 and 8.2
post #6255 of 6828
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

They map to the physical channel number. Whatever channel number they map to is referred to as their "major channel number."

If they move to a different physical channel, the major channel number should stay the same, so in this case, 44-1.

If WHDT-DT had never been on the air before signing on as DT-42 (as they will in the near future) and thus that major channel number is taken, they map to that station's physical channel number, so they would map to 27-1 in this case.

But the correct mapping at this time is 44-1.

- Trip

I would agree, in that I believe their RF channel is 44, so I'm wondering why they've set their PSIP to map to 9.

I'm not sure I understand why they'd go to 42, as that's WXEL-DT's mapped channel number. Also, I'm not sure what 27's got to do with anything, unless you're referring of the station that broadcasts out of Jupiter. 44-1 (currently mapped to 9-1) broadcasts out of Miami.
post #6256 of 6828
Wait, I think I mixed stations up here.

Are we talking about WHDT-LD from Miami, or are we talking about WHDT-DT from Stuart? I mixed them up, my mistake (easy enough to do given the proximity). The channel 42 move is for WHDT-DT, which will be buying WXEL's analog equipment it would seem.

WHDT-LD should map to 44-1, end of story there. They're not moving, they have 44-1, no conflicts. They have no claim to channel 9. Given that it's a low-powered station, I'm not sure what the deal is with regard to regulations.

All that stuff I said in previous posts applies to WHDT-DT in Stuart. Sorry.

- Trip
post #6257 of 6828
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Originally Posted by vtpsystems View Post

If this continues what will happen to those that need to add individual channels manually because their sets are not capable of doing a re-scan without loosing the previous scanned channels. Say for example if I wanted to add just channel 10 I couldn't (sometimes you can add the display channel but not always) since to get 10 you have to choose channel 9 which in this case is occupied by whdt.

Im not sure how someone can be watching something in one channel and less than a minute later the tv re directs to another channel and there is nothing you can do about it.

At least with a computers you can prevent the redirects or at least minimize them. About a month ago channel 7.1 and 7.2 were coming in as 8.1 and 8.2

I still see PSIP being screwed up by some stations. As you've pointed out, WSVN-DT sometimes comes in as 8-1 and WPLG-DT sometimes comes in as 9-1 (both the true RF channel numbers). WPEC-DT also flips to 13-1 (their true RF channel number) once in a while. IIRC, WLRN had this issue a while ago.

I've had the PSIP change right in the middle of a program. All of a sudden, the channel either goes blank (no signal), or automatically switches to the real RF channel. Either way, when I directly key in the true RF channel on the remote, I get the signal. Then, some time later (it could be days later), the mapped channel returns. Wreaks havoc with my "favorites".

It appears that a fair number of stations still have to get their act together regarding PSIP and channel mapping. I find it interesting that these issues still exist this late in the digital game.
post #6258 of 6828
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

Wait, I think I mixed stations up here.

Are we talking about WHDT-LD from Miami, or are we talking about WHDT-DT from Stuart? I mixed them up, my mistake (easy enough to do given the proximity). The channel 42 move is for WHDT-DT, which will be buying WXEL's analog equipment it would seem.

WHDT-LD should map to 44-1, end of story there. They're not moving, they have 44-1, no conflicts. They have no claim to channel 9. Given that it's a low-powered station, I'm not sure what the deal is with regard to regulations.

All that stuff I said in previous posts applies to WHDT-DT in Stuart. Sorry.

- Trip

That explains my confusion.

As of last night, WHDT-LD (RF channel 44-1) was coming in mapped as 9-1. That's the situation I was wondering about.

Regarding WHDT-DT out of Stuart, what will happen to WXEL when WHDT buys the analog equipment? Does WXEL cease to exist at that point?
post #6259 of 6828
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Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

That explains my confusion.

As of last night, WHDT-LD (RF channel 44-1) was coming in mapped as 9-1. That's the situation I was wondering about.

I don't know quite what to say about it. I can't think the FCC's okay with it, but it's a low-powered station so I don't know what the FCC would say.

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Regarding WHDT-DT out of Stuart, what will happen to WXEL when WHDT buys the analog equipment? Does WXEL cease to exist at that point?

WXEL analog is either going off the air soon or already has. They'll be converting the channel 42 gear to operate digitally, and then signing it on from there. It should theoretically continue mapping to 59-1.

Since WXEL-DT is on channel 27, they'll continue as is, mapping to 42-1.

- Trip
post #6260 of 6828
Here we go again... Channel 7 transmitting on 8.3 and 8.4

On or about 8:00 PM Feb 27, 2009 WSVN also ran a "false" alert of a Hurricane with over 100 mph winds and a storm surge of 6-8 feet.

Today they reported the temperature as 8 degrees in Florida?!?

I hear WSVN Channel 7 new banner is going to be "Mission Accomplished"

The truth of the matter, however, isn’t that WSVN problems couldn’t be solved it’s that they're not seriously trying. And we’ve developed a culture in which that’s considered ok.
post #6261 of 6828
CBS 4 broadcast the second to the last act of "Flashpoint" tonight in SD, pillarboxed. I've seen this happen before; what causes this?
post #6262 of 6828
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx View Post

CBS 4 broadcast the second to the last act of "Flashpoint" tonight in SD, pillarboxed. I've seen this happen before; what causes this?

The screw up fairy... Lol

I noticed Friday Night Lights at times Blocky/Pixelated.

I believe just last week cbs or nbc transmitted part of the golf game pillarboxed also.
post #6263 of 6828
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Originally Posted by vtpsystems View Post

Here we go again... Channel 7 transmitting on 8.3 and 8.4

On or about 8:00 PM Feb 27, 2009 WSVN also ran a "false" alert of a Hurricane with over 100 mph winds and a storm surge of 6-8 feet.

Today they reported the temperature as 8 degrees in Florida?!?

I hear WSVN Channel 7 new banner is going to be "Mission Accomplished"

The truth of the matter, however, isn't that WSVN problems couldn't be solved it's that they're not seriously trying. And we've developed a culture in which that's considered ok.

Looks like WSVN-DT's crack engineering staff has screwed up their PSIP again. They do this every so often.
post #6264 of 6828
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Originally Posted by zorinlynx View Post

CBS 4 broadcast the second to the last act of "Flashpoint" tonight in SD, pillarboxed. I've seen this happen before; what causes this?

Was this OTA or through a cable/sat system? I was watching Flashpoint last night OTA and don't recall that happening - IIRC the whole show was HD. That said, my attention was split between the TV and talking to other people.
post #6265 of 6828
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Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

Looks like WSVN-DT's crack engineering staff has screwed up their PSIP again. They do this every so often.

I doubt it's the engineering staff's fault. Most of these boxes run on the reliable Windows operating system we all know and love. If it locks up, someone has to mash the reset button and wait for it to come back up, assuming they caught the fact that it's frozen...

- trip
post #6266 of 6828
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I doubt it's the engineering staff's fault. Most of these boxes run on the reliable Windows operating system we all know and love. If it locks up, someone has to mash the reset button and wait for it to come back up, assuming they caught the fact that it's frozen...

- trip

Well, that's kind of my point. When the PSIP is fubar for 24 hours or more, you know somebody's asleep at the wheel. And if engineering's not responsible for the PSIP, then who is?

As an aside, why is a major station running Windows? Why not Linux or Unix?
post #6267 of 6828
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Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

As an aside, why is a major station running Windows? Why not Linux or Unix?

You'd be surprised. Most of this gear runs on Windows. It's not like they actively picked Windows or anything.

- Trip
post #6268 of 6828
SOUTHFLORIDA.COM/LIVE on Ch. 39-1 from 5AM - 9AM is in HD. All of their field reports are in HD, just like Ch. 10.

Another source of morning news and entertainment in HD.
post #6269 of 6828
There is a miniseries called Il capo dei capi "the boss of bosses" or Corleone on VE me ch 2.3 originally shown in Italy 2007. It is based on Totò Riina from Corleone Sicily and blends in news footage with aftermath of "hits". Every episode is excellent. If you like films like The Godfather you should like this. Its Italian dubbed in Spanish.


Mon 4/13 10:02-11:00pm 2.3 WPBTDT3
Mon 4/13 11:02-12:00am 2.3 WPBTDT3
Tue 4/14 1:02-2:00am 2.3 WPBTDT3
Tue 4/14 2:00-3:00am 2.3 WPBTDT3
Sat 4/18 9:00-10:00pm 2.3 WPBTDT3
Sat 4/18 10:00-11:00pm 2.3 WPBTDT3
Mon 4/20 10:02-11:00pm 2.3 WPBTDT3
Mon 4/20 11:02-12:00am 2.3 WPBTDT3
Tue 4/21 1:02-2:00am 2.3 WPBTDT3
Tue 4/21 2:00-3:00am 2.3 WPBTDT3
Sat 4/25 9:00-10:00pm 2.3 WPBTDT3
Sat 4/25 10:00-11:00pm 2.3 WPBTDT3
post #6270 of 6828
No English version ?
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