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post #6421 of 6828
I live up in Fort Pierce, Florida, and two mornings in a row I picked up Channel 7 and 10. I'm 105 miles north of the transmitter. I had not seen Channel 10 since the days of Ann Bishop. Must say the station has changed a bit. The station faded out around 9:30 a.m. but it was nice to see it.

NBC6 has been the strongest Miami station up here and I have picked up the signal at 86% strength on occasions. However, WXEL, has a repeater signal on that same frequency, 31, so they both make each other difficult to pick up. However, the WXEL repeater signal goes down alot, which means I can get NBC6.

Be glad you don't live up here in Fort Pierce. The West Palm Beach stations broadcast on frequency that are also broadcasts in Tampa, which means poor reception on many days.

Hopefully Cuba or the Bahamas won't start broadcasting on the same frequencies that the Miami stations broadcast on.
post #6422 of 6828
I have noticed that the signal strengh of WPBT is in the 70-80% range here in SW iami-Dade (by FIU). All other channels are at 100 %, even 7 & 10. Even 29 and 42 are at 70%. I have a 10 element Ch. 7-13 antenna and a Televes DAT-75 UHF antenna. Are they running at lower power or problems with their antenna? It used to be at 100% before.

Jose
W2JD
post #6423 of 6828
Is anyone having problem with several HD channels getting glitchy with lots of pixelation and stutter with Comcast HD?

For some reason a couple of the HD channels I receive are showing lots of pixelation and stuttering while the rest of the HD channels are fine.

For example, Channel 423 CNNHD is showing a ton of pixelation
post #6424 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by jstrazz View Post

Do you think that you guys might consider getting a UHF frequency? That would solve all your problems.

Here is my attempt at finding vacant UHF channels. If I didn't miss one it looks like 44 and 45 are available without having to protect an incumbent class A LPTV. It's too bad that 25 is occupied by a class A, it would have been a good channel. There are other possibilities but they involve protecting incumbent class A's and/or full power stations.

There is obviously more to interference studies then this simple exercise but you have to start somewhere...


7 WSVN
8 open
9 open
10 WPLG
11 open
12 WPTV
13 WPEC
14 Land Mobile
15 Land Mobile
16 WPBF
17 open
18 WPBT
19 WSFL
20 WLRN
21 WDLP-CA
22 WFOR
23 WLTV
24 open
25 WIMP-CA
26 open
27 WXEL
28 WFLX
29 open
30 WSCV
31 WTVJ
32 WBFS
33 open
34 WTVX
35 WPXM
36 WPXP
37 Radio Astronomy
38 WTCE
39 open
40 WBEC
41 WJAN-CA
42 WHDT
43 WTCN-CA WTCN-CA displacement ch. 50 application due to original WHDT ch. 44 allocation.
44 open
45 open

46 WHFT
47 WAMI
48 WWHB-CA
49 WFGC
50 WSBS-CA WTCN-CA displacement ch. 50 application due to original WHDT ch. 44 allocation.
51 open
post #6425 of 6828
Data stream statistics for stations I can get are in the enclosed ZIP file.

 

TSReader South Florida 7-18-09.zip 39.041015625k . file
post #6426 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by acesk8er View Post

Data stream statistics for stations I can get are in the enclosed ZIP file.

You're amazing, you know that?

I owe you. If you see anything during tropo, please let me know. I'd love to have it all.

- Trip
post #6427 of 6828
44 is not open, it maps as 9-1.

Jose
W2JD
post #6428 of 6828
44 is a low-power. If a full-powered station wants it, WHDT-LD has to move.

- Trip
post #6429 of 6828
Yeah, what Trip said. I intentionally omitted non "Class A" LPTV's and there are quite a few of them.

44 is actually the best channel because when WTCN-CA moves there will be no local adjacent channel occupant so a new station on 44 should have no problem "maximizing" unless a real interference study reveals something else.

The only open question is whether Sunbeam and Post-Newsweek are interested in switching their Miami stations to UHF.
post #6430 of 6828
A little propagation enhancement brought in a couple of digital LPTV's from Miami, WFUN and WHDT. See data in the enclosed ZIP file. Unfortunately WSVN and WPLG are too noisy / weak to decode properly on my OnAir GT receiver. I'll need a monster VHF band opening for those two.

 

TSReader WHDT-LP WFUN-LP 7-19-09.zip 3.205078125k . file
post #6431 of 6828
Awesome!

If you happen to get WSVN/WPLG, post it. I'd be ecstatic to have them and thus complete Miami. W31DC-D is the only station left in West Palm Beach.

- Trip
post #6432 of 6828
I live 60 miles south of the WSVN and WPLG transmitters in Key Largo and have not yet gotten either digital channel. I have high gain vhf and uhf attic antennas and a preamp so get 4.1 and 6.1 fine. I was hoping with the boost in power and going to vhf I would be receiving a strong enough signal. I just learned on this thread that power increases are coming so hopefully with their directional antenna system the north and south signals will make it to the Keys.

My thanks to the station engineer that has given us progress reports on what is happening.
post #6433 of 6828
I could not believe my eyes, but HBO added a lot of HD on demand yesterday on Comcast. Movies, series, documentaries etc. all in stunning HD! Finally they listened :-)
post #6434 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikajakub View Post

I could not believe my eyes, but HBO added a lot of HD on demand yesterday on Comcast. Movies, series, documentaries etc. all in stunning HD! Finally they listened :-)

Yep, it seems to be that way across the entire Comcast footprint. Apparently with other suppliers it is hit or miss!

I'm glad that HBO finally came to its senses!
post #6435 of 6828
I was changing channels and when I reached channel 7.1 wsvn the 7.1 info display changed and the channel number switched to 7.3 all by itself the same when I changed the channel instead of 7.2 next the display now shows 7.4
Im also not getting any program info other than dtv air

On numerous occasions wsvn has had similar issues the difference being the channel was 8.3 and 8.4 not what Im getting now which is 7.3 and 7.4

I tried to manually input channel 8 hoping it would correct the problem and all that does is give me analog channel 8 with snow.

Can anyone else confirm this. If you have an ota antenna and or a samsung that would be even better.

I prefer not running the risk of loosing channels by doing any unnecessary rescans

This appears to be an ongoing problem with wsvn.
Why on earth would tv manufactures not include an option to block this musical chairs with channel numbers from happening.

If it did this all by itself shouldnt it fix itself?
post #6436 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by vtpsystems View Post

I was changing channels and when I reached channel 7.1 wsvn the 7.1 info display changed and the channel number switched to 7.3 all by itself the same when I changed the channel instead of 7.2 next the display now shows 7.4
Im also not getting any program info other than dtv air

On numerous occasions wsvn has had similar issues the difference being the channel was 8.3 and 8.4 not what Im getting now which is 7.3 and 7.4

I tried to manually input channel 8 hoping it would correct the problem and all that does is give me analog channel 8 with snow.

Can anyone else confirm this. If you have an ota antenna and or a samsung that would be even better.

I prefer not running the risk of loosing channels by doing any unnecessary rescans

This appears to be an ongoing problem with wsvn.
Why on earth would tv manufactures not include an option to block this musical chairs with channel numbers from happening.

If it did this all by itself shouldnt it fix itself?

WSVN-DT's PSIP is fubar once again. That's why your Sammy shows 7-3 and 7-4 with no program info. Mine shows the exact same thing.

Prior to analog death, WSVN broadcast on RF 8, which is why when their PSIP went out back then WSVN-DT displayed 8-1 (or 8-3 on newer Samsung TVs). There was no PSIP info to tell your set you were watching "Channel 7". Now, after the analog death, WSVN's RF is the same as their branded channel, so the main channel number is still 7.

No clue why Samsung TVs show the true RF primary as "-3" rather than "-1" when the PSIP goes out. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about those things has an explanation.
post #6437 of 6828
Because their MPEG-2 Program Number is 3 for 7-1 and 4 for 7-2. I don't have data for WSVN, but let me show you a different example.

http://www.rabbitears.info/screencap.../63154-0_0.htm

That is data for WTVJ. Note how the 6-1 stream is listed as Program 3. Without PSIP, many receivers will show 31-3 for this reason.

The number is arbitrary, though there are reasons for variations. Many stations use Program 3 as their first due to a specific FCC regulation regarding the PIDs (sort of like data addresses) for the various parts of the stream, though there are ways to meet this rule while using Program 1.

I realize that was probably overly confusing. If you really want a good explanation, let me know and I'll try again.

- Trip
post #6438 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by 97Strat View Post

WSVN-DT's PSIP is fubar once again. That's why your Sammy shows 7-3 and 7-4 with no program info. Mine shows the exact same thing.

Prior to analog death, WSVN broadcast on RF 8, which is why when their PSIP went out back then WSVN-DT displayed 8-1 (or 8-3 on newer Samsung TVs). There was no PSIP info to tell your set you were watching "Channel 7". Now, after the analog death, WSVN's RF is the same as their branded channel, so the main channel number is still 7.

No clue why Samsung TVs show the true RF primary as "-3" rather than "-1" when the PSIP goes out. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about those things has an explanation.

Thanks for responding Strat. Good talking to you again, Hope all is well...

Edit: Trip just saw your post thanks. Hope all is well on your end also
post #6439 of 6828
Do you think WSVN will move there weather info to 7.3 now that Estrella TV is coming to 7.2 ?
post #6440 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by WillTech View Post

Do you think WSVN will move there weather info to 7.3 now that Estrella TV is coming to 7.2 ?

Multicasting is the worst thing that has ever happened to TV. The greedy broadcasters try to cram so much into such a small "space" that EVERYTHING ends up looking like garbage! And there should be a limit to how many foreign language stations can exist in any one market. Ditto for religious stations...I don't have a problem with providing equal access, but things are just ridiculous down here.
post #6441 of 6828
Hey Trip, I found a magical spot for WPLG and also got a clean decode of WPXM while I was at it, see enclosed ZIP file.

 

TSReader WPLG WPXM 7-24-09.zip 4.9892578125k . file
post #6442 of 6828
Thanks.

- Trip
post #6443 of 6828
Why does the picture quality of Universal Sports (6-3) look so shabby? I know it's broadcast is in 480i, but other 480i channels look far better than that.
post #6444 of 6828
Mostly because it has a lot of motion and is compressed. Usually, subchannels have mostly still video with little motion and can be compressed well, but Universal Sports has a lot of motion and whatnot, so it requires a lot more bandwidth which NBC is likely keeping for 6-1 instead.

- Trip
post #6445 of 6828
My friend has Comcast internet in Broward but his connection was faster in his old house which was only 2 miles away. He's not sure if its his modem and Comcast isn't going to his house for a few weeks. Can I take my Comcast modem to his house and test the connection? Will my modem work at his house or is it dependent on the local Comcast station that it won't work?
post #6446 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doom878 View Post

My friend has Comcast internet in Broward but his connection was faster in his old house which was only 2 miles away. He's not sure if its his modem and Comcast isn't going to his house for a few weeks. Can I take my Comcast modem to his house and test the connection? Will my modem work at his house or is it dependent on the local Comcast station that it won't work?

Has he tried unplugging the modem for a minute or two and then plugging it back in? If not, he should try that. That's what Comcast has told me to do and it worked fine afterwards. I have similar problems with my wireless router. I unplug and then plug in again and it works fine.
post #6447 of 6828
Yes he tried that
post #6448 of 6828
Hello, new to the forum.
I have a DB2 antenna from antenna's direct that worked perfectly on my previous address. I moved about 10 block and now I have a building in front of my apartment blocking reception - I get low signal strength to none.
I also have an amplifier, a small little box that has to be connected to a power outlet. What I have noticed over the weeks is that by adjusting the position, (yes the position) of the amplifier I get better reception - still not as much as I'd like to...

Anyone has any ideas about how can I improved reception?
Would a second antenna or amplifier help in any way ?

Thanks in advance...
I'm in North Bay Village - 33141
post #6449 of 6828
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falcon_77 View Post

WHDH's request for permanent operations on 42 has reached the next step.

AMENDMENT OF SECTION 73.622(I), POST-TRANSITION TABLE OF DTV ALLOTMENTS, TELEVISION BROADCAST STATIONS, BOSTON, MASSACHUSETTS. Proposed channel substitution for station WHDH-TV from channel 7 to 42. (Dkt No. RM-11552 09-142 ). Action by: Chief, Video Division, Media Bureau. Adopted: 08/05/2009 by NPRM. (DA No. 09-1770).

Anyone have the inside scoop on whether Sunbeam has any intention of moving WSVN to UHF? (This is for their channel 7 station in Boston.)
post #6450 of 6828
In the Miami Herald's Action Line in their local section on Saturday, someone asked why they weren't getting the digital channel for 10. Someone from 10 said to call the station. I don't have it front of me but I believe Action Line has its own forum at the Herald web site so the info should be there.
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