Originally Posted by mikemyers
Thanks, Trip. It's amazing that a private individual, even with the help you've got, could put all that together! I've just spent a lot of time going through your site, some of which I do understand, and some of which is beyond my ability to deal with yet - I need to learn more.
I'm glad you like it, and I'm always glad to help explain things when I can.
I am entering all the information on the channels I receive into an Excel spreadsheet, with two groups - one with the channels in English, and another with all the other languages (mostly Spanish).
I will compare that with what you've got listed on your chart (which will also tell me how many of those stations I am actually able to receive). If I find listings that are not on your chart, I will try to figure out what format you want this submitted in. Specifically, you asked "Would you be able to fill me in on what programming each subchannel has on it?" Are you looking for something similar to "English, product selling advertisements, only daytime" or whatever the case might be?
Sounds good to me. Basically, if it's just all English-language infomercials, then you can just say "English Infomercials." If it has a network name (like WPLG 10-2 is LATV and the logo clearly says so) then I'll take that.
How in the world does my TV know that when I try to tune in channel 17, it should switch and show me something on a different channel???? ....and suppose someone wanted to actually broadcast on channel 17, how can they do this when the other station is taking up TWO of the available numbers, both 17 and 20??
When you scan your TV, it generates a table so that it knows when you put in 17-1 to actually go to 20.1 instead.
For a station which transmits on 17, it will need to show up with a different display channel. W64AN-D has a permit to relocate to channel 17 and should display as 64-x. If a new station was to pop up on 17, the PSIP standard states that it should display as 20-x.
Since I can actually tune in both of the PBS stations by going to 20.1 and 20.2, why should I be tuning my set to a "fake" number?
It's your decision whether you want to or not, but most people like to stick with the channel numbers they remembered from analog.
(When I grew up in NYC, I got used to one set of numbers for ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. When I moved to Michigan, the networks were there, but the channel numbers were different. So, I'm used to using different numbers, as needed. It seems to me that we all ought to be using what you have called the "Physical Channel", not the "Display Channel".)
My parents lived much of their lives in NJ outside of NYC. After 15 years, my dad still calls CBS "channel 2" from time to time.
Of course, when you're moving, you expect the channel numbers to be different. The transition was confusing enough for people, telling them to relearn the channel numbers was unlikely to make them any happier.
(Disclaimer: I am a strong proponent of so-called "virtual" channels, to the point that I wrote a blog entry on RabbitEars
By the way, after your post last night, I immediately went into my code and changed the column labeled "digital channel" to "physical channel" in hopes that it will reduce confusion.
A handy addition to your table would be to list the language that the station broadcasts in. For example, for me, I'm only interested in channels that are in English. Others will have different desires. I think that would make your chart a bit more useful.
This is a very interesting suggestion. I will definitely take it into consideration; however, I wonder what to do about stations which transmit different languages in SAP.
As a general idea, though, it should be pretty easy to implement. Most network stations should be able to be automated. I'll definitely be thinking this over.