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post #121 of 8197
9/13/04 at 8:14am
For some reason, I thought the "Quick Start" feature only pertained to turning the TV off and they quickly turning it back on again (within a very short period of time).

Don't have one of my own yet, though...so perhaps others could confirm/deny that this is how "Quick Start" should or shouldn't work.
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post #122 of 8197
9/13/04 at 8:52am
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Originally posted by nosered
I have my 52HM84 for a week and really like the PQ of it. One thing bothering me is the delay time when i turn it on. It sometimes takes 1-2 minutes to have the picture shown. Wonder if anyone has this problem ?

Note that I am using QUICK START mode.

Thanks.

I've had my 52HM84 for about 2 weeks, and the TV always comes on in less than 10 seconds and it takes about 30 seconds to get full colors and brightness.
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post #123 of 8197
9/13/04 at 9:02am
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Originally posted by nosered
I have my 52HM84 for a week and really like the PQ of it. One thing bothering me is the delay time when i turn it on. It sometimes takes 1-2 minutes to have the picture shown. Wonder if anyone has this problem ?

Note that I am using QUICK START mode.

Thanks.

Are you connected with HDMI or component cables? I posted last week about my problem with the resetting of the HDMI connection. Maybe I just haven't had enough patience to wait the 1-2 minutes.

I also wonder if others who get quicker pictures (like TheGrub who posted earlier) is connected with component cables or HDMI.

I have e-mailed to Toshiba about this and am waiting for a reply.
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post #124 of 8197
9/13/04 at 9:18am
I am connecting via Component cable. It sometimes take < 30 seconds, but sometimes really slow ...
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post #125 of 8197
9/13/04 at 10:06am
I'm waiting for my DVI --> HDMI cable. So for now everything is connected through componant or S-Video.

Any input that is selected when i boot the tv takes less then 30 secs to get full image.
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post #126 of 8197
9/13/04 at 10:26am
Has anyone seen the 62HM84 model yet?
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post #127 of 8197
9/13/04 at 10:45am
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Originally posted by Ineedanewtv
Has anyone seen the 62HM84 model yet?

I'll be seeing it in my living room this Wednesday when it gets delivered!

--T.
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post #128 of 8197
9/13/04 at 10:46am
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Originally posted by tristanc
I'll be seeing it in my living room this Wednesday when it gets delivered!

--T.

How far away will you be sitting from it?
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post #129 of 8197
9/13/04 at 11:00am
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Originally posted by aaron20832
How far away will you be sitting from it?

With my current layout I'll be sitting anywhere from 8-9 feet, which should be the minimum distance on a 62 inch HD. If that proves too close, I'll rearrange furniture to get a couple more feet.

--T.
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post #130 of 8197
9/13/04 at 12:59pm
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Originally posted by aerospace0007
I really liked the PQ of the 52hm84 when i went to best buy today compared to all other dlp sets I saw. The only thing that really bothers me is that this set does not officially support a pc which is the only reason why I haven't yet bought this set.

Has anyone noticed any problems with the tv when hooking up their pc which was not correctable?

And will toshiba be shipping any other dlp's which will support a pc?

Has anyone been able to get 1:1 pixel ratio with their pc and this set?

If you read thru this thread from the start you will find my (and others)
adventures along thease lines. To make a long story short. You can connect
the hdmi input to the DVI output of a PC. The issues are:

Some kind of processing is still enabled during HDMI input which results
in an acceptable but not 1:1 mapping of pixels. Fine text has some artifacts.
If your MAIN use is a computer monitor look elsewhere. If you want to use the
computer input as a way to run a front end i.e MYHTPC it is no probelm. I also
get Superb results running the MyHD capture card for HD and DVD playback.
Others has had good results using the component inputs for PC input
but of course there is still no 1:1 pixel mapping.

This monitor also has the same aprox 5% overscan issue as other HD
monitors and some people have had difficulity finding a video mode setting
to fit the desktop on the screen w/o overscanning the toolbar ....etc. I have
had good luck with certain leaked Nvidia drivers (read this thread).

From across the room with slightly increased text size this monitor works
fine for computer input. Given that I spend 95% of the time watching the
wonderfull HD picture I am all in all delighted to own my 52hm84.

There is another (more expensive) version of this monitor just around the
corner (HX series) which has 2 HDMI inoputs and other added feautures.
It will be interesting to see if this issue is addressed.
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post #131 of 8197
9/14/04 at 7:02am
Hey all.

I managed to get the nv 66.0 drivers to work.. as they have an overscan compensation function built in for DVI output. Good stuff.

However, because I use my PC for lots of other things and because those drivers may present a stability problem, I have chosen to hold out a bit until I can build a dedicated PC to house my HDTV tuner and act as a PVR. In the meantime I can still record free to air HD content to my PC.

My only current complaint with the TV is the gray bars for 4:3 material. Otherwise, I'm happy.

-A
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post #132 of 8197
9/14/04 at 7:53am
What do all the owners of the 52HM84 think about the Clay faces or dithering on camera pans ?

This would be my only complaint about this TV. I did not notice it on my samsung HLN and did not notice it the first week i had my 52HM84.

But now i can see it very easily !.. When the camera pans, if you look at one object in particular, sometines, there is massive posterization or Clay face artifact.

Is it only me ? Is my TV defect ? or once you see it you see it all the time ?

I know alot of people say it depends on the source and i kind of agree a bit. I can see it more often on SD then on DVD or HD. With the Xbox on First person shooter games or Racing games like Rally sport challenge 2, it's pretty obvious....
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post #133 of 8197
9/14/04 at 11:11am
Hello guys,

I'm planning to get a 52HM84 in a couple of weeks. Here's my dillemma:

This TV has 1 HDMI port, and 2 component in

But what I'm planning to hook up to it is:

1 xbox (component)
1 PS/2 (component)
1 Nintendo Gamecube (component)
1 DVD player (either HDMI or DVI, doesn't matter cuz we can get adapters)
2 satellite receivers (one of them will be S-video, the other DVI or component (DirecTV))

So what is the best thing I can do? I have an audio receiver, Onkyo TX-SR601, and it has 2 component inputs, which means that takes care of 2 consoles and uses only 1 of the TV component inputs. Obviously DVD player will go to the HDMI port. Therefore, what I'm left with is the following:

1 console
2 sat receivers

The TV now has 1 component left, but I need 2.

I heard that there are some DirecTV receivers that have 2-3 component inputs, as well as S-video inputs, and it upconverts even the S-video out to component. That would solve it (and it would make my one S-video source upconverted, apparently...this is what a friend was telling me).

I believe it's a Samsung, or a Motoroal receiver. Any ideas? Thanks.

Oh, my receiver would also take care of the audio (3 optical TOSLINK inputs, which takes care of xbox (1) DirecTV (1) and DVD player (1)).

Thanks.
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post #134 of 8197
9/14/04 at 11:19am
Quote:


Originally posted by Victor Nowik
I also got my 52hm84 from onecall (for 2843). My first big internet
purchase. Shipped same day All went as expected. Delighted with my toshiba. No
other connection with onecall except as a satisfied customer.

Victor, are you aware of the warranty issues with buying a TV from an online store? Apparently, most manufacturers just won't honor the warranty, period, unless bought from an authorized B&M dealer/store. True?
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post #135 of 8197
9/14/04 at 11:29am
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Originally posted by ndahbar
Victor, are you aware of the warranty issues with buying a TV from an online store? Apparently, most manufacturers just won't honor the warranty, period, unless bought from an authorized B&M dealer/store. True?

Onecall.com is an authorized dealer. Check out: http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/buy/ and click the etailers link to see a list. I don't know if this is an exhaustive list or not, though.

--T.
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post #136 of 8197
9/14/04 at 1:43pm
Toshiba has updated their website to reflect the new Cinema Series (HMX) model DLPs. Probably no surprises here...but at least it's "official" information:

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisi...?model=52HMX84

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisi...?model=62HMX84

Edit:

The HM94 series DLPs are also up on the site:

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisi...p?model=46HM94

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisi...p?model=52HM94

http://www.tacp.toshiba.com/televisi...p?model=62HM94
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post #137 of 8197
9/14/04 at 3:14pm
I am having a problem with my 52HM84. I have a HTL-HD sat receiver hooked up by a DVI-HDMI cable, and RCA cables for sound. The HTL is set for stereo sound, but the TV is not getting MTS. In the Audio menu, the MTS is greyed out, so I cannot change from MONO to STEREO. On page 51 of the manual, it says that the "MTS feature is not available if TV is in VIDEO mode". I assume that means choosing between FILM or VIDEO in the Cinema mode setting, but it doesn't change anything.
Anybody know why my MTS is greyed out?
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post #138 of 8197
9/14/04 at 9:46pm
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Originally posted by tristanc
With my current layout I'll be sitting anywhere from 8-9 feet, which should be the minimum distance on a 62 inch HD. If that proves too close, I'll rearrange furniture to get a couple more feet.

--T.

That's great. I can't wait to hear your review of the tv sitting from the 8-9 distance. I'm thinking about getting the 62 but am worried about it being to big. My distance would be 10-11 ft.

-A
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post #139 of 8197
9/14/04 at 11:29pm
Just wanted to confirm: The HM84 series' HDMI port is HDCP-compliant, right?
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post #140 of 8197
9/14/04 at 11:38pm
52HM84 is dead.... after a week. It did work fine first day, then on second on it took longer to turn on. Now it is just trying to fire itself up 8 times, then red and green LED blink.

It seems that either lamp or ballast has died. I've called Toshiba today. Service center
is on the east coast. it was already closed, 4pm PST. So Toshiba tech.sup. guy said he will let me know tomorrow. We'll see how good is Toshiba support.

Apparently many Sams DLPs suffered from the same problem... Defective Phillips bulbs.
I liked it when it worked. It is pretty good picture in 1080i for 720p native resolution.
Can't wait until TI 1080p (almost) chips will be on the market.
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post #141 of 8197
9/15/04 at 10:28am
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Originally posted by dessa
52HM84 is dead.... after a week. It did work fine first day, then on second on it took longer to turn on. Now it is just trying to fire itself up 8 times, then red and green LED blink.


Oh boy ! Mine has exactly this problem, but the pic shows after 2 minutes.
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post #142 of 8197
9/15/04 at 10:46am
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Originally posted by nosered
Oh boy ! Mine has exactly this problem, but the pic shows after 2 minutes.

This is scary
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post #143 of 8197
9/15/04 at 1:51pm
Does anyone have the dedicated TV stand for the 46HM84, the ST4684?
If so, what are it's dimentions (HxWxD). I can't find the specs for it anywhere on the web. TV authority didn't even know when I called them. Also, can you put 4 components in it (cable box, receiver, DVD, and VCR)?
Leaning on this set as opposed to the sammy HLP4663
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post #144 of 8197
9/15/04 at 2:16pm
Saga continues.... I've called Toshiba again today. They said they are sending me
replacement bulb. 7-10 business days to arrive. I'll keep this list posted
with the experience :-)



Quote:


Originally posted by dessa
52HM84 is dead.... after a week. It did work fine first day, then on second on it took longer to turn on. Now it is just trying to fire itself up 8 times, then red and green LED blink.

It seems that either lamp or ballast has died. I've called Toshiba today. Service center
is on the east coast. it was already closed, 4pm PST. So Toshiba tech.sup. guy said he will let me know tomorrow. We'll see how good is Toshiba support.

Apparently many Sams DLPs suffered from the same problem... Defective Phillips bulbs.
I liked it when it worked. It is pretty good picture in 1080i for 720p native resolution.
Can't wait until TI 1080p (almost) chips will be on the market.
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post #145 of 8197
9/15/04 at 5:54pm
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Originally posted by Victor Nowik
If you read thru this thread from the start you will find my (and others)
adventures along thease lines. To make a long story short. You can connect
the hdmi input to the DVI output of a PC. The issues are:

Some kind of processing is still enabled during HDMI input which results
in an acceptable but not 1:1 mapping of pixels. Fine text has some artifacts.
If your MAIN use is a computer monitor look elsewhere. If you want to use the
computer input as a way to run a front end i.e MYHTPC it is no probelm. I also
get Superb results running the MyHD capture card for HD and DVD playback.
Others has had good results using the component inputs for PC input
but of course there is still no 1:1 pixel mapping.

This monitor also has the same aprox 5% overscan issue as other HD
monitors and some people have had difficulity finding a video mode setting
to fit the desktop on the screen w/o overscanning the toolbar ....etc. I have
had good luck with certain leaked Nvidia drivers (read this thread).

From across the room with slightly increased text size this monitor works
fine for computer input. Given that I spend 95% of the time watching the
wonderfull HD picture I am all in all delighted to own my 52hm84.

There is another (more expensive) version of this monitor just around the
corner (HX series) which has 2 HDMI inoputs and other added feautures.
It will be interesting to see if this issue is addressed.


Yup still struggling a bit over here with ATI and the Catalyst drivers. Note my other post for image resolutions I am using. I did hook up through DVI and received the same MAJOR overscan issues and with limited resolutions directly accessible via the Catalyst drivers.

The real interesting issue is that when running via DVI or Component my screen tilts right. I have done some testing and there is no problem with this using other sources (Satellite/DVD). I have been able to use Powerstrip to move the visible picture left. That being said, since the picture is tilting I can't align the sides up perfectly (always a bit of a gap at the top or bottom). To be honest this effect minimally impacts my ability to use the TV as a computer monitor, but just as those who can see rainbows are drawn to them like they are the only thing on the screen, it really annoys me a bit as it is truly a beautiful image otherwise.

FWIW, I will say it one more time that although there is no 1:1 mapping I have no issue with blurry fonts. Text is completely readable and does not give me any more eye strain than I would otherwise have had with a computer monitor. I am still pluggin away. In any event, I hope this helps.
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post #146 of 8197
9/16/04 at 6:27am
Does anyone have an HM94 yet? I have a 62HM94 ordered through an online reseller who is hoping to get the set in stock between 9/20 -9/30.
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post #147 of 8197
9/16/04 at 7:58am
Look at the Audio Authority 1154A. It will take 4 component/optical/Coax audio in and output one component/optical/Coax audio. It autodetects the input with the signal. It runs about $150.

...joe

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Originally posted by ndahbar
Hello guys,

I'm planning to get a 52HM84 in a couple of weeks. Here's my dillemma:

This TV has 1 HDMI port, and 2 component in

But what I'm planning to hook up to it is:

1 xbox (component)
1 PS/2 (component)
1 Nintendo Gamecube (component)
1 DVD player (either HDMI or DVI, doesn't matter cuz we can get adapters)
2 satellite receivers (one of them will be S-video, the other DVI or component (DirecTV))

So what is the best thing I can do? I have an audio receiver, Onkyo TX-SR601, and it has 2 component inputs, which means that takes care of 2 consoles and uses only 1 of the TV component inputs. Obviously DVD player will go to the HDMI port. Therefore, what I'm left with is the following:

1 console
2 sat receivers

The TV now has 1 component left, but I need 2.

I heard that there are some DirecTV receivers that have 2-3 component inputs, as well as S-video inputs, and it upconverts even the S-video out to component. That would solve it (and it would make my one S-video source upconverted, apparently...this is what a friend was telling me).

I believe it's a Samsung, or a Motoroal receiver. Any ideas? Thanks.

Oh, my receiver would also take care of the audio (3 optical TOSLINK inputs, which takes care of xbox (1) DirecTV (1) and DVD player (1)).

Thanks.
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post #148 of 8197
9/16/04 at 9:50am
For all of you waiting on the HMX models, crutchfield.com actually has them *in-stock* (as in ready to ship immediately).

I was a bit surprised by this, as the other retailers I've spoken with (including where I've pre-ordered mine) apparently don't have them yet and don't expect them for a week or so...but I talked with them, had them double-check the computers, and they can actually get them out the door now.

Hopefully that means mine is close! Good luck to anyone who gets one sooner (although I'm definitely jealous).

Mmm...2HDMI Inputs



(more photos available on crutchfield.com)
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post #149 of 8197
9/16/04 at 10:09am
Mmm...2HDMI Inputs

I agree, but am bummed they don't have the HMX in a 46" model. 50" is pushing my size limit.
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post #150 of 8197
9/16/04 at 10:14am
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Originally posted by joewmaki
Look at the Audio Authority 1154A. It will take 4 component/optical/Coax audio in and output one component/optical/Coax audio. It autodetects the input with the signal. It runs about $150.

...joe

Awesome, thanks Joe!

EDIT: I found a guy online that sold it to me for $130 inc. shipping.

Sweet! This thing will be perfect. Cuz I got 3 consoles and 2 satellite receivers I need to use, and at least 3 optical audio cables.
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