The Toshiba DLP (HM/HMX) Owners Thread - Page 101

need 3 more posts

now 2 more.

Last one.

http://www.dtvcity.com/toshiba-dlp/toshiba-72mx195.php This is the TV I was talking about in the above post. Sorry for all the random posts before.

Also does anybody have a price on this TV?

Cnet has not reviewed the 52HMX95 (HMX85 in Canada) yet, just the HM series. The HMX has a better picture and more features (2 HDMI connectors, better filter, etc). Also if you look around more people have an issue with the Mits and their aweful glare than with the Toshiba and its picture. That being said to each his/her own, and the important thing is your enjoying your TV. I just took exception with some of your extreme comments......

I would TOTALLY avoid LCD RPTV's! They have horrible ghosting on fast movement and sporting events and the screen door effect is VERY noticable..... DLPs are just plain superior to any LCD RPTV. Again my own opinion.

Kared

Hmmm several folks in this thread said that the HMX and the HM series were the exact same except that the HMX has extra connections and theatrenet hookups.

I had the 52HM95, and it had 2x HDMI and 2x IEEE1394 firewire\\DTV ports.

I can understand the Glare on the Mitsu's because of the Glass, but I like the glass...
Now the HMX series, from what I saw on Crutchfields site, are more expensive and does have PC RGB port.

I had an LCD RPTV, the Panasonic 45LC12, and I have no issues with GHosting or artifacts. It was a nice TV, just did not have a lot of options. I will post some pictures of my TV...

I purchased the Toshiba52HM84 last year for my son as a xmas gift. After seeing his tv I decided to sell my rear projection tv and get the same Toshiba for myself. The DLP series displays a much better picture than the earlier rear projectors.
Comparing with my neighbors Samsung DLP sinc we both have the same cable box, I and he both agree the Toshiba is slightly better in picture quality and much better in the audio speaker performance.
Sometimes the picture on my tv is like 3D and I am amazed on just how good it is. I am very happy with my purchase and I am reccommending the Toshiba DLP series to all my friends and relatives.

With the 94 series the difference was mainly the extra HDMI input and the black bezel. With the 95 series they both have two HDMI inputs so the main difference is the PC input, THINC (network connection) and the all black cabinet with the HMX. Don't get us wrong the Mits is a good set but you will be hard pressed to find someone to agree that the PQ is 20X better than Toshiba, at least with the 94 series which most people find to be as good if not better than the Mits as far as PQ is concerned. There are some things I did like better with the Mits such as speaker placement and more inputs but felt the Toshiba had better PQ and couldn't get over the glare with the set. It seems ridiculous to spend money on a trim kit to make it look right without the screen. Since you seem to prefer it better you might want to post in the following forum as the opinions on this thread will differ from yours. Good luck with your new set.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ght=mitsubishi

Hi,

Just got my new 52hmx84 set from Brandsmart (Florida/Georgia Retailer) for $1,498 + tax. In addition I got their 5 yr extd wty for $275 including bulb replacement. Thought I got one heck of a deal!!

In my opinion, this tv is the best bang for the $$$ without a doubt.

Love the set's PQ and features. Waiting for my calibration disk to tweak the set further. Currently hooked up though Adelphia cable (with a SA8300HD) via component inputs. Would a hdmi hook up offer any better signal input or just eliminate the 5 plug in cords?

Also now debating on whether to upgrade to the Toshiba 62HMX84 DLP. Price is only about $500 more? Any thoughts.

This thread was excellent in helping me decide on the Toshiba. Keep up the comments they are extremely helpful both pro/con/problems/connections/etc.

Happy Toshiba Owner

Some people report better PQ using HDMI and in theory it should (all digital connection with no D/A and A/D conversions). In either case you probably will use a digital audio connection from your STB to a receiver and the HDMI would just eliminate the need for the 2 channel audio to the TV, in case you don't want to use the receiver. I have found that at least with the Sony DVD player I have the display doesn't pass DD or DTS (only 2.0 PCM) from the audio output of the TV. It does for cable signals connected to the ANT1 input. I would be curious as to if it does with your STB as it would tell me the DVD player is the cause and not the display.

As far as the 62" goes it's hard to argue against larger screens. I originally looked at the 52" and ended up with the 62" and I don't regret it in the least. I would recommend at least 10' viewing if you watch a lot of SD programs and you might want to try splitting the cable feed and evaluating the PQ through the TV's analog tuner as opposed to the STB. It does mean you would need to switch inputs but I found the PQ improved over the Motorola STB I have. Perhaps the SA's tuners are better and you won't notice a difference.

I just bought the 62hmx84 as well. I have a question though. Im using Adelphia and can have t just pass all resolutions to the Toshiba and let it scale to its native.. Is this the best way to handle this? I also damaged the corner of the damned thing while getting it on the stand by myself.. oh well.. bent the upper corne of the speaker.. Also, i have been out of the loop a lil lately.. what would be a decent budget HDMI DVD player.. I was using the Zenith 318 for upconverion via component..

I just bought a new 62HMX94 and am delighted with it. I am a relative newbie here, so please forgive me if I say something already covered or something ignorant - but hey if I knew it all I you all would be coming to me for the answers and not the other way around!

I also got the Toshiba SD-5970 DVD HDMI Player with it at the same time. While the quality of the picture is excellent on the player, it does not work on nearly all of my +R or -R burned disks. I say nearly all because so far one has worked. I have tried different media and it simply won't recognize any of it except for the one that inexplicably worked. Also, sometimes you have to hit the buttons on the remote several times to get it to work. It included an HDMI cable with it, and that is a nice feature considering the STUPID prices most places charge for a cable. The picture is really great overall - that I have no complaint about. I have sent a complaint to toshiba about almost none of my disks will work on this but will work in my old cheap POS APEX player in hopes there is an upgrade or fix available for this one. But I looked around and there are complaints all over the net about this one - so I would not advise getting it. At least don't get it if you want to play recordable media.

I am interested if anyone has a recommendation for a tried and proven MS Media Center setup that works well with HD tuning/recording and connected to one of these Toshiba DLP TVs. Since none seem to have an HDMI setup, do you connect using a DVI adapter or Component Cables? Currently I am using the Scientific Atlanta HD DVR box from my cable company. The DVR thing is great (this is my first one) but I am wondering what the current Media Center options are for HD solutions, and what that option will get me over what I currently have today. If there is a recommended preconfigured system that would be even better. But I am interested in what you guys are using today for MS MC2005 HD solutions.

Thank you in advance!

I also got the Toshiba SD-5970 DVD HDMI Player with it at the same time. While the quality of the picture is excellent on the player, it does not work on nearly all of my +R or -R burned disks. I say nearly all because so far one has worked. I have tried different media and it simply won't recognize any of it except for the one that inexplicably worked.


I would take the 5970 back and get the 5980. I had nothing but problems with the 5970's and returned two. I replace one at the store and the second Toshiba replaced with the 5980 since they no longer produce the 70's and it works fine.

I use Ridek -R and have not had any problems with my backup copies.

Can anyone tell me where to find a 52HMX94 locally...BestBuy? CircuitCity?

Also is the HMX94 the only one with gaming mode?

I'm looking for a DLP to mostly watch movies and do some gaming on and this is the TV I've kinda been pointed towards.

Circuit City doesn't carry ANY Toshiba's. Best Buy does not carry the Cinema Series so you will only find the HM94's. Usually only the higher end retailers will carry the Cinema Series. You can try calling Toshiba for dealers in your area. I was able to get mine at a retailer but I believe they are only in Michigan and Ohio.

P.S. All of the 94 series (HM and HMX) have the "game mode". I'm not sure about the 95 series.

If your STB supports native "pass through" this would be the ideal setting to allow the TV to scale when necessary. I don't know what you consider "budget" HDMI player but the three most common in the $300 range are the Panasonic S-97 (and newer S-77), the Sony DVP-NS975V (which I have), and the Oppo OPDV971H which uses DVI as an output.

I just adjusted my Adelphia cable box (SA8300HD DVR) and it makes a huge difference if not set up properly for the Toshiba. The SA web sit has a lot of manuals and info online (scientificatlanta). (Sorry, I couldn't post the the entire URL because of the Forum restrictions so you will need to add the standard URL address info)

This is what I did with the component hook-up that I am using to the TV: Get into the setup menu on the cable box, go through the menus for HD and Wide Screen in Advanced Settings. ( Do not use the Easy Setup routine as this limits you to 480i and 1080i resolutions.) Select all the formats (has to be done one by one) and then find the option for the Pass-Through and select that option. While you're there you might also want to select the Dark option for letterboxing to get black letterboxing instead of grey. I have ordered HDMI cables and plan to try that connection as compared to my present component hook-up. With the HDMI, I believe the best resolutions for the TV are automatically selected through the hook-up and can not be selected manually in the cable box.

Give it a try. You may have to re-tweak your Preferences picture because of the better resolutions.

The settings for resolution should be the same for component or HDMI. My Motorola's settings are for both component and DVI.

Hey guys. I have a 52HMX95 DLP.

It arrived last Tuesday. After a week of watching I noticed a few (2-3) small pieces of dust on the bottom half of the screen. These pieces of dust show up as black, and look to be behind the TV screen. I didn't notice them at first so I'm not sure if they came on recently or were there all along.

Is this something I should worry about? Is this a normal occurance, and if so is it easy for someone to clean it in say a year or so? Is this something that gets worse over time?

Its got a 5yr warranty so I'm not too worried about it.

BTW I love this TV, I'm just wondering if other Toshiba DLP owners have had this type of issue?

Info appreciated! Thanks

My 46HM94 has one dust on the lower right side of the screen too. But I only notice it when there is a solid light colour on that area and if I am close to the screen. So far I am just ignoring it since I am guessing it is probably a dust on the lens.

Hey Kared...Thanks for the opinion...What is interesting about this thread is that very few people in the hundreds of posts have complained about this TV. Reading other threads you can find a consistent complaint about one thing or another. Here it is usually "How can I make it better" type posts...I think most people here would say that anyway...its a challenge thing...PQ perfection!

Anyhow..thanks and I can't wait to get my Toshiba!

Yep, I had this a few months back... Mine was in the upper left portion of the screen. You could really notice it during light scenes or when the screen was white. I sent it in for service to a local repair shop, they cleaned the optical block and the problem was gone. They said they also sealed it better than Toshiba had so hopefully it doesn't happen again.

I understand, but then I expected some explanation, you know, on the TV's manual.

OK, but does that mean if we set our devices to 720p, the image will be correctly proportioned and displayed on the Toshiba? Was I under the wrong impression by the image (it seemed kind of squashed, like 4:3 in FULL)?

Or, would it be better to have some of the zoom functions available and set the devices to 1080i?

All:

I am having a TVGOS/Cable Card issue with my Toshiba 52HMX94. The CC worked great for the first two weeks, although the TVGOS refused to get a channel listing. Once I added an external antenna to ANT 2, I received a channel listing, but no program information. It was at this point that I started to lose audio on the majority of my channels. If I do a complete reset to defaults on the TV, the audio comes back. But once the TVGOS updates the channel listings, I lose audio again. I have a call into TVGOS, and I am placing ANOTHER call into Toshiba. Has anyone had either of these issues?

uh2

If the connected device is configures properly to send a 16:9 image, then the TV will be correctly proportioned. My guess is your device is configured for 4:3.

Now the other question where you ask if you should put 1080i or 720p ?

Check what's better looking for you. My DVD player is set to 1080i because i find that PQ is a bit better then at 720p. I still get a nice 16:9 image at 720p and do not need any aspect ratio options at any of these resolutions.

My cable box is set to passthrough to feed the TV with the broadcaster's format. I found that it was giving me a better PQ on 720p channels than upscaling everything to 1080i.

I've tried to look through the thread, but I apoligize if I missed my answer.

What is the major upgrade in the HM95 vs the HM 84? I've seen some people post that the chip is better in the 84. It seems that the older model is only available through the web and the new model is avail at the major retailers.

I guess my main question is: Is the newer model worth the extra coin or would the older be just as well?
thanks in advance.

You are comparing two entirely different sets. The HM84 does not have integrated tuners (ATSC/QAM), media card slot, IEEE-1394 outputs, TVGOS, digital optical output, or a cable card slot. That's what the "9" signifies. If you want to compare the HM94 (last years model) and the HM95 (this years model) the biggest difference is the newer ones have 2 HDMI ports whereas the HM94 only had one. The HMX series were the only ones that had two HDMI ports in last years models. Also, the newer sets use the HD4 chip as opposed to the HD2+ from last year. Opinions vary on which on is better.

Check out krc's post for the model differences on last years models.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&pagenumber=25

Thanks alot for the help. I guess I missed the point originally that the 84 and 94/95 were different series. I'll check out that thread. I'm not sure if the integrated tuner or cable card provide any value as I have directv and have the antenna hooked up to the box so I may just be OK with the 84 and save some coin.
Is the 94 still available at the major retailers? (I'm looking for a 46inch).

Well... I just went to best buy and checked out what I "was missing" in the case of the HM95's... I am sorry, please do not take this as flaming or as me being smart alecky or nasty, but I once again looked at the Toshiba's and of course I walked right up to the sets. WHat I saw was the same... The Toshiba's picture was far below that of the WD-52527's which had a level of sharpness matched only by the 55 inch Sony sitting next to it.

THe close I looked at the Toshiba, the more I could see little black speckles and and a general fuzzy graininess that was on all of the scenese. They were playing a loop from the Robots movie and it was in HD....

I have to say that the picture on the WD-52527 was the best looking... I could cleary see the screen door, but that was not a problem to me in comparrison to the HM95 (Both the 52 inch and the 62 inch)'s graininess...

I am happy with the WD-52525, but will wait for the 52527 to come down some more so that I can take my 52525 in and get that one instead. That is the TV that I want...
Its blacks are fine, and the color is awesome, and it isthe sharpest picture in the store.,...