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post #571 of 8197
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Originally posted by umr
I would be willing to take a look at one if someone in the Sugar Land area PM's me.

That's a good offer to anyone willing. UMR has been a very valuable resource specifically for Sony LCD owners so anyone willing would benefit from UMRs knowledge. I'd offer but I'm thousands of miles from Texas (Ohio).
post #572 of 8197
Hey Mpauly,

You said "Rainbows were also greatly reduced" using the Zenith 318.

I have the same TV and I see the rainbows all the time....for DVD I'm still using the cheap Cyberhome 300 Component output....

I see rainbows not just in DVD, but if I can reduce them on DVDs will be great !

Do you think just replacing my DVD for a better one can help reduce the rainbows ??

Thanks !!!
post #573 of 8197
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Originally posted by TheGrub
Ok, i tried taking pictures again... here is what i could get... it was pretty hard to take nice pictures that realy shows what's going on.... But here it is.

It was easy to reproduce while playing an xbox racing game. Turning around and around and around was doing it.

1st shot is a shot of the car going straight. Check out the trees, grass and road. Remeber that the car is moving forward pretty fast. So IMO the definition of the trees and everything is pretty good.

http://www.creationspapillonbleu.com...4/straight.jpg

2nd picture is at the same spot but i was doing circles so the whole screen is panning to the right. Look at the trees and grass and road again, it look all grainy.

http://www.creationspapillonbleu.com/52HM84/pan.jpg


i think it's dithering but i could be wrong. If it is then this tv seems to have dithering problems when the camera is panning alot.

Is this what i think ???

I will try taking better pictures.. but these are a start.

I wondering if what you're talking about is the same thing I happened to see when I was on one of my TV exploration trips. I was looking at all the different HDTV displays out there and notice that when a few, just a handful , played a scene that panned real fast it blurred, the best way to describe (because I didn't spend much time in front of any set that did that) it was for those who play the Tom Clancey games when you walk through an area that's been gassed and don't have a gas mask everything gets blurry and it's almost like frames are being dropped. It's REALLY noticeable when you're looking at a wall of about 20 or so sets and 3 of them do it. Not cool at all. I was in CompUSA when I saw this. TheGrub does that kinda describe what you're seeing?
post #574 of 8197
Hello All, It looks like there is starting to quite a few owners of this HDTVs.
I have an issue I need to see if I am the only one or a common issue. During a letterbox movie, I see a bowing in of the picture on the top and bottom, also if I watch a 4X3 shoe I can see bowing on left and right sides. It is kinda like a pincushion effect.
I will be testing the HDMI input soon attached to a COX stb and I will post my results.
post #575 of 8197
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Originally posted by mpauly

Now I'm just looking for a wide, furniture like stand (with doors to cover the components) that's about 22-24" high. Looking at one particular Bush stand, but haven't seen it in person. Anybody got any suggestions?

Michael

PS gotta give props to my girlfriend for coming with me to countless video stores end endulging all of my comments on each set. She was really interested throughout the process (or at least did a good job pretending), gave me her opinions on each set and didn't give me and grief about spending the too much money on a TV. I think she was happy I was including her in the decision process. She's a keeper!!! [/b]


Thanks for the post. I just ordered mine and am waiting for it to arrive. We ordered our base from Stanley furniture. Here's a link

http://www.stanleyfurniture.com/Brow...nav1=SHOMEENTE

We chose a rubbed black finish (you can opt only for the base and forgo the cabinet). The door panels can be replaced with glass and you can order extra shelves if you have a lot of components.
post #576 of 8197
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Originally posted by mecl
Hey Mpauly,

You said "Rainbows were also greatly reduced" using the Zenith 318.

I have the same TV and I see the rainbows all the time....for DVD I'm still using the cheap Cyberhome 300 Component output....

I see rainbows not just in DVD, but if I can reduce them on DVDs will be great !

Do you think just replacing my DVD for a better one can help reduce the rainbows ??

Thanks !!!

Mecl,

Rainbows were reduced, that is for sure. I'm not sure why, perhaps because the picture with my old panny DVD was so dark with poor black detail that any lighter color created high contrast areas (the source of rainbows)? I don't know, maybe someone with more technical expertice can explain it. Either way, the Zenith upconverting DVD really is awesome. I can't say if upgrading your DVD player will do anything for rainbows, but it did for me.

Sorry I can't be of more help here.

Michael
post #577 of 8197
Can the 52HMX84 have separate video settings (tint, color, brightness, etc.) for each input source?

Michael
post #578 of 8197
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Originally posted by Michael Mohrmann
Can the 52HMX84 have separate video settings (tint, color, brightness, etc.) for each input source?

Michael

YES
post #579 of 8197
So far, I've only seen a message or two here from people who say they're using their 52HM84 as an HTPC. Victor Nowic, the initiator of this thread, was one of them. Basically, I'm a new 52HM84 owner and a noob to this whole HTPC thing. So, is it possible for any experts in here to offer some advice on using this TV with an HTPC? Anything such as Powerstrip settings, etc. would be appreciated. I already have the DVI to HDMI cable. (I purchased it through PCCables.com for a nice $25 price. That sure beats BB's whopping $100+ pricetag!)

Thanks,
NathanE
post #580 of 8197
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Originally posted by totalownership
I wondering if what you're talking about is the same thing I happened to see when I was on one of my TV exploration trips. I was looking at all the different HDTV displays out there and notice that when a few, just a handful , played a scene that panned real fast it blurred, the best way to describe (because I didn't spend much time in front of any set that did that) it was for those who play the Tom Clancey games when you walk through an area that's been gassed and don't have a gas mask everything gets blurry and it's almost like frames are being dropped. It's REALLY noticeable when you're looking at a wall of about 20 or so sets and 3 of them do it. Not cool at all. I was in CompUSA when I saw this. TheGrub does that kinda describe what you're seeing?

Well, not blury but on fast camera pans, if you keep your eyes on the same objects, espessialy on Gray or yellow objects, you see color breakup and it gets all pixelated.
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In Ebay u can get DVI to HDMI cable for $15-20 shipped. Last week I got gold plated component cable for 15$ shipped.
post #582 of 8197
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by NathanE
So far, I've only seen a message or two here from people who say they're using their 52HM84 as an HTPC. Victor Nowic, the initiator of this thread, was one of them. Basically, I'm a new 52HM84 owner and a noob to this whole HTPC thing. So, is it possible for any experts in here to offer some advice on using this TV with an HTPC? Anything such as Powerstrip settings, etc. would be appreciated. I already have the DVI to HDMI cable. (I purchased it through PCCables.com for a nice $25 price. That sure beats BB's whopping $100+ pricetag!)

Thanks,
NathanE

Hi Nathan....It dose not offer perfect 1:1 pixel mapping but I find it
quite useable....but I am not as picky as some....it works better for
images than text....read this whole thread for details...in a nutshell:

1. get a DVI to HDMI cable and a supported (check drivers) card
2. use the nvidia 66.0 "pirate drivers" to fix overscan.
3. turn down sharpness and brightness for best text.
4. get a MyHD w DVI daughter card...almost unbeatable on
DVD and over the air or playback HD transport streams from Tivo

Still in love with my display

Victor
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By the specs, I really like the upcoming 62HMX94 TVs, but will wait to see one in person (hopefully soon). I only have one major issue at this point with it, Grey Bars. Does anyone have a work-around or know if when viewing TV using the cable card there will be a way to get black insteat of grey?
post #584 of 8197
I just received my 52HM84 yesterday. I connected up my digital cable conection and the picture was terrible. I had my old Panasonic RPTV tweaked extensively. Some major changes to the user settings and the picture is acceptable. My Panny had the option to turn off the upscaling to 480P. I preferred the scanlines to the softer picture. There doesn't appear to be the option on the Tosh. I sometimes find the scaling artifacts disturbing, but I'll get used to them. The blacks are very good, the whites are lacking in detail (this may make it go back if I can't correct it). Looks like the gamma is prety far off. HDTV looks great. Unfortunately I only have a few OTA channels available and there isn't a lot of programming worth watching. To bad I don't watch football . I haven't watched a DVD yet because I primarily us my X1 for movies. I was wrestling between this unit and the Mits. The Mits had an integrated tuner (which I don't need) a glare screen I would remove right away and netcommand (which looks interesting). The Tosh was a grand cheaper and 50 lbs lighter and has the integrated guide if I can get a cablecard. I may have to look at the Mits again if I can't resolve the whites issue.
post #585 of 8197
Hi every body.
I'm waiting to hear that my 52HM94 is in, and last night our APEX DVD player broke. The guy at the shop has been trying to sell me a Toshiba sd-5970 since I ordered the set. Is this the way to go? Remember I thought the APEX was good. The fire wire on the 52HM94 that hooks to what Toshiba calls Symbo(hard drive recorder) is that the same as the I-link on a Sony DVD R? Thanks for all the tips and tweaks. Ernie

PS the sony is Model: RDRGX7/B
post #586 of 8197
Has anyone actually tried this on the 62HM or 62HMX series? Does it work?

Also, does anyone have the width and depth of the bottom of the base for one of these sets? I need to see if it will sit on the table I have. And is the base flat or is the support only around the outer edges of the base?

Thanks!

Tom


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Originally posted by Quill
I have a HMX on order, and the grey bars issue is one of the few drawbacks this TV has. Has anyone tried the tweaks that worked on standard Toshiba RPTVs on their DLP?

I doubt the procedure is identical, but the name of the parameter may be, as well as the concept of controlling the brightness of the sidebars...

1. First, you need a One For All remote. This is the only way I have found so far which allows access to the ADDR mode, which is even more 'powerful' than the design mode. You will find little about the design mode in the service manual and nothing about the ADDR mode.

I used the OneForAll Cinema 7. ($24.99 at Best Buy) Per the remote's instruction manual, set it for Toshiba code 0156. Try turning the TV on and off with the remote now to see if you did it properly.

2. Next, set the macro button on the remote (per the instructions) so that the macro sequence is: setup button, (labelled on some Oneforalls as the 'magic' button) then 0, 1, 4.

3. Remove all inputs from the TV (don't know if this matters, but I did it just in case) I then put my TV in Video 1 input and put it in standard mode so I could see the gray bars.

4. Pressing the macro button once should now put your TV in the ADDR mode. You will see the letters ADDR in the upper left corner and some letters and numbers.

5. Now, pressing the VOLUME button will change parameters, so don't press it unless you feel like experimenting. Simply press the CHANNEL up and down and you will cycle through parameters without making any changes. Stop when you reach the following parameter: (I had to scroll up for a WHILE)

2B7H - this controls the brightness of the sidebars and will probably show you a value of 07.

6. Now - simply press the volume down until that value reaches 00. (you will see the side bars turn black) TURN YOUR SET OFF TO EXIT ADDR MODE.

YOU'RE DONE. Hook your video inputs back up and turn your set on. You will now enjoy black sidebars on all material while in standard mode.
post #587 of 8197
tcimpidis,

I try with just pushing 0, 1, 4, but it didn't work. Can't seem to get into ADDR. Maybe I need a One For All remote. Anyone has this remote please try it and let us know if this work or not. Thanks.

Here is another information regarting Gary bars. It is for HX, not HM, but it may work if you can get in ADDR mode.

http://www.bus.ucf.edu/cwhite/theater/GaryBarsBlack.htm

Wish someone has a solution. Thanks.
post #588 of 8197
Great thread guys...

I have been looking at DLP TV's for over a year now and have narrowed my choices down to this TV. Unless newer models from other companies come out during the 1st quarter of next year (when I plan to buy).

My only concern is with the dithering during videogame use. To those that have a XBOX, Gamecube or PS2... how bad is the dithering? Does it make the games un-playable?

I read through this entire thread and looked at the pictures someone took. I wanted to get opinions from those that play the faster paced games to see how often this happens and how bad it is. For example, during first person shooters, does this happen often or just once in a while? Also, is it the entire screen or just sections?

Thanks
post #589 of 8197
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Originally posted by KevinSDiego
Varkus,

Get your Sony DVP-NS975V hooked up via HDMI yet? if so, how does it look? It's getting some pretty good reviews over in the DVD section.... I placed an order for this to come along with my 46HM94, which I'm supposed to get on the 5th.

Not sure if I've posted this here or not...but so far the NS975 via HDMI (upscaling to 720p) looks pretty damn good. I tweaked it very, very quickly with Avia and I think the picture looks pretty good. I probably need to tweak the black level a bit (especially after reading the thread in the DVD area)...but I have no complaints about image quality so far and haven't seen any macroblocking from the player (yet).

That said, I haven't run a lot of DVDs through it yet, and none of them have really been good 'reference' DVDs (like LOTR:TTT) which are supposed to really test blacks/motion etc.
post #590 of 8197
Varkus,
What brand of HDMI cable are you using? Need to pick one up.
post #591 of 8197
just wondering if any1 has the new toshiba dvd recorder rd-xs52 and how it performs on the HM/HMX. read some articles that the previous HDMI efforts of toshiba sucked (dvd player 5970). was hoping this new model has the bugs worked out, especially the HDMI PQ / performance.

thanks!
post #592 of 8197
Anyone know when the 52HMX94 is available?
post #593 of 8197
Crutchfield says Nov. 12th
here
post #594 of 8197
Surely by now, somebody must know why some of us have the audio MTS setting greyed out and on mono.
post #595 of 8197
If your not on one of the ANT inputs and using just the red/white analog cables then there is no slection to choose MTS. You just automatically get stereo.
post #596 of 8197
Ok,

How do we get the sides of the 4x3 picture on these DLP sets to be straight? Mine are always bent concave. Not enough to distort the picture annoyingly, but enough to notice it.

Anyone seen this?
post #597 of 8197
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Originally posted by staggarlee
Surely by now, somebody must know why some of us have the audio MTS setting greyed out and on mono.

I believe it's grayed out because you're not decoding anything. MTS only applies when you're receiving an analog signal that contains stereo audio. Go to source 0 and tune in a network channel. I'll bet you'll see MTS and Stereo.
post #598 of 8197
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Originally posted by ndahbar
Ok,

How do we get the sides of the 4x3 picture on these DLP sets to be straight? Mine are always bent concave. Not enough to distort the picture annoyingly, but enough to notice it.

Anyone seen this?

I wish I knew. It would really be nice if we were able to get access to these setting. A cheap PC display lets you adjust the geometry of the screen. If we could get in to these settings, we might even be able to blank out those damn gray pillars.
post #599 of 8197
Lodey and Kevin.

It seems the HMX94 models are being pushed back a bit. I've had my eye on the 62HMX94 expected arrival date at Crutchfield, and I'm dismayed to see that the expected arrival has just been pushed back from 11/5 to 11/19. Well, I guess good things come to those who wait...
post #600 of 8197
Quote:


Originally posted by ndahbar
Ok,

How do we get the sides of the 4x3 picture on these DLP sets to be straight? Mine are always bent concave. Not enough to distort the picture annoyingly, but enough to notice it.

Anyone seen this?

Yes, I see this as well. I'd guess it's about a 1/8" bow inward, though I've not actually measured it. It is slightly annoying if I look for it, but not enough that it's distracting. With my bars set to 'dark' on my cable box, the bowing is much less noticable than when it's the default light gray.

If you figure out how to adjust I'd love to hear about it though.

Michael
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