The Toshiba DLP (HM/HMX) Owners Thread - Page 221

Yes.... I had tried turning it off and unplugging and it would still be like that. I left it alone for about 30 minutes and when I turned it back on. It was back to normal. Weird. Any ideas why it would do that? First time it did it. Thanks for the replies guys.

I want to purchase a back-up lamp for my 52HM95, it requires a D95-LMP. Looking for advice on a recommended online vendor for this bulb. I'm a afraid that Ebay may have some older bulbs, so I want to deal with a seller that moves a lot of inventory.
Thanks

We are seriously looking at the new Toshiba 72MX196. But we just had a rude awakening today in our shopping. We were in Circuit City (they do not have the toshiba, but we were looking at a Samsung and a Sony. We had them flip off their normal HD promos and had them flip over to SD programming off of cable. The picture was awful! (I guess come to think of it that was on a Mits). Our old CRT RPTV is dying. It is over 10 years old, the color is going, the convergence is screwed up, and the repair guy can't get the parts to fix it. We are going to have to buy a new tv really soon!

So given that my husband and I primarily watch Dish programming, do no gaming, and rarely if ever watch a DVD, we are concerned. I see that the Toshiba has both analog and digital tuners. Please tell me truthfully how your SD programming looks. Do you plug into the analog tuner part so that when you are watching SD programming that it looks better there?

I am really confused. At this point, if we could buy a projection TV that wasn't HD I think we would do it and just wait until there was more HD programming available. But please be honest and let me know what SD looks like on your tv.

Thanks a bunch!

Portia

I watch HD programming on my 62HM195 that isn't horrible. So, for example, I enjoy House, Las Vegas and the original CSI, but drek like CSI: Miami is intolerable despite the staggeringly gorgeous HD shots of Miami.

My most watched channels are both SD: Fox Soccer Channel and BBC America. Both of these are compressed hugely. (Perhaps conversion from foreign SD systems also hurts, but I don't know.) They look pretty awful most of the time. If they weren't so compressed, they wouldn't be so bad. SD channels that aren't compressed hugely, don't look too bad. Of course, personal standards vary -- my not-too-bad might be your unwatchable.

Had a buzzing noise intermitently and had the set taken in to my local authorized repair guy (he wanted to take it to the shop due to its intermittent nature) Called him today and was told he ordered a new light engine

Just in time as only 2 months left on my warranty...

Already had a bulb blow now this...but I still love the TV!

I agree, additionally, I never buy a TV based on the quality of picture in store. I do it based on reviews as you never know how much the signal is split etc....and one TV can be made to look better than the other on purpose due to higher profit margin, need to move it out, etc....one never knows...

http://www.allpartsnow.com/

From Vance Baldwin Electronics you'll find good prices for the lamps and lower shipping than others on the web. And if the TV is used for your business, the price could be lower.

Good Luck.

If I understand the question correctly, the answer is you don't plug into the tuners separately. Your source determines whether the channel is analog or digital, and almost all SD programming on my Comcast service is digital. Digital does not mean HD.

So to answer your question, SD picture quality depends on several things including the original source quality and the compression. Some SD channels on my service are noticeably worse than others, but some are actually very clear and sharp.

Also remember that some of the local HD channels actually are displaying SD content - they're only transmitted on the HD channel but the content is SD and it does not look any better than watching the same non-HD channel (i.e. CBS Evening News). You'll see the black bars on both sides of the picture when this is is the case since SD content is formatted as 4:3 and then packaged onto HD's 16:9 screen size.

I've had my 195 for a year and can say that I've very satisfied with SD in general, but you also have to be sure you're not sitting closer than reasonable for the size of the screen. SD picture quality is really what determines the size of the screen based on how big your room is. I sit about 15 ft away from my 62" screen, and sometimes think that the 56 would have been enough. But HD is amazing.

Also, my understanding is the satellite service uses higher compression than cable so the negative impact on picture quality is greater.

Just some things to consider.

My 62MX196 arrived Mon but I didn't get a chance to set it up until last night. Initial impressions:

I love this TV. The black looks great, and it's definitely not too big. HD channels look terrific and most SD looks better than I expected. I haven't done any tweaking beyond turning off edge enhancement and knocking down the contrast. (set to 100) So far no RBE, but I'm seeing a little more SSE than I'd like. I'm hoping some fine tuning can reduce it. At this point I'm very satisfied with the set. I just wonder why Toshiba's marketing strategy is to keep this baby a secret.

Pix in a couple days.

Has anyone had to pay to replace a light engine? I recently replaced the lamp although the display did not show signs of the lamp going bad. The display doesn't turn on. I was told that it could be the light engine. The TV is out of warranty by a few months. Any suggestions???

First of all, you may be watching more HD than you think. Most network programming is now HD in prime time and there are plenty of HD movie and sports channels, Discovery, etc. I assume you're going to have your new TV for awhile, and programming will only get better. Second, SD might be better on the Tosh than what you're accustomed to. I have a friend with a five year old Sony 57" CRT RP and SD PQ on my 62MX196 is vastly better. The only obvious caveat I would offer is that if SD PQ is a serious consideration for you, you may want to consider a smaller screen size.

If the light pattern indicates a bad bulb it could also be the Ballast. I,ve had mine go out twice and it looks like it;s gone again.

I have the 62" 2005 MX and SD looks quite acceptable. HD spoils you though so that any non-HD programming is obviously nowhere close. I agree with plasmarc in that my experience is that most of what I watch is in HD. Of course, I'm mostly a sports guy. NASCAR Cup is all HD, most NFL is HD OTA as well as DirecTV SuperFan, most college FB is HD with ESPN and ESPN2 HD as well as OTA HD, and ALL prime time TV that we watch is HD.

I am sitting here at the moment watching a Nashville Preds game in SD about 15 feet away and it looks quite good. Figure out how far you will be sitting from the set and don't get one too big just to have big 10 to 12 feet is fine for a 62". If you will be 15 feet or more, the 72 should be what you need.

From what I understand the Light Engine is $2,000+ so its not worth paying for in my opinion. You might want to look into a new TV

As an alternative, throw yourself on the mercy of Toshiba cust service..cant hurt...one never knows....

Good Luck!

http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...ModelID=429697 little better??Good luck.................. P.S. Actually,this one is higher than mine,a 1080p, 195 series.

You really should have a reputable service company tech come and evaluate.A possible solution is the lamp ballast.....Sorry,addressed to wrong poster.........

http://www.partstore.com/ProductDeta...ModelID=610415 Case anyone is wondering about a LE for the 56HM195.........

No audio?Nothing? Or just no picture?

Wow...at least the price is a manageable one....good to know...

Schlegs

Make sure you have the lamp door correctly installed there is a switch which must be in place for the set to activate.

Smokin

Thanks for the reply! The "dots" are always on the screen when the TV is on. Whether i'm watching digital cable (HD or not) or playing XBOX 360, they're there. Would you say this is an issue with my set?

hey nikonosis,
did you ever resolve your color banding issue? i've had my 56hm195 since 9-13-06. i bought it at Fry's with a build date of 3-11-06. for the first couple weeks i had no problems however while watching a football game (via Directv HD) the screen turned magenta, image started scrolling towards the left and a 1/4" light blue line presented itself on the right side of the screen from top to bottom. i turned off set twice before the image went back to "normal". since that time i have noticed severe color banding and blothiness. Called TCS and was advised to have local service look at set.
tech arrived today and as i described problem to tech he said that was just the way these sets work. after showing him the problem from all inputs and different material he agreed it was the worse case he has seen and took the set to the shop however if he can not repeat the color, scrolling problem there may not be much that can be done. this is an issue of concern for me. if the color banding problem was present BEFORE the color/scroll problem i did not notice it.
if anyone has any insight i'd be happy to hear it.

Anyone here experience digital noise when viewing dark scenes HD & SD feeds on a 52hmx85? I noticed these coloured moving dots last night while playing some xbox 360. I had not noticed it before. Some other ppl. seem to have noticed the same problem: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...668#post273668

I've tried other inputs and always have the problem. The noise is definitely not coming from the source material. Furthermore, the noise is still apparent when the image is paused. It kinda looks like snow on dark images only, it doesn't show up on brightly lit scenes/games. Any ideas?

I'm a proud owner of a 52hm95. I've noticed the same thing lately. Seems like it's sometimes there and sometimes not.

Another thing that bothers me about this TV is this sort of white circle that sits in the middle of the screen. It's really noticeable when the TV is off, but you can see it at other times when it's on, depending on the source material. For instance, Dead Rising on the Xbox 360. It's completely noticeable on every cut scene. Once that cut scene is over it's gone. Weird.

Anyone know anything about this stuff? Looked through this massive thread quite a few times and haven't been able to get a clear answer. Thanks in advance

Guys, I have never used an Xbox 360, so my knowledge is quite limited, but the TV does have a DNR control. I suppose you have tried it already, but just in case you overlooked it I thought I'd mention it.

I have indeed tried the DNR setting, without any luck.

I've spoken with Michael TLV (calibrator from the Laser Video experience) here is what he had to say:

graininess in the dark areas ... is normal for DLP sets of this class and pricepoint. A bunch of round dark green rocks so to speak.

I hope your TV is properly calibrated with at least a test disc .... that helps a bit.

Also ... how close are you sitting to the screen? That matters a lot too.

regards

McGowan wrote:
Hello Michael. I just today noticed image noise on my 52hmx85 (a few wks old) . It looks like snow. It shows up on hd/sd feeds (xbox 360 games, dvd movies, both connected with component cables) and only shows up in dark areas. It is also apparent when the image is paused. I've seen the problem described here: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/show...668#post273668

I'm wondering if there is anything that can be done. I have a service manual.
Tks



Michael @ The Laser Video Experience


Man, this REALLY sucks...

If anyone's interested, I have pix of my 62MX196 posted in successive messages in the owners thread here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post8712612

If the bright area goes away when the room is darkened it is probably caused by the screen/mirror/lens/DMD collecting and reflecting room light.

Feature wise what is the difference between62hm116 and 62hm116?