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post #211 of 7450
Hi Everyone
Last night I tuned in KOB for the first time! Congratulations to KOB and it is very exciting when I consider the potential for the Olympics. The signal strength if fine (I think around 80% with my Dish 6000), but it still has lots of drop outs. The interference on the crest must be huge. The picture is much clearer and with better sound, but unwatchable until they fix the dropouts. I am located in Ridge Crest near the airport. Horton
post #212 of 7450
Well, here is the official announcement from the NAB on KOB digital being on the air.

http://www.nab.org/Newsroom/PressRel/RELEASES/0702.htm

Seems like the KOB dropouts are much less but there are still some (maybe once a minute or so). Still hoping for the Olympics this Saturday in high-def.

Spoke to Jim Gail at KNME and he says there's a lot of interference up on the crest. Too many towers close together and too low to the ground. He ordered some new equipment for better filtering and hopes to be back transmitting the national PBS feed (instead of the file server loop) within the next week to 10 days.
post #213 of 7450
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Originally posted by fjerina
Spoke to Jim Gail at KNME and he says there's a lot of interference up on the crest. Too many towers close together and too low to the ground.

I used to have a CD player in my car that would go into la la land when I got within about 100yds of the parking lot Crest. Pretty ugly up there!

Pete
post #214 of 7450
Thread Starter 
Since we are waiting to see if KOB-DT broadcast Tape delayed HDTV winter games from Salt Lake City..

I just found out that CBS will be broadcasting a live HDTV mens NCAA basketball game at 11 AM MST on sunday the Feb, 10th and was wondering can the KRQE-DT be on the air in time for that or it's too late to do it?

BTW, KOB-DT seems more stable now with much fewer breakups my signal strenth still bouncing around 35 to high as 58 "Right now as I typing now at 40.... HOLY COW at 10:57 AM I just saw a colorbar in HDTV for about 60 seconds the feed is from LA, Calf!!"

2-7-02
post #215 of 7450
Seeing the color bars in HD is encouraging.

Now, you got to be kidding about CBS us being up by Feb. 10. We will be lucky if they are up by May 1 as much as they are dragging their feet !!!

But wonders never cease.
post #216 of 7450
IT'S OFFICIAL - KOB WILL TRANSMIT THE WINTER OLYPICS IN HIGH-DEFINITION DIGITAL STARTING THIS SATURDAY!!!

I just spoke with Jim Gail and KOB just gave him the OK to spread the word. They fixed their problem (one of the oscillators in the upconverter was not working properly) and their high-definition path from national is also operational.

They also upped the power from 250 watts to 1000 watts on their transmitter.

This is truly a wonderful news and I can't wait to see the opening ceremonies this Saturday.

Enjoy !!!
post #217 of 7450
Thread Starter 
That's is a very good news for all of us in central New Mexico!!

KOB-DT's signal seems to be very stable and no breakup in picture so far and rock steady at 40 on my signal meter.

Did they say anything about Jay Leno will be broadcast in HDTV tonight or not?

2-7-02
post #218 of 7450
Don't know if Leno will be HD tonight or not. We will see.
post #219 of 7450
I tried to lock in KOB-DT today for the first time since it lit up and I was unsuccessful. The Unity Motion scan didn't find it, yet on my spectrum analyzer it's at least 30db over noise floor strength (compared to KNME-DT's measly 4-6db over noise floor).

Someone please tell me which subchannel KOB-DT has active, as well as what symbol rate and polarization is being used. It makes no sense why I can't lock it when the signal is so strong so I may need to tweak the parameters of my receiver to get it.

thanks.

robert
post #220 of 7450
Thread Starter 
Hello Sthscan,

KOB-DT is using UHF TV band channel 26 "Upper 500MHz" and the bit rate is 19.4 MB per second since is only fixed symbol rate "That is for C and KU band satellite TV bands that use non stander symbol rate" as for the Polarization is "H" the "V" polarization is very rare in this country other than Europe TV system that use "V".

Last I heard KOB-DT is now running 1 KW ERP....

You might try to turn off the pre amp off line you may be over loading the signal or your antenna has too much gain, if so move your antenna away from the Sandia Crest by few inchs.

Just wondering what kind of STB you are using?

Is your signal meter showing is max out at 100+?

Hopes thats help!!

2-7-02
post #221 of 7450
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Originally posted by N5XZS
KOB-DT is using UHF TV band channel 26 "Upper 500MHz" and the bit rate is 19.4 MB per second since is only fixed symbol rate "That is for C and KU band satellite TV bands that use non
(...)

You might try to turn off the pre amp off line you may be over loading the signal or your antenna has too much gain, if so move your antenna away from the Sandia Crest by few inchs.

Just wondering what kind of STB you are using?

Is your signal meter showing is max out at 100+?


What channel is it? 26.1 or...? I know it's ch 26 and I want the subchannel number.

I don't have a pre-amp and KOB-DT's signal is so strong I'm using indoor rabbit ears and still getting 30 db over noise quality signal!

KNME-DT doesn't even register with rabbit ears due to how weak it is.

I'm using the Unity Motion HDR-1000A satellite/terrestrial STB and it has no numerical signal meter (thus why my readings are with a spectrum analyzer instead of STB strength readings).

i'll try KOB-DT again tomorrow once I get a subchannel number, but for the Olympics and other network HDTV programming, it's moot to get KOB-DT (I just want to be ready for the local news in HDTV in a few years as the only reason I care to receive KOB-DT)

robert
post #222 of 7450
Jay Leno not in HD last night. I think that KOB will be transmitting HD content only during the Olympics. Frank Lilly, director of engineering at KRQE, says that he believes they will be back to standard definition after the Olympics. Hope that is not true.
post #223 of 7450
Thread Starter 
Hello Robert,

My RCA DTC-100 telling me its channel 26.3 off air guide still turned off.

Hopes thats helps....

2-8-02
post #224 of 7450
Does anyone know if the Olympics will be broadcast in Widescreen? The present signal is 4:3 and my tv (Pioneer 510) locks in full mode, so everyone is too fat. JR
post #225 of 7450
The Olympics should be widescreen high-definition and Dolby Digital sound. Currently KOB is just passing their local TV signal on the digital channel. They will be patching the national NBC HD signal starting tomorrow morning and throughout the Olympics. So, stayed tuned sports fans.
post #226 of 7450
Robert:
My Integra is mapping KOB-DT at 4.1. Their drop out problem seems to be largely solved. The upconverted opening ceremonies came across very good. Extremely long but good. Looking forward to today and tommorrow(Monday HD) when Jake Fiala(local kid) competes in Downhill.
Hope this helps
John
post #227 of 7450
The HD version of the Olympics is suppossed to start at 3 pm EST. So maybe we may see it at 1 pm today. We will see. If they use their HD cameras and DD sound right it will be awesome from what I saw last night at the opening ceremonies.
post #228 of 7450
Anyone get any wind damage last night? My ant. (RS vu90) was on a RS tripod that wasn't weighted enough, so it blew over. This morning it was pointed almost straight up in the sky, but I still received almost full signals from Ch. 4 & 5!! Additional cinder blocks are now on the feet of the tripod. Any word from KOB when their HD will actually start? Believe it or not, I'm getting tired of looking at Ashley Judd. JR
post #229 of 7450
Thread Starter 
I just got home from work and I just tuned in KOB-DT's signal and it's HDTV right now!!

The picture is rock steady and it's seems to me they just upgrade their transmitting power, my signal meter is showing in the upper 60 to low 70s.

2-9-02
post #230 of 7450
Getting the Olympics in Hi-Def from KOB-DT !!! A few breakups here and there but it sure looks good. Getting the sound in DD 2.0. Is anyone out there getting the sound in DD 5.1 from KOB-DT? Thank You KOB !!!
post #231 of 7450
I, too, am only receiving DD 2.0 . Picture is great though with a occasional breakups. Now let's get to some competition.
post #232 of 7450
By the way, HDNet is putting out excellent DD 5.1 for the Olympics. The coverage mirrors what is on NBC, at the same time. Curious that KOB-DT can't do the DD 5.1
post #233 of 7450
Not receiving the Olypmpics today at 3:15 pm from KOB. Anyone know why???
post #234 of 7450
Quote:


Originally posted by fjerina
Not receiving the Olypmpics today at 3:15 pm from KOB. Anyone know why???

Same here, but don't know why. What's strange is that they left their carrier on. Normal signal strength, just no picture. This morning, Monday, it is only SD simulcast with ch. 4. Where did the HD go? Maybe they are busy cleaning the lenses. I read some posts about dirty lenses or dead pixels on the HDNet cameras. JR
post #235 of 7450
The opening ceremony in HD was spectacular, and I was hoping to catch Saturdays competitions on HD. The editing of the HD version of the opening ceremony was very nice too. It is too bad they had problems yesterday, but at least I did not invite friends over to glory in the HD experience! I hope they get the HD feed back on, not just the upconvert. It was clear that there was a problem and not anything intentional because the carrier signal was still there.
Horton
post #236 of 7450
I just spoke to someone in engineering at KOB and he said that there was a problem with their HD receiver unit they got from NBC. They rebooted it this morning and it is back on-line now. They didn't know it was out all day yesterday. They know now to monitor this unit while the Olympics are being broadcast over the next 2 weeks. They think so few of us out out there watching.

He also said they do not have the equipment to transmit the sound in Dolby Digital 5.1. They can just do 2-channel.

He also said they will go back to transmitting their standard definition 480i signal on their digital channel after the Olympics for quite some time in the future. Probably even after May 1 since their is so little HD material on NBC and since there are so few of us there watching.

Just wanted to let you know what's going on.

You all may want to send a letter or email to KOB saying how much you enjoyed them transmitting the Olympics in HD so they know WE ARE OUT THERE watching.

You may also want to send a letter to their parent company who is really promoting HD and send them your thanks. They are:

Stanley Hubbard
Hubbard Broadcasting
3415 University Avenue
St. Paul, Minn. 55114
post #237 of 7450
Quote:


Originally posted by fjerina
You all may want to send a letter or email to KOB saying how much you enjoyed them transmitting the Olympics in HD so they know WE ARE OUT THERE watching.
You may also want to send a letter to their parent company who is really promoting HD and send them your thanks. They are:
Stanley Hubbard
Hubbard Broadcasting
3415 University Avenue
St. Paul, Minn. 55114 [/b]


Good idea. Do you happen to have email addresses for either one? Thanks, JR
post #238 of 7450
I found this on the KOBtv.com web site. I already sent a thank you.

Signal Problems and Digital TV
Questions or concerns regarding KOB-TV broadcast signal quality or digital television, including HDTV, can be sent to our Engineering Department via email at dbrown@kobtv.com or by calling (505)243-4411 Monday through Friday between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Mountain Time.

Horton
post #239 of 7450
Don't have email addresses for Hubbard but KOB can be reached at...

Mike Burgess, general manager mburgess@kobtv.com
dbrown, head engineer dbrown@kobtv.com
programming jgaray@kobtv.com
general kobtv@kobtv.com

The Olypmpics looked great last night, Monday, but with the occasional dropouts.
post #240 of 7450
Thanks for the info Frank. I just emailed Burgess with my thank you and asked if he had an email address for Hubbard. Also asked they continue with programming after the Olympics; hope this doesn't die on the vine. JR
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