|Originally posted by Rage2132
Taking this POS back. Yes it's cheap but man does it have problems that I just figured out.
1. Slow channel change
2. awful, and i mean AWFUL picture quality even in HD
3. Constant changing to/from 1080i<->420p and slow to do so
4. Loss of picture needing power off the cable and power on
5. Playback is slow, unrealiable, and pixelated
6. No way to change recording features (IE High, Low, Mid, Video quality, etc..)
For anyone else reading this thread and wondering if the 8000HD is for them, here is "the rest of the story" you need to have to make an informed choice:
1) Slow channel change is due to the pause-live-TV capability. SA could probably do a better job of this (does Tivo have this problem?), but at least right now it's one of the prices you pay for that capability. My PC's PVR solution does something similar. Even so, it's not *that* slow, and I haven't found it to be distracting. It's sure as heck a lot faster than the old Moto 5100 digital tuner I used to have, even if it's not as fast as the Moto 6200 this box replaced.
2) I wholeheartedly dispute the claim of awful PQ in HD. I'll agree the PQ may be worse for analog channels compared to the Moto 6200 box I replaced, but I can tell no difference on digital channels (SD or HD). Others have also reported no difference even using A/B compare with the boxes side-by-side. My HD PQ is as fantastic as it ever was.
3) The box only swaps formats when you switch between channels of different formats. Even when I'm channel surfing, I hit one swap at the beginning of the HD tier, and another swap when I go back to SD content. I'd hardly call that "constant changing from 1080i<>480p". Even so, if the swapping torques you off, there are options. The box can upconvert all signals to 1080i, for instance, and you could use the 8000HD's or your TV's various zoom features to compensate for the upconverted SD content.
4) I have not experienced this behavior, nor have I heard this reported by any other 8000HD users.
5) Playback is "slow"? I don't understand. If you mean "slow to respond to remote commands", it's true that it's not as responsive as my DVD player. However, it's faster than iControl was on my Moto6200. It could be better, but I don't find it to be a significant issue. I don't understand what "unreliable" means in this context. I will agree that recorded analog PQ is not the greatest. However, it's better than VCR quality (IMHO), and since VCR is my only other recording option, I still consider that an improvement.
6) It's true that there are no options for adjusting the recording quality. For digital channels, that wouldn't make sense, as the box simply records the original digital signal exactly as it is transmitted. It would be nice to have that for analog, but oh well.
In direct comparison to the Moto 6200 HD STB this 8000HD replaced at my house, this box is slower to change channels and seems to have poorer analog PQ. It's also slower to swap between 480p/1080i modes. However, the 8000HD's program guide is far superior, its ability to upconvert/downconvert formats is superior, and its dual-tuner capability which allows PIP via the STB is superior.
Then there's that whole recording capability thing...