Hitachi VS810 Owner's Thread - Page 8

A couple of weeks ago, I originally posted my experience with my first 50VS810 that suffered from horrible black levels and green bleed. Since then I have received and returned another unit for similar but different problems. The replacement solved the black level issues completely, but it still suffered from minor green bleed, mis-convergence by about 1 pixel (white text on a black background such as in the menu had a 1 pixel wide green stripe on the left side and 1 pixel wide magenta stripe on the right of the letters, see attached picture), the entire image was rotated about 1 degree counterclockwise, and there were what looked like smudges behind the protective screen that were visible on an all gray screen.

Yesterday, I loaded up the second 810 into my SUV again for another trip back to CC and was pretty concerned about getting a third unit that would have similar problems. CC was accommodating in that they allowed me to take the new tv out of the box and plug it into the wall so that I could look at the menu for mis-convergence and also look at a screen of "snow" to look for green bleed. Although their wasn't perfect convergence, it was nowhere near a 1 pixel shift. I have looked extensively for green bleed now that I have the tv home and I haven't noticed any.

I can finally say that I am a very happy owner of an 810 and am quite pleased with the product I ended up with. This tv has to be one of the best looking tv's outside of plasmas that I have seen. The black levels are great and watching football and others show in HD is truly an eye-opening experience. In fact, I think the picture is clearer than if you were at the game yourself since you aren't relying on 20-20 vision. I should also mention that the Z-Line Designs tv stand (Model ZLN 23541S) and matching component stand from CC are a perfect fit for this tv. Although the tv is wider than the stand (the side speakers hang over the edge on both sides), I like the look. The stand has shiny black glass with a black and silver metal frame which match the silver and piano black case of the 810 perfectly. I'll try to post a picture of that as well if I get a chance. Thanks to everyone here at this forum, it's been quite comforting to hear that others were experiencing similar problems to mine and that they were resolved by exchanging for another tv.

Just as an update, My buddies 810 has had no flaws. It's been a week ot two since i've been over to check it out again, but he is still extremely pleased with this set. Sorry to hear about some of you guys having to exchange sets for new ones. I guess we just got lucky on his or you guys had bad luck. As though of you who have gotten a good one(either the first time or after a swap) know, this is an awesome set. Great black levels and detail for an LCD, and outstanding PQ and WAF. Enjoy these sets and next time i'm over there to check it out again, i'll post more info if needed.

Sorry the picture of mis-convergence didn't get attached previously, so here it is

Well, new 810 arrived on Friday. Green bleed problem is worse. Noticed it the minute they hooked it up. There is a almost solid green patch in the lower right corner and some faint, but present green bleed in the left corner. I'm getting frustrated because the picture on the 810 is great, and the SSE seems lessened on this set (or I'm getting used to it) but the green bleed is horrible. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.

Since I have another 28 days on my CC return, I may try to get Hitachi out here next weekend. If nothing else, they can have someone see for themselves a problem that seems to be plaguing at least a batch of their sets.

How tall is this tv with the Hitachi stand?

Hi All -

Just wanted to add nmy two cents here. I purches my 50vs810 over labor day weekend at my local CC in Sacramento, CA. I have yet to recognize the green bleed problem described in this forum.

Did I luck out? Or pehaps this problem just affected a batch of sets distributed to certain areas?

If there is a tell-tale way to determine if the set exhibits the problem please let me know and I'll check it out on mine.

Thanks,

-Bill

Thanks Bill & Wup.

With my first set, the problem was noticable primarily on 4:3 programming with grey bars on the side. You could also see it if you ran the screen wipe function. If you tab back to page 7 of this thread, my post of 9-29-04 has a picture of the problem w/ grey bars. The problem was only occasionally noticable w/ regular programming, if for example, there was a white object (snow, etc.) in the bottom right corner. I tried a screen wipe but to no avail.

With the second set, there is a similar, but less pronounced problem in the bottom left corner, and a more pronnounced problem in the bottom right corner. The concentration of green in the right corner is more localized, but also more dense, and you can even see it during regular programming. I'll post a picure later tonight.

Hitachi is closed today for Columbus Day; I hope to call for a tech tomorrow.

The 810 beats all others except for one thing. Great Pic's and Blacks

There is something wrong with it.

Green Bleed.

After 3 different 810's that I returned and the 2 different CC that I when to, I had to return the TV and went with something else.

Best way to describe it is that the skin tone on a 5 o'clock shadow has a yellow to green tint.

Movie (Pirates of the Caribbean) when Johnny is under the small canoe trying to get to the ship. If you pause it and look at his face you will see what I'm talking about.

So out of six different 810's all of them had the same problem.

I called Hitachi and they had not heard of the problem and wanted a tech to look at it. My 30 days were coming up and said that I would be returning the 3rd 810 today.

Good luck

Ok, as promised, photos of green bleed on set # 2. The first is a full screen shot of Letterman on CBS, with the grey bars. The green is most prevelant in the lower right corner and lower left side. Note the blotch is not a shadow caused by the camera, as you can see in the next picture, which is a close up.

I'm at a loss. Hopefully I can get some answers from a Hitachi tech.

Close up of the green bleed. I noticed tonight that the pattern does seem to change. Tonight it seemed more dispersed and less concentrated. Previously, it was darker (ie more concentrated), but covered a smaller area.

No bleed issues at all. The latest Discovery HD fiber system camera undersea clips are STUNNING !

In the '90s we had a porblem with 1,000 Fax units, they all had a strange mechanical problem. It was traced to the docks, seems the container was dropped 5 feet at unloading and noted as such on some docs.

Could be the issue here.....dan

Hi All -

Well I had the hardest time detecting this problem, but I finally spotted it watching one of my DVD's this afternoon.

Attached is a screenshot I took this evening, replicating the problem. As you can clearly see there is a large green/greenish patch towards the middle/bottom-right of the screen.

Boy am I glad I am still under the 30 day warranty!





-Bill

Bill
That was funny!
How do you like your tv, and that marantz 7400?

Bill,
Actually, there is a slight greenish cast on the shot I'm looking at. It's to left of his bicep in the shadow area on the ground. Unless this movie was shot with a green hue because of its storyline, it appears to have a green haze on it.

Hi, everybody!
I've also just bought Hitachi 810 set.
And I'm not really happy with the picture. Some channel look not as good as I expected.
I don't have HDTV yet to compare with the unit, than I've seen in CC.
The other problem, that I hear some noise when I'm watching my favorite HGTV....
Is it a problem of my unit or my cable company?
I am still under 30 days warranty.
Lena

Some new owners on here...

Do any of you have a lot of windows in the room with your TV? Is there a lot of glare off the screen?

The place I would have my TV for the first couple of months would have windows directly opposite the TV...

While we are at it there a difference in the glare form various lightsources?
Direct Sunlight
Sunlight.
Floruescent.
etc.

Where I want to put my new TV it will never get direct sunlight, but it will
see "daylight" from the sun.

Received my 50VS810 saturday along with the Marantz 7400.
Great Picture, I will be calibrating it using a do it yourself disc as delivery showed the contrast/shaprness and maybe 1 more all at 100%. (made a few adjustments myself first)
I have DTV and HDTV running into this at 1080i and it's fantastic. I'm sitting about 7.5 feet away and do not see any screen door effect.
I do believe that 8-10 feet would be ideal distance. I have 720p from the Sammy 841 running for DVD and it's even more phenomenal than the HDTV signal ( think this should be the case anyway ) Both set top box and DVD are running DVItoHDMI inputs directly to the TV. Yes there is a glare if it's in a highly sunlite room but it's about half as bad as the old crt ers, but has a "day/night" mode you can switch to to brighten up the picture, otherwise just shut the drapes/blinds. Other than the Pedastal Sammy The Hitachi along with it's matching stand is really second to none within the RPTV area and well worth the $$$ you'll pay for this top quality picture.

I finally got to see one of these in person over the weekend. They had Aladdin playing and the color looked great. The blacks looked black. They had a grand wega III right next to it and you could definitely see the hitachi had better pq. I really like the set, but I still want to see one of the xs grand wega models.

Yes I have windows opposite and to the side. Glare is a problem. I suggest you invest in some blinds PackFan. No green bleed...but other anamolies. When changing channels I sometimes get "dig:1" which pops up on the screen for a few seconds and then goes away. Next, sometimes the channel to channel transitions are not smooth .... there is a series of unrecognizable distortions before it tunes in. Finally, I get a super HD PQ, but the digital channels through Comcast are a lot grainier than anticipated. I watched Monday night football which I think is usually HD..but found the PQ to be less than. (I sure miss Direct TV0. By the way, I am using a DVI to HDMI interface with my Comcast HD set top box. and I have experimented w/the settings posted elswhere on this thread...stilll grainy on the digitals. Don't regret the buy, but not exstatic if you know what I mean.

I have blinds, but I find that enough light gets through to be distracting on my CRT TV... I'm wondering if it would be the same for the Hitachi...

After reading every post in this thread last night, I could not wait to go and look at one of these vs 810's. I would say over all it was my favorite rp lcd or dlp that I saw at circuit city. I asked about the vx910 and they said that they could not get that one. Aftwer seeing the 810 the only thing I did not like about it was the reflection off of the screen, so I was hoping to find a 915. The only other model I saw that was in the running was the jvc dila. Has anyone compared the two side by side, and what makes one better than the other?
Does anyone know of any retailers that are selling the 910? I called Hitachi today and they said that video only was in my area. When I got to video only they said "no we decided not to sell that one because the reflection on the screen was so bad, and the Toshiba is better for less money"
Any comments?
Thanks

I haven't checked out this thread since i got my 60VS810, i wanted a unbiased look at it. My salesman at C.C. say's i got one of the first ones shipped, i got this one on sept. 28th and absolutely love it. I feel people looking on in this thread need to hear some good things about this TV. It is in my opinion the best RP tv out there right now.

I was originally worried about two things, glare and being to close to the TV set since it is the 60" version. I'm sitting 8.5 away, i'm not a videophile but I did my research based of this site and seeing tv's with my own eyes'. It took my two months to pick this tv. It may be that my eye just isn't trained to see all these problems people report but I have not noticed any with my set.

Glare: There is a glare, I have a huge window directly facing the set, when the tv is off, it makes for a great mirror, but once you turn on the tv, it all but goes away. I had a 36" crt sitting in the same spot, the glare was terrible, i had to shut the blinds. With the 810, i can actually leave it open, i like it closed just because i think it flushes out the contrast a bit in the picture and when i'm watching my new 4k beauty i like to set the mood right! If glare is all that is holding you back, buy this set. Packfan you've been talking about this set for at least a month. You just need to pull the trigger and sit back and enjoy. It sure will make watching the Packers a lot more fun then last night. I'm in Madison and the only reason i watched the whole game was because this TV made it a whole new experience in HD.

Digital effects: Sitting 8.5 feet away really worried me, i thought i'd see all kinds of problems but that hasn't been the case. HD is amazing, HD off the air(my local channels) i see more problems with the signal from the stations then with the TV, you get a good signal- TV looks great, get a bad signal and the TV will show it. HD signal = very small digital effects, you have to really look and then you'll see them every once in a great while. I believe a lot of us on this thread buy these TV's just to find problems with them or are trained to, when what we should be doing is watching the shows/movies/sports itself. If you just sit down and watch a show on this TV, it will blow your mind in HD. SD was far better then i expected, i heard a lot of horror stories which might have prepared me better. This tv isn't made for SD but i'm more then happy to watch SD if i have to.

Greenish tint: Nothing, i have not seen this at all, i've tried and tried. I've had friends over and ask them to look for this supposed green tint and nothing. I think if your witnessing this problem return your set and get one that is working right. I would be more then willing to try some scenes that people request to see this problem. I've tried hulk, not sure if THAT movie is the best to test for this, tried Empire strikes back, figured the white snow would show something, i slowed motioned it, i paused it, i left it alone....nothing.

DVD: I love watching movies, i'm still waiting for some of the new HDMI players to come out, Denon 2910, Panny s97, etc. so right now i have a four year old non-progressive scan Sony, with this piece of junk the picture has been really good. I wasn't expecting much with this player but the tv chip must be doing a good job of scanning because the picture looks great. A friend brought over his denon 2200 and it was awesome. The pq is more film like then i would prefer but none the less awesome. I didn't even calibrate and this setup just kicked.

I can't stress enough how great this set is, like i said i'm not a videophile just a person that loves movies and now loves HD programing. Can i get an amen for Bikini destination?! I had the HLP50 and i saw rainbows after i read how to see them from this set.....but the main thing i didn't like was the digital artifacts. The same distance away i could see all kinds of problems. In my opinion, it's either the kirk or the hitachi, forget the toshiba, panny, lg, sony.....this is a Hitachi owners thread and i couldn't be more happy with my purchase not to mention C.C. outstanding customer service.

I'm willing to test this set so if anyone has requests please post or email them to me. Specifics pictures, anything.....let me know.

Only my three cents.

Hey All - Just wanted to clarify, I am NOT experiencing the green-bleed problem on my set. This was just lame attempt at a sense of humor MY sincere apologies if I threw anyone off!

I like the marantz a lot. Funny thing though - the selling point for me on that receiver was the component video upconversion. I wanted to do the one-button thing for switching all my inputs.

Well, then I went out and bought this hitachi on an impulse buy (labor day weekend sales and all). Now I am using the cablecard for HD/Digital Cable, and currently a samsung hd841 dvi dvd player. So I'm back to square 1 and programming macros in my universal remote again

So, when you have digital cable you can't send it to the component input 1?