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post #5461 of 5686
Afternoon update. I powered it up and it needed about a 1/2 inch shift downward.
post #5462 of 5686
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Afternoon update. I powered it up and it needed about a 1/2 inch shift downward.

Still drifting, eh? Bummer.
post #5463 of 5686
Yeah... a bit. A friend of mine has one and said that his drifted a bit when he first got it but then it kind of settled in after a while and he only needed to shift it about once per week. I guess based on the experience so far that the shift hasn't been completely addressed but greatly improved.
post #5464 of 5686
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Yeah... a bit. A friend of mine has one and said that his drifted a bit when he first got it but then it kind of settled in after a while and he only needed to shift it about once per week. I guess based on the experience so far that the shift hasn't been completely addressed but greatly improved.

There've been so many members posting about drifting that I'm not so sure it's a "fixable" problem. Seems like a design problem. Anyway, it put me off enough to delay upgrading my HS20.
post #5465 of 5686
I don't blame ya. I'd probably do the same in your position. As this was my first projecter, I think I will be happy with the purchase after this fix. But I wouldn't go from a workable solution to this one necessarily.
post #5466 of 5686
My results from Sony Reapir Center after a few days of use:

1. Lens Shift - It's actually worse now. Not only does the image still shift, but adjustment is not as smooth as it was prior to repair. I doubt they did anything here and the shipping back and forth has caused a "looser" adjustment wheel.

2. They did not return my lens cap that I shipped with my pj. It was wrapped in plastic wrap, so I don't think the lens would have gotten scratched, but their packaging was less than ideal.

3. They replaced my lamp with a new one. It works like new (as it should).

4. They replaced my fan with a more powerful one. I can hear it slightly more but it's not at all a problem. I still here a ticking noise from time to time though which troubles me.

5. I can't recall how to check the firmware version, so I'm not sure what new firmware they would have put on it.

6. I purposely did not clean out (or replace) my air filter prior to sending it to them. I figured when they went in to do their repair, they would have at least cleaned it a bit. That did not happen.

I'm obviously happy to have my projector back, but I am disappointed about the condition in which it came back to me. I'm not sure they did anything other than replace a fan and the lamp. The looser lens adjustment and my missing lens cap have me questioning their quality control at the repair center. The projector was mailed back to me in the same box in which I shipped it (my original box), but was not packaged nearly as nicely as when I sent it. I think I will write a letter to Sony Corp and express my concerns.
post #5467 of 5686
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Originally Posted by copter View Post

I think I will write a letter to Sony Corp and express my concerns.

Let us know if you get any action from them as your results so far are unacceptable.
post #5468 of 5686
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Originally Posted by copter View Post

My results from Sony Reapir Center after a few days of use:

1. Lens Shift - It's actually worse now. Not only does the image still shift, but adjustment is not as smooth as it was prior to repair. I doubt they did anything here and the shipping back and forth has caused a "looser" adjustment wheel.

2. They did not return my lens cap that I shipped with my pj. It was wrapped in plastic wrap, so I don't think the lens would have gotten scratched, but their packaging was less than ideal.

3. They replaced my lamp with a new one. It works like new (as it should).

4. They replaced my fan with a more powerful one. I can hear it slightly more but it's not at all a problem. I still here a ticking noise from time to time though which troubles me.

5. I can't recall how to check the firmware version, so I'm not sure what new firmware they would have put on it.

6. I purposely did not clean out (or replace) my air filter prior to sending it to them. I figured when they went in to do their repair, they would have at least cleaned it a bit. That did not happen.

I'm obviously happy to have my projector back, but I am disappointed about the condition in which it came back to me. I'm not sure they did anything other than replace a fan and the lamp. The looser lens adjustment and my missing lens cap have me questioning their quality control at the repair center. The projector was mailed back to me in the same box in which I shipped it (my original box), but was not packaged nearly as nicely as when I sent it. I think I will write a letter to Sony Corp and express my concerns.



To enter the Service Menu, on the remote quickly click:

ENTER, ENTER, UP, DOWN, ENTER.
When prompted to enter SERVICE MODE click UP for Yes.

To return to User mode click the same sequence then when prompted to return to USER MODE click UP for Yes.
post #5469 of 5686
Hi everyone,
I am at about 1130 hours on my bulb, and last week I noticed that the picture is considerably darker. I am projecting on a 98" BOC screen. Does this sound like normal wear or does this mean the bulb is about to go. Whatever the reason, I really don't like watching it like this

Thanks,
Kevin
post #5470 of 5686
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Originally Posted by kroberts1972 View Post

Hi everyone,
I am at about 1130 hours on my bulb, and last week I noticed that the picture is considerably darker. I am projecting on a 98" BOC screen. Does this sound like normal wear or does this mean the bulb is about to go. Whatever the reason, I really don't like watching it like this

Thanks,
Kevin


Ah yes, the evil "dimming of the bulb" -- yes, it's about to go. Consider yourself fortunate - my first blub only lasted 822 hours.

You might want to replace it before it explodes and leaves little glass shards all over the bulb compartment.

Sorry!

HS
post #5471 of 5686
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Originally Posted by SFNSXguy View Post

Ah yes, the evil "dimming of the bulb" -- yes, it's about to go. Consider yourself fortunate - my first blub only lasted 822 hours.

You might want to replace it before it explodes and leaves little glass shards all over the bulb compartment.

Sorry!

HS

You were lucky ! Mine only lasted 622 hours !
post #5472 of 5686
hi all,

just wanting to give the filter a clean on my sony hs51. can someone tell me where it is exactly, before i get the ladder out up high!

thanks.
post #5473 of 5686
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Originally Posted by rezokl1 View Post

hi all,

just wanting to give the filter a clean on my sony hs51. can someone tell me where it is exactly, before i get the ladder out up high!

thanks.

If your projector is in the "table top - upright position", the filter is behind the plastic cover just above the rear connections.
post #5474 of 5686
Cool thanks.

Also, is there a summarised topic of "the best tweaks" for the sony hs51?

I know people make them "better" but 200 pages of thread....!!!!
post #5475 of 5686
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Originally Posted by rezokl1 View Post

Cool thanks.

Also, is there a summarised topic of "the best tweaks" for the sony hs51?

I know people make them "better" but 200 pages of thread....!!!!

Unfortunately, the standard practice on the AVS forums, is a continuing dialog which as you observed, contribute to LONG threads.

In order to find the the wonderful creamy center of the HS-51 calibration donut, you are going to have to read thru or atleast skim over the length of the thread.
post #5476 of 5686
Just thought I'd post one last report on my lens shift after living with it for a couple weeks. It definitely will still shift on its own. I do need to adjust it from time to time. However, it is so much improved that it doesn't bother me much anymore. I hosted a gaming/movie night last night. We had the system up loud for about 6 hours and I shifted it a tiny bit one time. I can live with it. I am much happier with my system now. However, people *should* take this into account when buying an HS51.
post #5477 of 5686
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Just thought I'd post one last report on my lens shift after living with it for a couple weeks. It definitely will still shift on its own. I do need to adjust it from time to time. However, it is so much improved that it doesn't bother me much anymore. I hosted a gaming/movie night last night. We had the system up loud for about 6 hours and I shifted it a tiny bit one time. I can live with it. I am much happier with my system now. However, people *should* take this into account when buying an HS51.


As I reported some time back, I decided to try turning the thumb-wheels to the end of their travel (one way or the other) then centering the image. Before trying this the image would shift an inch or so left or right, and sometimes a bit up or down, every couple of days. Since going to the end of travel first, then centering, the image has not shifted -- even with high volume sub-booming programs.

That's just my experience, yours may vary.

HS-
post #5478 of 5686
Are these lens adjustments viscously damped, mechanically damped or something? Could a set screw or something be installed to lock them? I hear reaper in that he can "live with it," but this is a dealbreaker for anyone whose presently using a projector that never drifts.
post #5479 of 5686
I wish I read this yesterday, but my bulb got darker and darker over the last week, and then.... POP. I had a spare. 822 hours. I had it on low output. How dare they advertise 3000 hour life. Has anyone complained to Sony or tried for replacement under manufac warrantee???
post #5480 of 5686
I think the shift is mechanical but I do not know how to use a set screw. Perhaps studying the review that showed the machine being taken apart might yield an answer. I can't think of the website name... it was in a different language. Man, I have been out of the projector scene for a while. Ugh.
post #5481 of 5686
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

I think the shift is mechanical but I do not know how to use a set screw. Perhaps studying the review that showed the machine being taken apart might yield an answer. I can't think of the website name... it was in a different language. Man, I have been out of the projector scene for a while. Ugh.

I'm thinking you could turn it on end and pour a bunch of epoxy in it. That should fix it.
post #5482 of 5686
Reaper,

Perhaps this is the site you were thinking of. http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projek...0/HS50Test.htm
post #5483 of 5686
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Originally Posted by fin648 View Post

Reaper,

Perhaps this is the site you were thinking of. http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projek...0/HS50Test.htm

And the Google translation.
post #5484 of 5686
Yes... that is it... and the google translation is as much "teh suck" as it always was. It stops about a page down or so. But the images may help someone brave enough to hack their $3500 (MSRP) projector.
post #5485 of 5686
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Originally Posted by reaper View Post

Yes... that is it... and the google translation is as much "teh suck" as it always was. It stops about a page down or so. But the images may help someone brave enough to hack their $3500 (MSRP) projector.

Ha ha, I noticed that after I posted the link. I swear when it first appeared the translation was complete. Well, as "complete" as those things ever are.
post #5486 of 5686
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Originally Posted by Dr. Joe F View Post

I wish I read this yesterday, but my bulb got darker and darker over the last week, and then.... POP. I had a spare. 822 hours. I had it on low output. How dare they advertise 3000 hour life. Has anyone complained to Sony or tried for replacement under manufac warrantee???

I think there is a way to create a poll on the website (i.e. how many hours did your bulb last (<500, 500-750, 750-1000, ...). It would be interesting to get a broad summary of results and send them to Sony. Mine went at 322 hours with lamp in low mode. If it was just a cost issue, I wouldn't mind so much, but it is a major pain to dismount the projector, send it back to Sony for repair, reinstall and set up colors and alignment, etc.
post #5487 of 5686
Mine died (is dying) this past week. 498 hours. 3000 my ASS!!

post #5488 of 5686
Ooh, looked through a couple pages back and noticed the 550 hour cutoff remark by masterpasser. Was going to call sony later today and bitch about the premature bulb failure... good to know these things beforehand
post #5489 of 5686
Don't want to rain on everyone's outrage, but I'm at 1200 hours on my HS20 and, other than the picture seeming a bit dim, it's fine. My dilemma is do I buy a new projector - the 51a seems to have gotten to $2k - or buy a new bulb and wait a while to buy a pj?
post #5490 of 5686
I'd replace the bulb or try a high gain screen. I have 900+ hrs using a SS and it's still very bright and punchy in low light mode.

I plan to keep my hs51 for 1 more year until my 2 year warranty is up then upgrade pj's. I want a significant improvement in pq so am hoping for 3 chipers or a Ruby 2 under 3-4k by next year.
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