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post #5581 of 5686
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Originally Posted by SVonhof View Post

I am sure.

Not sure how long this image will be available at Best Buy's site, but here goes:

We'll if it truly upconverts official studio released 480i DVD's over component then this is great news!
post #5582 of 5686
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Originally Posted by SVonhof View Post

I am sure.

Not sure how long this image will be available at Best Buy's site, but here goes:

You bought this from bestbuy!!?
Never mind I found it.
post #5583 of 5686
It does say that if it is has the copy protection flag or whatever, the best it will do is 480p. I don't know how many DVD's have that, but when I was watching "Underworld Evolutions", "Chronicles of Riddick" and "Firewall", they all looked better than 480p to me.
post #5584 of 5686
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Originally Posted by SVonhof View Post

It does say that if it is has the copy protection flag or whatever, the best it will do is 480p. I don't know how many DVD's have that, but when I was watching "Underworld Evolutions", "Chronicles of Riddick" and "Firewall", they all looked better than 480p to me.

While watching any movie simply bring up the Sony Menu and click on information. From what I remember it will indicate the source input format.

Gary
post #5585 of 5686
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

Has any one gone over 1500 hrs on the lamp and still has enough lumen?

Yep, im on 1900 hours and my PJ is still performing very well.
post #5586 of 5686
Thanks hawkeye3.1 for the heads up on the bulb pricing.

I have 1517 hrs on my HS-51 and just ordered the new bulb.

I thought I would reward the Sony with the new bulb for Christmas for being so good to me over the past 2 years.

I have no way to measure the lumens decline over the years. I am projecting onto a Dalite HP 100" diag 16 x 9 screen. Still looks pretty good, but as I have learned from all of the info here that I must be down about 50%.

Plan to wait till next year an upgrade to the Pearl or JVC RS-1, or who knows what will be the latest bargain 1080 projector next fall. They sure are tempting, but I am still a happy guy with what I have for now. Run a HTPC to upscale SD DVDs and Toshiba HD-DVD for movies and Scientific 8300 HD DVR for all the rest.

Steve
post #5587 of 5686
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Originally Posted by gdemott View Post

While watching any movie simply bring up the Sony Menu and click on information. From what I remember it will indicate the source input format.

Gary

I will try that. Thanks!
post #5588 of 5686
Yup I got one and disappointed. It won't pass the copy right DVD in 1080i.
post #5589 of 5686
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Originally Posted by CaspianM View Post

Yup I got one and disappointed. It won't pass the copy right DVD in 1080i.

We'll thats exactly what I thought would happen over component. Over HDMI it should scale to 1080i with no problem.

Gary
post #5590 of 5686
CaspianM, are you using an HS50/51/60? If so, why would you want 1080i anyway? I it doesn't do 720p over the component either, then that's a different thing.
post #5591 of 5686
Well I do have a CRT FP that needs to be feed 1080i.
I have been using a Zenith that does 1080i over analog but it has some pixel cropping.
I had a small issue with my HS60 and is returned but I might get another one once in stock.
For now I am using my Sharp DLP that has no HDMI either.
post #5592 of 5686
Just got a brand new HS51 from reputable online vendor. Connected everything. but the picture shows only in black and white. Tried several options by connecting Component video, S-video, Composite cable. Didn't make any difference. Any suggestions what might be causing this problem. Wanted to see if I can get help here before going to the sony support line.

Thanks,
Prasad
post #5593 of 5686
Most likely you have connection issue check your wires.
Is it 51 or 51a?
post #5594 of 5686
Black and white?

Please list the connections you have used so we may help you better.
post #5595 of 5686
Oh he has the same issue with all interfaces. Then it cannot be the cabling. Got be the source if not the Sony.
post #5596 of 5686
Doh, you are right.

Prasad, have you tried a different source? Different DVD player (even if it is an old one without the newer connectors)?
post #5597 of 5686
Thank u all for taking the initiative to help.

The model is HS51, not 51A. Here are the connections I have tried so far:

-- From Bose Receiver using S-Video to the Projector. I never even get the picture.
-- From Bose Receiver using a composite video cable to the Projector. I get the picture, but its in black and white.
-- From a DVD Player using component video cable to the projector. Same as above, picture is black and white only.

For all the above attempts, I set the "Input" option in the projector menu to be 'Auto'.

Here are some of the things that I plan to do tomorrow (as suggested):
-- Check to make sure that those cables are working fine by connecting to another source and verifying they are ok. These have been used before, but want to rule out them as a cause.
-- Get another DVD player as a source and see if that makes any difference.
-- See if using HDMI cable makes any difference. Have to buy that now.

I will post the results after my tests. But you guys can think of anything else, please post them here.

I got an question about the menu in the projector. When I try to select the source of the signal, if I remember correctly, I see only four options (Auto, Computer, Component, Video RGB or something like that). Why are there only these options, when I have other inputs like HDMI in the back of the unit? Does Auto cover all of them?

Thanks,
Prasad
post #5598 of 5686
Prasad, I have not tried anything on my HS51A except for component and s-video and both were fine out of the box. I did not set mine to auto, although I think that is stock, but it does't seem to pick up the component signal automatically, so I have that button pick in my macro on my remote.

FYI, don't go out and buy an HDMI cable from Monster Cable and pay $100 or more, just get "El cheapo" and it should work fine, especially if it's short.
post #5599 of 5686
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Originally Posted by yarlagdd View Post

. When I try to select the source of the signal, if I remember correctly, I see only four options (Auto, Computer, Component, Video RGB or something like that). Why are there only these options, when I have other inputs like HDMI in the back of the unit? Does Auto cover all of them?

Thanks,
Prasad

The 4 options above only apply to the INPUT-A connection on the back of the HS51. (VGA CONNECTOR).

To connect via HDMI cycle thru the various inputs using the INPUT on the remote or on the SIDE of the HS51.

Gary
post #5600 of 5686
HS51 has been discontinued for a while now. Unless it is refurbished and was sold at a low price. There are some major differences once you go to 51A/60. Just want to make sure you are aware. When you get B&W picture means your connection is done only with Y signal. If you try different cables (you can use some cheap audio cable for testing for component) and a different source then it is the sony input module that is defective.
post #5601 of 5686
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Originally Posted by yarlagdd View Post

Just got a brand new HS51 from reputable online vendor. Connected everything. but the picture shows only in black and white. Tried several options by connecting Component video, S-video, Composite cable. Didn't make any difference. Any suggestions what might be causing this problem. Wanted to see if I can get help here before going to the sony support line.

Thanks,
Prasad

Hope you paid under $1300-1400. New 51A's are $2k at Best Buy even.
post #5602 of 5686
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Originally Posted by mimason View Post

Hope you paid under $1300-1400. New 51A's are $2k at Best Buy even.

Nope HS60 is was 1700 at local BB last night and can be owned much less online but not BB. Great PJ and great price.
post #5603 of 5686
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Originally Posted by BT1 View Post

Thanks hawkeye3.1 for the heads up on the bulb pricing.

I have 1517 hrs on my HS-51 and just ordered the new bulb.

I thought I would reward the Sony with the new bulb for Christmas for being so good to me over the past 2 years.

I have no way to measure the lumens decline over the years. I am projecting onto a Dalite HP 100" diag 16 x 9 screen. Still looks pretty good, but as I have learned from all of the info here that I must be down about 50%.

Plan to wait till next year an upgrade to the Pearl or JVC RS-1, or who knows what will be the latest bargain 1080 projector next fall. They sure are tempting, but I am still a happy guy with what I have for now. Run a HTPC to upscale SD DVDs and Toshiba HD-DVD for movies and Scientific 8300 HD DVR for all the rest.

Steve

So how does HD_DVD look on the hs-51? I am trying to decide weather to wait until I can afford a new pearl or rs-1 or take the plunge now and get an hd-dvd player or ps3. Is hd dvd clearly better on the hs-51 or is just marginally better. How does hd-dvd compare to ota hd or satellite hd? I am running my hs-51 with a sony dvp-ns999es dvd player using monster component cable. Picture is very good, I am just curious as heck to know what hd-dvd looks like with this pj.
post #5604 of 5686
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Originally Posted by merv43 View Post

So how does HD_DVD look on the hs-51?

In a word, exceptional. Watching films at OAR with far superior audio and virtually no compression artifacting is the bomb. Until I got the HD-A1 I had never experienced 3D-like imagery from cable HD or upscaled DVD.
post #5605 of 5686
merv43,

I only have watched about 12 HD-DVDs. I own Pitch Black, COR and Last Samurai. I have been renting from Netflix for the rest. All play great with a quick cleaning before play.

To date COR HD-DVD is the best image I have seen. Seabiscuit HD-DVD comes in second. All the HD-DVDs I have seen look significantly better on my HS-51 than any upscaled DVDs thru my HTPC running TT, or HD cable offerings. The true HD soundtrack from POTO was outstanding thru 5.1 analog. I am very much looking forward to more titles with the true HD sound track. The sound track of Polar Express was also very good.

A close second are some of the specials on HD discovery and some movies on HDnet. HBO HD does not look much better than many upscaled SD DVDs thru the HTPC.

I am very happy with the Toshiba A1 updated with the 2.0/1.0A.2.05 software disk from Toshiba and only paid $365 thru the Continental FFP. Great deal that I am not sure is still current.

Take the plunge for either of the new HD formats, but I am in the camp that HD-DVD offers better value at this time. I will probably get a Blu ray player when the absolutely have to have title come in that flavor only. For me that might be Kill Bill?

Steve
post #5606 of 5686
Thank you all for ur help. Was able to fix it with using a different cables. Also, its good to know about the difference between Input-A option and the input options on the remote.

BTW, the price was decent enough and it was not refurbished. Also, I will keep in mind as far as HDMI is concerned.

Thanks,
Prasad
post #5607 of 5686
Quote:
Originally Posted by BT1 View Post

merv43,

I only have watched about 12 HD-DVDs. I own Pitch Black, COR and Last Samurai. I have been renting from Netflix for the rest. All play great with a quick cleaning before play.

To date COR HD-DVD is the best image I have seen. Seabiscuit HD-DVD comes in second. All the HD-DVDs I have seen look significantly better on my HS-51 than any upscaled DVDs thru my HTPC running TT, or HD cable offerings. The true HD soundtrack from POTO was outstanding thru 5.1 analog. I am very much looking forward to more titles with the true HD sound track. The sound track of Polar Express was also very good.

A close second are some of the specials on HD discovery and some movies on HDnet. HBO HD does not look much better than many upscaled SD DVDs thru the HTPC.

I am very happy with the Toshiba A1 updated with the 2.0/1.0A.2.05 software disk from Toshiba and only paid $365 thru the Continental FFP. Great deal that I am not sure is still current.

Take the plunge for either of the new HD formats, but I am in the camp that HD-DVD offers better value at this time. I will probably get a Blu ray player when the absolutely have to have title come in that flavor only. For me that might be Kill Bill?

Steve

Thanks BT1, great advise, overstock has a good deal on the toshiba hd-dvd player. Thanks again.
post #5608 of 5686
merv43,

Good luck and enjoy the show!

Let us all know how your new experience plays out.

Steve
post #5609 of 5686
hawkeye3.1,

Thanks again on the reminder regarding the low bulb replacement cost.

I just installed it this afternoon and the image is back to where I remember being excited about the HS-51 in the first place. Great value!

I have been cheating and running the projector in HI lamp mode and dynamic or brighter display mode to watch a variety of sources. The new bulb has me back to LOW lamp mode with AUTO iris. A great improvement! I will go back and recalibrate tomorrow.

I hope to enjoy the HS-51 for about 9 to 12 months and experiment with a CH setup (115" wide X 49" high HP screen) with a DIY anamorphic lense with my HTPC and TT doing the stretch on SD DVDs. With HD-DVD, I will just zoom until a HTPC solution is available.

Thanks again,

Steve
post #5610 of 5686
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Originally Posted by BT1 View Post

I hope to enjoy the HS-51 for about 9 to 12 months and experiment with a CH setup (115" wide X 49" high HP screen) with a DIY anamorphic lens....

Steve, anamorphic DIY? Didn't know there was such a thing... Can you expand on that?
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