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post #271 of 622
What I meant was would they be as good as current 59avi or 3910 etc for HDMI upscaling? thnx
post #272 of 622
For 480i disks, I would bet that the HD players will not be as good as the 59ai or 3910 (except for maybe the top-of-the-line HD players, in the $3000+ territory). Of course, they'll outperform the 59ai and 3910 if you compare a true HD DVD played on an HD player versus an upscaled 480i version of the same movie on the 59ai or 3910. But for your current 480i library, I bet you'd be better off playing them on a 59ai or 3910. Again, nobody will know for sure until they're actually available.
post #273 of 622
FWIW, i just heard from a friend who works at Yamaha that its not due out until May 1st. I'm about ready to give up here.
post #274 of 622
This is a prime example of why I won't put a deposit on a product, unless it is actually out and available to be sold.
post #275 of 622
My dealer went to the line show in Oakland, CA this week and they said the 2500 and the C950 will be out in about two weeks (so May 1st seems correct). They were taking orders on both and he showed me the glossy brochure they gave him which he says is what he waits for from Yamaha before he believes anything is real.

Jay
post #276 of 622
276 posts for a player that isn't even out yet. Incredible.
post #277 of 622
I saw 3 online shops, one in UK and 2 in US, saying that they have stocks of this model. Had anybody placed an order?
post #278 of 622
bump?
post #279 of 622
Hi everyone,

Got an email from Greg (?) at Vann's and was told that they expect the S2500 in by the first week of May. Hopefully it's true. Too bad we won't be able to buy the unit via the Internet.
post #280 of 622
So....the S2500 seems like it will retail for ~$800...and I'm seeing Pioneer DV-59avi's online for ~$700 nowadays....so remind me again why the Yammie is attractive? Do we expect it will show up for , say $600 online anytime soon?
post #281 of 622
The Yamaha has Faroudja, which also means it will suffer from macroblocking depending on your display. No macroblocking with the Pioneer.
post #282 of 622
I thought one of the Yamahas that had the Farouja chip got really great reviews in secrets--s1500?. I thought Kris said that they got it right using that chip? Maybe I'm mistaken.
post #283 of 622
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Originally posted by rynopr
I thought one of the Yamahas that had the Farouja chip got really great reviews in secrets--s1500?. I thought Kris said that they got it right using that chip? Maybe I'm mistaken.

Actually, the Secret's review was very mediocre. It had macroblocking, black crush, and failed many of the tests. It scored only a 63.
post #284 of 622
I was told S2500, 30 more days away?
post #285 of 622
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Originally posted by Kevin C Brown
The Yamaha has Faroudja, which also means it will suffer from macroblocking depending on your display. No macroblocking with the Pioneer.

Is it unreasonable to believe that the inordinate delay in the release of the S2500 was to correct the macroblocking problem with the Faroudja chip?
post #286 of 622
or to upgrade hdmi?
post #287 of 622
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Originally posted by jamese777
Is it unreasonable to believe that the inordinate delay in the release of the S2500 was to correct the macroblocking problem with the Faroudja chip?

Yes, an unreasonable assumption considering every single Faroudja player has MB potential (I can't believe Yamaha somehow figured it out when nobody else has). Also, the delay is not unexpected (Yamaha has delayed the release of every single DVD player they have come out with over the past several years).
post #288 of 622
I thought one of the Yamahas that had the Farouja chip got really great reviews in secrets--s1500?. I thought Kris said that they got it right using that chip? Maybe I'm mistaken.
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I thought one of the Yamahas that had the Farouja chip got really great reviews in secrets--s1500?. I thought Kris said that they got it right using that chip? Maybe I'm mistaken.

You maybe thinking of the 2300 MKII, which I believe did very well in the Secrets review. Actually I own one and have been very happy with the performance, both video and audio.

JTMav
post #289 of 622
Yes, that was the one. Doesn't it have a Farouja chip? Anyway, if they did it once maybe they can do it again. One never knows.
post #290 of 622
rynopr,

2300 MKII = RP-82. It uses the earlier non-problematic Faroudja chip as well as the same MPEG decoder. The Shootout gives the details.
post #291 of 622
My Yamaha dealer told me two days ago that the s2500 is now shipping.
post #292 of 622
Well, S2500, has to beat 59avi, to get my money Q
post #293 of 622
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Originally posted by zoro
Well, S2500, has to beat 59avi, to get my money Q

It's a pity that there's so little information about this player out there. The 59avi, by all accounts, is still the player to beat in the <$1000 price range, at least.

Stick to that gun, zoro. That's a good one.
post #294 of 622
Zoro if we belive you you just ordered the samsung and 1000s other dvd players which is to long to list,I dont know how or why you would order every dvd player on earth because it sure seems you have.
post #295 of 622
The 2500 *will* have macroblocking, depending on the display. The Pio doesn't. I also bet the Pio will have a better analog audio output stage. But if you get the Yamaha, let us know.
post #296 of 622
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Originally posted by kevinca1
Zoro if we belive you you just ordered the samsung and 1000s other dvd players which is to long to list,I dont know how or why you would order every dvd player on earth because it sure seems you have.

He does demo just about everything. I hooked him up with a q50 a year or so ago(I think he kept it 2 or 3 days) and he lined me up with a 59avi. BTW, He had a couple Yammy X1's at one time too.

Call him the demo king
post #297 of 622
Thanks for your kind compliment mimason!! I am trying to step into gurus like yourself's shoes!! Learning!
post #298 of 622
Well, I finally got tired of waiting for this.

Bought the Pioneer 59AVI at HiFi House in Abington, PA. for a hundred bucks under the current list.

Sorry Yamaha, I love your products, but waiting more than six months after the originally scheduled release date is very poor business. Especially since the Pioneer unit now retails for a grand.
post #299 of 622
Nobody got this yet?
post #300 of 622
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