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post #211 of 8701
Ben - I'm trying to figure out what my best option is. I live in Mt. Olive, 40 miles west of nyc, so I don't think ota is an option. cablevision is my cable provider, so they are a distinct possibility for me. I'm just looking for some comparisions and comments regarding their service vs. E* or D*.
If there's a better thread to post on, let me know.
Thanks!
post #212 of 8701
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Originally Posted by goMO View Post

Ben - I'm trying to figure out what my best option is. I live in Mt. Olive, 40 miles west of nyc, so I don't think ota is an option. cablevision is my cable provider, so they are a distinct possibility for me. I'm just looking for some comparisions and comments regarding their service vs. E* or D*.
If there's a better thread to post on, let me know.
Thanks!

Ah, ok, I guess I wasn't clear on what you were asking.

I don't know about E* or D*, but I did have VOOM for about a year and the PQ on HD channels coming from Cablevision is just as good as it was on VOOM. Some claimed that the PQ from VOOM on HD channels was better than either E* or D*, but again, I can't vouch for that. I can vouch for the fact that there were others who also insisted that E* or D* was just as good, if not better, than VOOM...go figure

Anyhow, either way, the PQ from Cablevision is very good on HD; soon they will go to all digital and I know the SD digital channels look very good on my set.
post #213 of 8701
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Originally Posted by goMO View Post

Ben - I'm trying to figure out what my best option is. I live in Mt. Olive, 40 miles west of nyc, so I don't think ota is an option. cablevision is my cable provider, so they are a distinct possibility for me. I'm just looking for some comparisions and comments regarding their service vs. E* or D*.
If there's a better thread to post on, let me know.
Thanks!

If you need the YES network and the locals, E* is not for you. They aren't into sports programming like D*. D*'s PQ is not great. HD is average and SD in atrocious when viewing in a large screen. Also, D* is planning to change their receivers to support MPEG4 so buying a receiver now can be a bad move. Go with Cablevision for one year and let D* settle down a bit. Cablevision has a better HD offering than D* and the PQ is way better. Also, make sure to get Cablevision's HD DVR. It's not better than HD TIVO but at least you aren't shelling out $1k
post #214 of 8701
Allright!
Does anyone know of any new HD content coming?...
It's been a long time now, and I don't count Yes-HD, because that channel is only live during games...(personally I'm not really into sports, but I think that's a cheap tactic to "please" people)
How about some of those gagillion VoomHD channels?!
post #215 of 8701
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Originally Posted by PDPnNJ View Post

If you need the YES network and the locals, E* is not for you. They aren't into sports programming like D*. D*'s PQ is not great. HD is average and SD in atrocious when viewing in a large screen. Also, D* is planning to change their receivers to support MPEG4 so buying a receiver now can be a bad move. Go with Cablevision for one year and let D* settle down a bit. Cablevision has a better HD offering than D* and the PQ is way better. Also, make sure to get Cablevision's HD DVR. It's not better than HD TIVO but at least you aren't shelling out $1k

I agree 100% with everything PDP said. I left E* after 8 years for CV and I have the HD DVR -- I'm a very happy camper.
post #216 of 8701
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Originally Posted by gzabar View Post

Allright!
Does anyone know of any new HD content coming?...
It's been a long time now, and I don't count Yes-HD, because that channel is only live during games...(personally I'm not really into sports, but I think that's a cheap tactic to "please" people)
How about some of those gagillion VoomHD channels?!

With Cablevision, you won't know until the channel shows up in the guide. The only big announcement made was with YES-HD. They added ABC-HD not so long ago. Must have channels right now for Cablevision are WB-HD, UPN-HD, TNT-HD, INHD2, ESPN2-HD, DISCOVERY-HD, HDNET. I don't consider VOOM-HD channels more important than those already mentioned. Again, IMHO.
post #217 of 8701
thanks, guys! Looks like Cablevision gets the nod, price-wise and PQ-wise.

I'm getting close to getting a Samsung 56" DLP set. Just gotta sell some stuff first (the wife won't allow any "new" money to be used - beyotch!!!)
post #218 of 8701
I'm moving to Sunset Park and I believe both TWC and IO can service my area. Right now I'm using TWC (in Manhattan) and I like it fine. But I see that IO is a bit cheaper. Can someone who has used both compare the two?

I'm currently subscribing to TWC digital cable no premiums - no HD package. Also with Earthlink cable. Using SA 8000HD.
post #219 of 8701
I was a cablevision subscriber for over 10 years, I only switched to D* over the Whole yankees fiasco a few years ago.

I saw my first HD-TV a couple years ago and I was hooked immediately.
I shelled out nearly $1,000 for a HD-Tivo nearly a Year ago.

It was great at first but when they started Downrezzing it was very noticable on my Sony 50" RP LCD.

I recently got a call from Cablevision offering me the IO package along with the HD-DVR for a total of $59.99 a month for a Year. Since I could cancel at anytime I decided to give it a try to compare HD Picture Quality.

I immediately noticed the better PQ with CV, I have had the SA8300HD for a couple of weeks now and it by far gives a sharper HD picture than D* is currently offering.

Im running the HD-Tivo and SA8300HD on seperate componet inputs so I can Pause the same show on HBO-HD and closely compare the picture quality. CV is much much better.

The only downside with the SA8300HD is the software. The Tivo software is by far better, but Im willing to sacrifice that for a much better picture.

Plus thanks to this forum I now found out that I can add a external hard drive very easily. With the HD-Tivo you have to crack open the case Voiding the warrantee on the $1K purchase.

I will give it another month before I make my decision
D* is supposedly going to make a big announcement very soon about adding more HD channels in late July early August.
I hope that CV adds more HD channels very soon, it will make my choice a lot easier.
post #220 of 8701
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Originally Posted by bs77 View Post

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It was great at first but when they started Downrezzing it was very noticable on my Sony 50" RP LCD.

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I immediately noticed the better PQ with CV, I have had the SA8300HD for a couple of weeks now and it by far gives a sharper HD picture than D* is currently offering.

Im running the HD-Tivo and SA8300HD on seperate componet inputs so I can Pause the same show on HBO-HD and closely compare the picture quality. CV is much much better.

...

Plus thanks to this forum I now found out that I can add a external hard drive very easily. With the HD-Tivo you have to crack open the case Voiding the warrantee on the $1K purchase.

I will give it another month before I make my decision
D* is supposedly going to make a big announcement very soon about adding more HD channels in late July early August.
I hope that CV adds more HD channels very soon, it will make my choice a lot easier.

Sounds like a no-brainer to me, although I guess you are weighing quantity over quality. Personally, I couldn't tolerate more downrezzed HD...that seems like a present day oxymoron. I think regulators should start looking at that issue closely...providers shouldn't be allowed to get away with saying they are broadcasting HD simply because the signal going to your display is 720p/1080i!
post #221 of 8701
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Originally Posted by bs77 View Post

I was a cablevision subscriber for over 10 years, I only switched to D* over the Whole yankees fiasco a few years ago.

I saw my first HD-TV a couple years ago and I was hooked immediately.
I shelled out nearly $1,000 for a HD-Tivo nearly a Year ago.

It was great at first but when they started Downrezzing it was very noticable on my Sony 50" RP LCD.

I recently got a call from Cablevision offering me the IO package along with the HD-DVR for a total of $59.99 a month for a Year. Since I could cancel at anytime I decided to give it a try to compare HD Picture Quality.

I immediately noticed the better PQ with CV, I have had the SA8300HD for a couple of weeks now and it by far gives a sharper HD picture than D* is currently offering.

Im running the HD-Tivo and SA8300HD on seperate componet inputs so I can Pause the same show on HBO-HD and closely compare the picture quality. CV is much much better.

The only downside with the SA8300HD is the software. The Tivo software is by far better, but Im willing to sacrifice that for a much better picture.

Plus thanks to this forum I now found out that I can add a external hard drive very easily. With the HD-Tivo you have to crack open the case Voiding the warrantee on the $1K purchase.

I will give it another month before I make my decision
D* is supposedly going to make a big announcement very soon about adding more HD channels in late July early August.
I hope that CV adds more HD channels very soon, it will make my choice a lot easier.

Sounds like my story except I have not switched back to Cablevision yet. With my luck, a month after I switch, Directv will add a ton of HD at full res.
post #222 of 8701
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Originally Posted by dm145 View Post

Sounds like my story except I have not switched back to Cablevision yet. With my luck, a month after I switch, Directv will add a ton of HD at full res.

That is why I still currently have Directv. Im going to probably wait out the summer to see what D* is planning to do. If they do actually add "a ton" more HD channels and stop the downrezzing them, then I will cancel the Cable HD-DVR (no contract) and stick with D*. Give CV a call and give it a try like I am doing. If D* drops the ball (they have in the past) then you will be all set as I am now...
post #223 of 8701
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Originally Posted by lexa695 View Post

Anyone have the HD DVR/Tuner? I was wondering how the HDMI or DVI were working. Also, how does HD look. I have seen HD on Directv and it looked great. I had to switch from DTV due to trees blocking the HD birds. One more thing. How is the UI for the SD DVR. Is it like Tivo's?

I recently switched from D* to iO because trees prevented me from getting HD with D*. The iO receiver only requires one cable (not two like D*) to record up to two channels. iO also lets you record two channels while watching a third, D* also lets you record two channels but it forces you to watch one of the two channels you're watching. Regarding HD, iO has two boxes to choose from, one with HDMI-HDCP and another with DVI and Firewire. I have the HDMI version and it includes a SATA connection to add an addition hard drive. I haven't tested the SATA part yet. The DVR user interface is a little clumsy compared to D*/Tivo but the key thing is that it has all of the key functions I need including season pass. You can check out the Scientific Atlanta site for a manual if you have questions on a particular feature.
post #224 of 8701
good info, bs77. I'm in a similar boat. I switched from CV to D* when the YES fiasco hit, and I've been a happy D* customer since then.

but 1) I don't want to shell out $500 or so on a stb, and 2) what's the point of spending $3k on a great new hdtv when the signal is down-rezzed. no thanks....


so I'm waiting to see what D* can offer me when they finally get those new bird up in the air. hopefully lots of hd stations and higher rez.

I figure I'll wait til September, then we'll see where we are.
post #225 of 8701
just to clarify, the 8300hd dvr boxes from cablevision allow you to record two channels while watching a previously recorded program. it doesn't allow you to record two channels while viewing a third. nonetheless, having two recording while watching a previously recorded program is great.
post #226 of 8701
They don't have DiscoveryHD, INHD 2, and a bunch of others. Anyone hear that/if they are going to add any new channels?
post #227 of 8701
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Originally Posted by yankeesfan1 View Post

They don't have DiscoveryHD, INHD 2, and a bunch of others. Anyone hear that/if they are going to add any new channels?

Maybe the V* channels?
post #228 of 8701
There is already a thread on this topic:

What's the next HD channel for Comcast?
post #229 of 8701
They won't be adding them anytime soon. Atleast that's the feeling I get and what I've heard. CVC is more worried right now with VOD and they just updated and overhauled their previous VOD format. You're right, there are a ton of HD channels they could ney SHOULD add, but with the way CVC and Dolan works it probably won't be till August or September that we even whiff a hint of an additional HD channel to the lineup.
post #230 of 8701
Once UPN and WB become 'must carry' channels, I may see them soon in Cablevision's lineup. I don't see the holdup on INHD2, unless they are holding that channel back until they 'tier' HD.
post #231 of 8701
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Originally Posted by PDPnNJ View Post

Once UPN and WB become 'must carry' channels, I may see them soon in Cablevision's lineup. I don't see the holdup on INHD2, unless they are holding that channel back until they 'tier' HD.

Probably because of its "lack of content". Could see ESPN2HD in the fall as a must have but CVC and ESPN has always been very lame on agreements. Exactly one year ago ESPN was finally added, CVC still is yet to pick up ESPNU as well.
post #232 of 8701
Interesting thread, Soundmaster10.2 -- it was started last July!
Some questions remain with us eternally, I guess
post #233 of 8701
I just noticed that he was asking about Cablevision and not Comcast...ooooooooooops...
post #234 of 8701
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Originally Posted by Soundmaster10.2 View Post

I just noticed that he was asking about Cablevision and not Comcast...ooooooooooops...

Doesn't matter..... Your guess is as good as anybody's at this point.
post #235 of 8701
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Originally Posted by rkunces View Post

Could see ESPN2HD in the fall as a must have but CVC and ESPN has always been very lame on agreements. Exactly one year ago ESPN was finally added, CVC still is yet to pick up ESPNU as well.

ESPN usually commands high prices per channel carried hence the reason for many MSOs and DBSs not yet carrying the ESPN2HD channel.
post #236 of 8701
how does the 8300 compare to tivo? season passes, etc.
post #237 of 8701
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Originally Posted by PDPnNJ View Post

ESPN usually commands high prices per channel carried hence the reason for many MSOs and DBSs not yet carrying the ESPN2HD channel.

I know that but ESPN and CVC don't have such a great history with one another to begin with. Why I mentioned how long it took for them to finally make an agreement.
post #238 of 8701
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Originally Posted by goMO View Post

how does the 8300 compare to tivo? season passes, etc.

8300 doesn't have a season pass manager. For instance, you can't delete a single episode from a series like you do with TIVO. Also, managing conflicts (even with a dual tuner it happens ) can be cumbersome and you can't set priorities. With that said, I still rather pay for the lease 8300HD over a $1k HDTIVO which can be obsolete by the end of the year. I highly doubt DirecTV would improve their HD resolution. They haven't improved their SD resolution. I'm watching Cablevision's analog channels and they look better than DirecTV's digital channels. That's how bad DirecTV's PQ has become. Like others, I switched to DirecTV in 2002 over the YES fiasco. I swore never to come back to Cablevision but I have to admit, their current offering is a lot better.

Dual tuner with PIP is also a big plus with the 8300HD. A single coax cable coming into the box brings a greater WAF than HDTIVO.
post #239 of 8701
I dunno, but is there anyone CV has a "good history" with?

They seem to spend as much effort litigating with the competetion as they do trying to provide better service.

CV vs YES network
CV vs TimeWarner (MSG network programming agreement)
CV vs NY Jets football stadium
CV vs Verizon FiOS deployment.

Wonder who's next?
post #240 of 8701
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Originally Posted by Firehawk295 View Post

I dunno, but is there anyone CV has a "good history" with?

They seem to spend as much effort litigating with the competetion as they do trying to provide better service.

CV vs YES network
CV vs TimeWarner (MSG network programming agreement)
CV vs NY Jets football stadium
CV vs Verizon FiOS deployment.

Wonder who's next?

You forgot

CV vs VOOM

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