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post #3331 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Well, I spoke a little too soon. The Pro Bowl was just as bad as last week's Super Bowl.

There was definetly something wrong with the broadcast of the Pro Bowl. I was up in Buffalo watching in SD on Time Warner Cable, and it looks like the game was being shot on a CAMERA PHONE. Pixelation, blurry, just overall horrible. Video games looks better.
post #3332 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Well, I spoke a little too soon. The Pro Bowl was just as bad as last week's Super Bowl.

Regarding FOX broadcasting only at 720p, my box indicated 1080i. I don't think it's upconverted 720p (my DVR is set to upconversion 1) since progressive signals cannot be upconverted.

Don't understand why a network would provide such poor quality high definition, it's just not good business sense. Since the Super Bowl highlights on other stations were vivid as should be, could it be a problem with Cablevision's feed from FOX?

It is 720p. Either your box isn't set up to send out 720p signals to your TV, your TV can't accept 720p, or both. In any case, it is sending 720p through a 1080i signal (720i perhaps?).

You can change your settings by turning the unit off and pressing both Guide and Info until the setup screen appears. In that menu you can set up your cablebox to output only 1080i, only 720p, only 480p, etc, or any combinations of all the resolutions.

I know this because I turned my 720p off during the Superbowl hoping it would send out a 1080i signal instead. It sent out 1080i, but it looked exactly the same as the 720p signal it was sending previously.
post #3333 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Well, I spoke a little too soon. The Pro Bowl was just as bad as last week's Super Bowl.

The Pro Bowl was SD. It wasn't HD. It looked bad everywhere, not just on Cablevision.
post #3334 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Regarding FOX broadcasting only at 720p, my box indicated 1080i. I don't think it's upconverted 720p (my DVR is set to upconversion 1) since progressive signals cannot be upconverted.

Set your box to "pass through".....then you'll receive whatever the station is broadcasting.
post #3335 of 8655
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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Well, I spoke a little too soon. The Pro Bowl was just as bad as last week's Super Bowl.

Regarding FOX broadcasting only at 720p, my box indicated 1080i. I don't think it's upconverted 720p (my DVR is set to upconversion 1) since progressive signals cannot be upconverted.

First off the Pro Bowl was not produced in HD, it was SD widescreen. Second, if your cable box is set to upconvert then all HD signals will be displayed in the same format regardless of how it is being sent by the broadcaster. So you can have the box upconvert 720p to 1080i not that it will make much difference in PQ. The benefit is that you don't have the delay while the box switches formats as you change channels.
post #3336 of 8655
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Originally Posted by d0nkss View Post

I have the same problem on my Samsung and I would assume others also have it too. The line only shows up when I have my tv set to 1:1 pixel mapping, meaning it shows the true resolution on the screen, whatever that may be at the time. If I switch the mode on my tv to say 16:9 it will remove about 2 inches on all sizes of the picture and eliminate the "noise" on the edges. The 1:1 mode for me is great when I use my computer with the tv, to get true 1920x1080 resolution, but not for most programming. Check and see if your sony has a different mode that would solve this for you.

I also have a Samsung TV and I had a very similar issue on channel 726 except my thin line was at the top of the screen. This only occured on that one channel and with 1:1 pixel mapping on. As I understand it, the cause is slight overscan of the broadcast signal. I was able to correct it on my TV by "shifting" the image in the direction of the line ("up" in my case) with the TVs "POSITION" menu item which allows you to shift the TV image up, down, left, right one pixel at a time. I simple moved my image up a few pixels until the line disappeared. This did not have an adverse effect on any other channel. If your TV has a POSITION adjustment capability just move your image to the left a few pixels and it will go away.

Or as suggested, see if you have another mode other than 1:1 pixel mapping.
post #3337 of 8655
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Originally Posted by CJArciola, III View Post

Set your box to "pass through".....then you'll receive whatever the station is broadcasting.

Yes, but by doing that 480i standard definition signals will not be upconverted to 480p, which does provide smoother picture quality.

But, as many have said, it's a FOX problem and there is little we can do about it.
post #3338 of 8655
Anyone know what happened to HD on demand? Been coming up w/ 0 movies for weeks. Same w/ some of the SD VOD selections - no new releases, but there are new movies, what's up?
post #3339 of 8655
^ Cablevision sucks, that's what.

GIVE ME DISCOVERYHD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
post #3340 of 8655
We have had Discovery HD for nearly a year.
post #3341 of 8655
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Originally Posted by wtbrowN View Post

We have had Discovery HD for nearly a year.

Uh, what?
post #3342 of 8655
I thought we had Discovery HD Theatre. Aren't those different channels?
post #3343 of 8655
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Originally Posted by rodimus79 View Post

I thought we had Discovery HD Theatre. Aren't those different channels?

Yes. HD Theatre is a showcase of ONLY 100% HD shows with its own, independent lineup from the regular Discovery HD channel.
post #3344 of 8655
I've noticed that I get motion blurring whenever I watch one of the movie channels in HD (i.e Showtime , HBO, Starz). It doesn't seem to be the TV because all the other HD channels comes in pretty nice. I have a 52" Sony Bravia W-series. I am in the Bronx and have the 8300 HD cablebox from Cablevison. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.
post #3345 of 8655
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Originally Posted by yukichan View Post

I've noticed that I get motion blurring whenever I watch one of the movie channels in HD (i.e Showtime , HBO, Starz). It doesn't seem to be the TV because all the other HD channels comes in pretty nice. I have a 52" Sony Bravia W-series. I am in the Bronx and have the 8300 HD cablebox from Cablevison. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.


Hi,

It's not your set. I'm also in the Bronx and on HDBO HD and also notice some blurriness on fast moving scenes. This is with a DVR and CRT Sony KD34XBR960.
post #3346 of 8655
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Originally Posted by yukichan View Post

I've noticed that I get motion blurring whenever I watch one of the movie channels in HD (i.e Showtime , HBO, Starz). It doesn't seem to be the TV because all the other HD channels comes in pretty nice. I have a 52" Sony Bravia W-series. I am in the Bronx and have the 8300 HD cablebox from Cablevison. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? Thanks.

I also have blurring on HBO and Stars. It's the feed from Cablevision. Very disappointing.
post #3347 of 8655
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Originally Posted by munnz View Post

I also have blurring on HBO and Stars. It's the feed from Cablevision. Very disappointing.

Interesting....I have Cablevision in Westchester Cty NY....DLP set...no blurring to speak of....
post #3348 of 8655
No blurring here either, but overall PQ has deteriated over the last few months.

Sony KDS-60A2000
SA8300HD via HDMI
post #3349 of 8655
No blurring here, but lots of blocking. And I mean LOTS OF BLOCKING. They really do a bad job with their HD signal on Cablevision, even on the best stations...
post #3350 of 8655
I live in the Bronx and have been having problems on both SHO and HBO since Nov. I've posted about this before. Looks like we have to wait till the end of the summer when fios tv comes to the Bronx.
post #3351 of 8655
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Originally Posted by robnyc03 View Post

I live in the Bronx and have been having problems on both SHO and HBO since Nov. I've posted about this before. Looks like we have to wait till the end of the summer when fios tv comes to the Bronx.

Rob,

From what I've read in the AVS Verizon-New York forum it will be quite a while till FIOS is available in the Bronx or almost anywhere in the City (other than internet) due to a lag of City approvals. Right now, its only available in a very small section of Manhattan.

I was curious about what FIOS subscribers thought of picture quality compared to CV, Dish Etc. Obviously, there was just a small amount of posts (eight pages total) and most were inquiries. Those having FIOS seemed split between HD being the same or just a slightly bit better than CV, however, former satellite subscribers found its HD a marked improvement over the dish. All agreed it has a superior SD picture while being upset over not having MSGHD, FSNYHD and MSNBC (SD).

The cost is more and FIOS has it's problems just like CV with a complaint filed by State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo citing poor repair service in Long Island. Also learned that landlords must allow FIOS to re-wire apartment buildings in order for subscribers to be completely fiber-optic so, for many, the feed is similar to CV (fiber-optic connected to copper wiring).

It also seems Time Warner isn't any more popular with some subscribers as is CV in this forum.

Again, too small a sampling to get any definitive comparision but as far as HD goes, it's virtually the same.
post #3352 of 8655
bad PQ on HBO and SHO HD isn't limited to the bronx - we get it here too on long island
post #3353 of 8655
TNT AllStar shoot out looks blocky. Very disappointing
post #3354 of 8655
i have seen for myself hd quality on fios, cablevision, timewarner,comcast. as far as quality in this order from best to worse is fios, comcast, time warner, cablevision.

cablevision and timewarner both overcompress by putting 3 hd channels on 1 frequency. fios does not compress any channels.

to be fair to timewarner, the forum complains mainly come from a couple of frustrated users that complain queens get more hd channels than manhattan.

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Originally Posted by Joseph Dubin View Post

Rob,

From what I've read in the AVS Verizon-New York forum it will be quite a while till FIOS is available in the Bronx or almost anywhere in the City (other than internet) due to a lag of City approvals. Right now, its only available in a very small section of Manhattan.

I was curious about what FIOS subscribers thought of picture quality compared to CV, Dish Etc. Obviously, there was just a small amount of posts (eight pages total) and most were inquiries. Those having FIOS seemed split between HD being the same or just a slightly bit better than CV, however, former satellite subscribers found its HD a marked improvement over the dish. All agreed it has a superior SD picture while being upset over not having MSGHD, FSNYHD and MSNBC (SD).

The cost is more and FIOS has it's problems just like CV with a complaint filed by State Attorney General Andrew Cuomo citing poor repair service in Long Island. Also learned that landlords must allow FIOS to re-wire apartment buildings in order for subscribers to be completely fiber-optic so, for many, the feed is similar to CV (fiber-optic connected to copper wiring).

It also seems Time Warner isn't any more popular with some subscribers as is CV in this forum.

Again, too small a sampling to get any definitive comparision but as far as HD goes, it's virtually the same.
post #3355 of 8655
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Originally Posted by otanyc11223 View Post

i have seen for myself hd quality on fios, cablevision, timewarner,comcast. as far as quality in this order from best to worse is fios, comcast, time warner, cablevision.

How does cablevision compare to DTV?
post #3356 of 8655
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Originally Posted by otanyc11223 View Post

i have seen for myself hd quality on fios, cablevision, timewarner,comcast. as far as quality in this order from best to worse is fios, comcast, time warner, cablevision.

cablevision and timewarner both overcompress by putting 3 hd channels on 1 frequency. fios does not compress any channels.

to be fair to timewarner, the forum complains mainly come from a couple of frustrated users that complain queens get more hd channels than manhattan.

Was it a big or small differential between the four?

Does the difference pertain more to motion blur and digital artifacts (i.e., blocks) than vividness, color, etc?. And if so, does it get more apparant with the larger screen size?
post #3357 of 8655
I cant stop watching Giada De Laurentiis whenever I see her on food network hd.
post #3358 of 8655
I'm not sure if I have enough info for any of you guys to answer this, but;
I will be trading in my cable box to cablevision for a HD box, will I be able to hook it up to my receiver with an optical audio cable?
post #3359 of 8655
no, coaxial only to receiver..If you only have optical free, there are converters sold..
post #3360 of 8655
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Originally Posted by taxman48 View Post

no, coaxial only to receiver..If you only have optical free, there are converters sold..

ok, thanks
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