Originally Posted by nyjklein
Well this is somehat related to the CableCard and Cablevisions conversion to digital transmission. Current TVGOS implemenations in TVs and DVRs can only decode TVGOS sent on analog transmissions. In the NY area, WNET 13 carries the TVGOS information on their analog signal. Cablevision still sends WNET as an analog channel but also sends a digital version of WNET 13. The digital version can't technically carry TVGOS, Cablevsion is not purposely stripping it. So, if you split you cable and hook it to a TV or DVR that has both analog and digital inputs, you'll actually be able to receive both the analog and digital WNET. The analog will be on channel 13 and if you have TV Guide everything is hunky-dory.
I'm sorry. This is demonstrably incorrect. The analog channel 13 on the Cablevision system, with or without a cable card in the device, does not transmit the guide data.
The trouble begins when you insert a CableCard or cable box in the mix. The cable box will only receive the digital version of WNET so if you try to get the TVGOS info from one of its outputs your out of luck.
This is also incorrect. With my Sony DVR, I can tune both the analog version of 13 and the digital version of 13. The analog 13 does not carry the TVGOS data once it has gone through the Cablevision system.
Now if your device has an analog input, you can split the cable coax BEFORE the cable box and attach one side to the cable box and one to the analog input on your device. You should now still be able to get the TVGOS info.
Sorry. This does not work. This is how I have been set up since day 1 even before I got the Cablecard installed.
A CableCard makes things even trickier. Just like the Cable box, the CableCard prefers the digital version of WNET and doesn't "tell" the device that an analog version is still available. So now depending on your devices implementation, if you keep the cable split on your analog and digital connections, you may still get the TVGOS or you may not. From what I've gathered here, the new Sony DVRs still work as do the Toshiba TVs with the latest firmware. Sharp TVs (including mine) don't work.
You seem to be of the misapprehension that there are seperate digital and analog inputs. On my Sony DVR, there is a cable and an antenna input. The cable input can be tuned to analog channels in their customary frequencies and unencryoted QAM channels. With a Cablecard installed, some channels are remapped and encrypted chyanells can be tuned as well (in your service plan includes them). The analog channels remain where they were and are tuned as usual. The seperate antenna input can also tune analog (NTSC) and HD (ATSC) signals.
The real solution is for Cablevision to inject the TVGOS information themselves onto one of the remaining analog only stations.
I have no doubt that the solution requires some action on the part of Cablevision.
An alternate solution for some people is to use an antenna input as well as a cable input if that is an option.