Originally Posted by cool8man
I see so then switching back to component cables should solve the problem since I do not believe the analog cables are capable of transmitting a signal back to the box. It seems like HDMI/DVI are not a good choice for consumers and were implemented for the sole purpose to initiate all these major annoyances and restrictions. I wish I could get my money back on the cables. I was interested in getting the highest quality picture, but not at the expense of being able to record television shows as I have done my entire life. As a matter of fact my family would cancel the entire HDTV subscription with Cablevision before I would ever give up the freedom of being able to record tv how and when we want to.
I am still confused as to why not receiving a proper "handshake" from the HDTV set would result in the S-video output being blocked, but not the DVI output? I have a standard definition ReplayTV/Tivo like most people and the highest quality recording I can make is through the S-video connection. These standard def recordings are far from perfect digital HD resolution recordings and don't seem like they would be the priority for HDCP.
The same problem most likely will occur with component cable. As mentioned earlier, I've seen similar messages with component cables as well (sometimes the component comes on for a second replaced by the one for HDMI/DVI).
I completely agree this problem could be resolved if the industries involved put the consumer on at least an equal par with profit. Until then, the box will only output to the TIVO (like my other non-HD set) while the HD set is on allowing the handshake to be completed; turning the HD set off stops the "handshake". And I also agree it is unfair this same industry worked it out that one could still make timer recordings through an HD box but not through a standard definition TIVO.
Unless TIVO makes a HD unit my guess is the only way to make timed recordings with TIVO is by disconnecting the HDMI/DVI or component cable attached to a cable box, hence downgrading it to a standard definition box even on the HD channels.
I certainly can understand the anguish of setting up a system with TIVO only to find it rendered useless when upgrading to HD. I wish I could be of more help or provide more suggestions - perhaps TIVO or Cablevision can offer a solution other than having to subscribe to DVR.