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post #391 of 4081
I'm truly sad that you've decided not to take a stab at tweaking the GWIV, but I totally understand where you're coming from. Hopefully the community here can figure out a way to get our GWIVs looking somewhere as good as your GWII does. If you ever change your mind, I know myself and many, many current and future GWIV would appreciate it greatly.
post #392 of 4081
KDF42WE655 HELP, please
I have a problem surfing up and down with the channel button--on the remote as well as on the side of the tv. I can directly dial a channel by punching in its number but cannot step up or down once I directly dialed a channel.
My set-up: running cable straight into my apt., then splitting signal with one side going straight into tv (i.e. analog signal) and the other side going to the digital Motorola cable box which provides me my hi-def signal (plus any other available station in digital format). Of course, the component connection coming from the cablebox and going into video 5 can only be dialed with the cable remote (and, by the way, surfing with the cable remote in video 5 (i.e. digital signal) is possible. But on the other, analog side, I should be able to surf up and down with the Sony remote or tv's side channel button, particularly since I can directly dial any channel with the remote.
What's my problem? Did I forget something in initial set-up? Do I have to punch a button on the remote--however, don't forget, I cannot surf with the tv's side channel button either.

Help would be appreciated.
Wolfi
post #393 of 4081
I checked my service menu (55WF655) and it has the same categories as TH3_FRB listed in the other thread. I guess the best place to start will be to get the service manual and try to find some corelation between the old menus and new ones.
post #394 of 4081
It looks like Sony may have dropped the 3D Comb filter in these sets. Note the 2D Comb filter category the schematics and block diagrams also show a 2D Comb filter. I also find no mention of 3D comb filter in the user manual. The specs mention it on Sony Style, but that could be a mistake.
post #395 of 4081
Have you guys tried the Jump button. This set seems to have layers of service menus that are accessed with Jump.
post #396 of 4081
Someone stated earlier there is a signal strength meter for the GWIV, possibly for the ANT. Could anyone tell me how to get to this setting as I need to tune my ANT and watching channels fade in and out isn't fun.

Thanks,
Vanelin
post #397 of 4081
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Originally posted by vanelin
Someone stated earlier there is a signal strength meter for the GWIV, possibly for the ANT. Could anyone tell me how to get to this setting as I need to tune my ANT and watching channels fade in and out isn't fun.

Thanks,
Vanelin

You can only check the signal strenght if you can tune into a digital channel...that would be the only time the diagnostic button will be available. I believe the diagnostic button is located at the menu selection.
post #398 of 4081
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Originally posted by wolfi
KDF42WE655 HELP, please
I have a problem surfing up and down with the channel button--on the remote as well as on the side of the tv. I can directly dial a channel by punching in its number but cannot step up or down once I directly dialed a channel.
My set-up: running cable straight into my apt., then splitting signal with one side going straight into tv (i.e. analog signal) and the other side going to the digital Motorola cable box which provides me my hi-def signal (plus any other available station in digital format). Of course, the component connection coming from the cablebox and going into video 5 can only be dialed with the cable remote (and, by the way, surfing with the cable remote in video 5 (i.e. digital signal) is possible. But on the other, analog side, I should be able to surf up and down with the Sony remote or tv's side channel button, particularly since I can directly dial any channel with the remote.
What's my problem? Did I forget something in initial set-up? Do I have to punch a button on the remote--however, don't forget, I cannot surf with the tv's side channel button either.

Help would be appreciated.
Wolfi

Check your "channel fix" to see if it's on. Also, do you have the cable going to the cable input or UHF input. I would suggest connecting it to the cable input and do the channel search again. I am receiving HD content without a cable box.
post #399 of 4081
Quote:


Originally posted by wolfi
KDF42WE655 HELP, please
I have a problem surfing up and down with the channel button--on the remote as well as on the side of the tv. I can directly dial a channel by punching in its number but cannot step up or down once I directly dialed a channel.
My set-up: running cable straight into my apt., then splitting signal with one side going straight into tv (i.e. analog signal) and the other side going to the digital Motorola cable box which provides me my hi-def signal (plus any other available station in digital format). Of course, the component connection coming from the cablebox and going into video 5 can only be dialed with the cable remote (and, by the way, surfing with the cable remote in video 5 (i.e. digital signal) is possible. But on the other, analog side, I should be able to surf up and down with the Sony remote or tv's side channel button, particularly since I can directly dial any channel with the remote.
What's my problem? Did I forget something in initial set-up? Do I have to punch a button on the remote--however, don't forget, I cannot surf with the tv's side channel button either.

Help would be appreciated.
Wolfi

Wolfi,

That's the same exact problem I've been talking about all week! Check out my earlier posts. I'm on my second GWIV right now (returned the first) and I'm still seeing the problem!

Just to let you know, I've been in daily contact with the engineers at the Sony plant (in PA) where these sets are produced. As of yet, they still haven't been able to repeat the problem, but they believe me when I say that there IS a problem. The setup is just way too simple...cable in to the Cable input, Auto Program the TV, watch TV and channel surf, shut off TV and all memory of programmed channels is lost except for the last channel before power down (but you can manually key in a channel number).

The engineers are working on this and hope to have an answer for me soon. We are narrowing the problem part down. So far, I think we can cross the channel memory EE off as the culprit because of a test that they had me run last night. Right now, I'm leaning towards the tuner.

Wolfi, PLEASE PM YOUR CONTACT INFORMATION TO ME IMMEDIATELY and I will pass it along to the guys at Sony. I'm sure that they will want to speak with you. They watching the roll out of these sets VERY closely and any hiccups right now seem to get them rolling into action. I will say this, so far they have been really responsive which is the only thing right now that is keeping me from returning the TV.
post #400 of 4081
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Originally posted by umr
Have you guys tried the Jump button. This set seems to have layers of service menus that are accessed with Jump.

Nope, I sure didn't try that out. I just got to work, so it'll be a solid 8-9 hours before I can try this out, but I will as soon as I get home.
post #401 of 4081
Thread Starter 
Very interesting...I'll try it tonight and report back.

Quote:


Originally posted by umr
Have you guys tried the Jump button. This set seems to have layers of service menus that are accessed with Jump.
post #402 of 4081
Quote:


Originally posted by umr
It looks like Sony may have dropped the 3D Comb filter in these sets. Note the 2D Comb filter category the schematics and block diagrams also show a 2D Comb filter. I also find no mention of 3D comb filter in the user manual. The specs mention it on Sony Style, but that could be a mistake.

Can you explain to us the difference and why this would be important (or point us to a post that does)?
post #403 of 4081
These links do a decent job explaining the benefit and detriments of 3D Comb filtering.

http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/vidcomb.htm#CombAdapt2

http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/vidcomb.htm#CombAdapt3
post #404 of 4081
Different question now.

I have a Sony RDR-GX7 which plays in 480p, then is scaled to 788p by the TV. Will I notice an improvement getting Sony's new 975v HDMI DVD player (which is on Sony.com now), which seems to be native 720p with a 1080i scaler? If I did get one, would it be better to connect through the HDMI or continue with component?
post #405 of 4081
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Originally posted by umr
Have you guys tried the Jump button. This set seems to have layers of service menus that are accessed with Jump.

Once again, UMR is right on the money. I used the jump button to change levels in the service menu, and now the categories and items that were used in the GWIII tweaks are there. So, the million dollar question is do I apply the tweaks done to the GWIII to my GWIV?
post #406 of 4081
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Originally posted by Professor Gascan
Once again, UMR is right on the money. I used the jump button to change levels in the service menu, and now the categories and items that were used in the GWIII tweaks are there. So, the million dollar question is do I apply the tweaks done to the GWIII to my GWIV?

I would see no reason not to try. The risk is yours of course. It will be interesting to see if they have changed many of the defaults and if the correct values will be the same. You should use test patterns for all inputs if you are going to attempt this.
post #407 of 4081
Oh yee of little faith. I told you it looked similar.
post #408 of 4081
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Originally posted by umr
Oh yee of little faith. I told you it looked similar.

Hehe. I was excited the whole day to try it out. Two questions: 1. Is there anyway to reset the entire television to factory default if I do the changes? 2. Do you think they're neccessary judging from the picture you posted earlier?

I missed your post up above. I'm new to tweaking, so by test patterns you mean something like Avia would provide?
post #409 of 4081
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Originally posted by Professor Gascan
Once again, UMR is right on the money. I used the jump button to change levels in the service menu, and now the categories and items that were used in the GWIII tweaks are there. So, the million dollar question is do I apply the tweaks done to the GWIII to my GWIV?

And don't forget to write down ALL your settings before you do anything else. It's the only way to recover if you accidentally modify the wrong parameter, or fat-finger the buttons on the remote.
post #410 of 4081
umr/anyone else

Do you have an opinion/assessment of what the major differences are between the XS and the XBR?
post #411 of 4081
Just hooked up my New SONY 60XS....wow it looks good...

still checking it out more though
post #412 of 4081
Papadux:

Where did you get it from?
post #413 of 4081
Best Buy
post #414 of 4081
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Originally posted by mmulligan
Ok, here are my impressions of my 42GWIV. As to whether the picture is better than a III I can not comment other than to say that HD is great on IV and SD and analog are better than on my sony 27". The advanagtes of the IV that I have found thus far it is slimmer 15 in and the built in tuner has been a plus for me. I live in Annapolis Md, and comcast designates this as a Baltimore area and only puts local Baltimore Hd channels on its lineup. But I was surprised when I hooked my cable line directly into GWIV and had it do the automatic channel search to discover all the washington DC local Hd channels available, located at 122.1 and up. These channels did not appear using my STB from comcast. I am using cable in port for most analog, SD, and Hd viewing. The stb box is hooked up via component to Video 5 and is used to view encrypted channels and on demand function from comcast. Video 6 is connected to my DVD via component and plays DVD exceptionally. I have the GWIV sitting on a bush stand with a swivel base in my narrow room in my condo, sit 8 ft from screen and have not experienced any screen door effects or bad pixels. On my limited viewing thus far I have been happy with black details and have not noticied any blurring doing sporting events. I also enjoy the twin view feature which has allowed me to watch college football and yankee-redsox game at the same time, but digital picture can only be played to the left panel.

the gw111 which i have is 14 inches deep--the IV is 15 and is 20 lbs heavier---the IV has cable card capability--but be aware its only ONE way--IN not out-that means pay per view and on demand is out-you cant communicate with them as you can with the box-the IV has silver border--not black--it makesthe picture look smaller over the GW111-to ME the IV is a step DOWN from the 111--NOT up--othwerwise its the same tv--IMHO
post #415 of 4081
Quote:
Just hooked up my New SONY 60XS....wow it looks good...

You won't be posting any pictures by chance??????
post #416 of 4081
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Originally posted by Professor Gascan
I missed your post up above. I'm new to tweaking, so by test patterns you mean something like Avia would provide?

I think that is what he means and if I read his tweaks right, you might even be able to use the THX optimizer patterns as well.
post #417 of 4081
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Just hooked up my New SONY 60XS....wow it looks good...

Congratulations, I think you are the first person in the forum to get one.

I'm still waiting for mine...
post #418 of 4081
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Originally posted by studranger
the gw111 which i have is 14 inches deep--the IV is 15 and is 20 lbs heavier---the IV has cable card capability--but be aware its only ONE way--IN not out-that means pay per view and on demand is out-you cant communicate with them as you can with the box-the IV has silver border--not black--it makesthe picture look smaller over the GW111-to ME the IV is a step DOWN from the 111--NOT up--othwerwise its the same tv--IMHO

I agree with you that the silver border is unattractive. However don't dismiss the cablecard so quickly. It is 1/4 the cost or less of an STB, plus some have said that the Sony built in tuner is better than what you will find in a STB, so your PQ could be better. Even in the worst case you don't lose anything with a built in QAM tuner. It adds to the value of the set because it gives you new options.

You are also getting an off the air tuner, so you can set up an antenna and pull in free broadcast HD. I know taht sounds kind of hokey in this day and age, but some broadcasters are putting out some pretty high quality stuff.
post #419 of 4081
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Originally posted by papaduxx
Best Buy

Did you manage to find out when the 55 will be available?
post #420 of 4081
Thread Starter 
I definitely plan to give it a shot this weekend!

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Originally posted by Professor Gascan
Once again, UMR is right on the money. I used the jump button to change levels in the service menu, and now the categories and items that were used in the GWIII tweaks are there. So, the million dollar question is do I apply the tweaks done to the GWIII to my GWIV?
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