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post #5761 of 7479
You just answered my questions, thanks.
post #5762 of 7479
I just wanted to make sure that the European releases were also 96/24...not just simply 5.1 DVD. I'd rather have the European discs if they are indeed Redbook CD and DVD-A w/ video instead of DualDisc (bad word). It cooks my nuts (think Xmas song) that a disc won't play in the 3910. So what if I can flip it over...I shouldn't have to...DualDisc just blows.

J.
post #5763 of 7479
I ordered 3 of them from Amazon.uk, I'll let you know.
post #5764 of 7479
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Originally Posted by JasonColeman View Post

I just wanted to make sure that the European releases were also 96/24...not just simply 5.1 DVD. I'd rather have the European discs if they are indeed Redbook CD and DVD-A w/ video instead of DualDisc (bad word). It cooks my nuts (think Xmas song) that a disc won't play in the 3910. So what if I can flip it over...I shouldn't have to...DualDisc just blows.

J.


Yes, all the 'double-disc' TH sets are true DVD-A. Indentical to the US releases except two discs instead of one. I got mine all from amazon.uk
post #5765 of 7479
Excellent... I'm all over it!

J.
post #5766 of 7479
I'm trying out a 3910 right now.

This thread is so long, i would need a wrap up of important things to know.

I'm connected thru HDMI 720p to a CRT FP and using Mch sacd thru analog out. It is a 2004 production unit.

1- Do i need a firmware upgrade of any kind ? IF yes whre can i find it ?
2- What about the enhanced black feature ?

Seems to have some stange navigation issue in setup as i cannot get into Mch speaker setup.

Thx
post #5767 of 7479
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Originally Posted by audiman View Post

I'm trying out a 3910 right now.

This thread is so long, i would need a wrap up of important things to know.

I'm connected thru HDMI 720p to a CRT FP and using Mch sacd thru analog out. It is a 2004 production unit.

1- Do i need a firmware upgrade of any kind ? IF yes whre can i find it ?
2- What about the enhanced black feature ?

Seems to have some stange navigation issue in setup as i cannot get into Mch speaker setup.

Thx

Give one of these places a call regarding the firmware they may be able to help you.

HECOTRON INTERNATIONAL INC.
1370 PONCETMONTREAL,QCH3M 3A4
514-736-1313


FILLION ELECTRONIQUE
5690 SHERBROOKE ESTMONTREAL,QCH1N 1A1
514-254-6041

I'm assuming you purchased the 3910 in CA. Unfortunately Denon Canada does not have any firmware info on the website.

As for the enhanced black most people don't use it but you can always flip back and forth to see if you like it better.
post #5768 of 7479
I took the unit at Fillion, so i'm ok.

Anyway, it's going back. Compared to an HTPC, PQ sucks. I can see large area of MB in the black scenes.

Sound wise, it's ok, but not for the price.
post #5769 of 7479
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Originally Posted by audiman View Post

I took the unit at Fillion, so i'm ok.

Anyway, it's going back. Compared to an HTPC, PQ sucks. I can see large area of MB in the black scenes.

Sound wise, it's ok, but not for the price.

It definitely is not a unit for everyone. In home testing is the only way to find out.
post #5770 of 7479
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

I have to admit that I have not tried the CD side of these dual-discs in the 3910 but why would one want to? The hi-rez mch DVD-A side is excellent. Or are you just curious?

Kal

As I realized this weekend, the other reason I'd much rather have the separate Redbook CD and DVD-A combo (European version) of the Talking Heads discs instead of the DualDisc is because the bonus tracks (at least on Remain in Light) are only on the "CD" side of the DualDisc and not accessible with the 3910.

J.
post #5771 of 7479
I bought the Brick dualdisc set so I didn't have a choice back then. But one way around it is to rip the "cd" side to your harddrive, then burn a real cd. Some may even say it sounds better with a nice EAC rip (discussion for a different thread entirely).
post #5772 of 7479
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Originally Posted by Deter View Post

I realized this has probably asked a million times but after hours of searching this thread I can't find the exact answer I'm looking for. I am using my 3910 with a 4306 receiver and a hitachi plasma. My question is: if i run HDMI from the 3910 to the 4306 and then HDMI from the 4306 to the plasma should I also use the denon link cable form my sound or just use the HDMI for sound and video? If I hook up both will the 3910 automatically "sense" the disc and send the audio out through the appropriate path? ie HDMI for DVD and denon link for DVD-A/SACD? Thanks in advance for helping me understand this.

I have the same setup and use the Denon Link cable for sound. You have to select DLIII in your setup for it to work. The sound is really incredible. I have both hooked up, and the system uses Denon Link all of the time for sound.

Diverace
post #5773 of 7479
I have searched, and maybe I overlooked it, but I have not been able to find any posts where someone has indicated whether they have successfully connected a 3910 via Firewire to a Pioneer receiver (mine is a 49TXi). I am interested if anyone has successfully done this, and if they have what issues (if any) have you encountered.

I am thinking of purchasing a B-Stock 3910 from Dakmart (who seems to be a Denon authorized reseller).

Any information would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thank you
Bryan
post #5774 of 7479
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Originally Posted by bgarcia View Post

I have searched, and maybe I overlooked it, but I have not been able to find any posts where someone has indicated whether they have successfully connected a 3910 via Firewire to a Pioneer receiver (mine is a 49TXi). I am interested if anyone has successfully done this, and if they have what issues (if any) have you encountered.

I am thinking of purchasing a B-Stock 3910 from Dakmart (who seems to be a Denon authorized reseller).

Any information would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thank you
Bryan

I don't think I've read of any issues using a Firewire connection.... I don't think you'll have any problems.... although I don't use it myself.

Here is a post from a few pages back.

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Originally Posted by Hunter View Post

"Am I going to run into any "proprietary" connection issues with the 3910's IEEE audio connection? I ended up going with a Pioneer receiver and plan on using it's IEEE connection with the 3910 for the multi-channel stuff."

No.
I have a 3910 set up with a 59TXi. Ran iLink (IEEE/Firewire) from the Denon to the Pioneer without any special menu setup with NO problem.

As a matter of fact - the quality of the audio was markedly better than standard digital, through either coaxial or optical cables (high-quality cables used). In virtually every way the quality is better than any other digital reproduction I've heard since 1982, including multi-thousand dollar systems. There are some serious technical reasons why iLink should be better and they turn out to be valid and audible.
post #5775 of 7479
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Originally Posted by bgarcia View Post

I am thinking of purchasing a B-Stock 3910 from Dakmart (who seems to be a Denon authorized reseller).

Any information would be GREATLY appreciated.

They are. I bought a B-Stock 2910 from them. Buy with confidence.
post #5776 of 7479
Hi all...
I have been debating many upgrades to my system.

The 3910 is one (as I have the Denon 3805 receiver).

I was wondering if anyone who has this DVD player also has the NEC 50xr5?
If so, how is the combo?
Any MB issues? What are you feeding it... 480P, or an upconverted signal?

Thanks in advance!

shane
post #5777 of 7479
Shane, I also have the 3805 and was waiting for the new generation denon dvd players, which I hope will include the denon-link on lower-end models as well (an hypothetical 2920, let's say). Do you think it's worth it to buy a 3910 now? When is this going to be replaced any way, these players have been around for two years, that's an eternity
post #5778 of 7479
Actually badsatan...
I'm totally with you on this. I even asked a salesman today whether or not he knew of something new for Denon in this vein. He knew of nothing and checked his computer, but it showed nothing.

You are right. This model has been out for a long time, and is in need of a replacement. I could wait... I guess. I've waited a long time already. I originally bought the 3805 in order to connect to a D-link DVD player like the 3910. But I'm jonesin' for a new dvd player and it's a choice between this or the Pioneer elite DV-79avi.

Time will tell, I guess.

Still curious about the MB issue with the NEC panel, though.

shane



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Originally Posted by badsatan View Post

Shane, I also have the 3805 and was waiting for the new generation denon dvd players, which I hope will include the denon-link on lower-end models as well (an hypothetical 2920, let's say). Do you think it's worth it to buy a 3910 now? When is this going to be replaced any way, these players have been around for two years, that's an eternity
post #5779 of 7479
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Originally Posted by shane55 View Post

Actually badsatan...
I'm totally with you on this. I even asked a salesman today whether or not he knew of something new for Denon in this vein. He knew of nothing and checked his computer, but it showed nothing.

You are right. This model has been out for a long time, and is in need of a replacement. I could wait... I guess. I've waited a long time already. I originally bought the 3805 in order to connect to a D-link DVD player like the 3910. But I'm jonesin' for a new dvd player and it's a choice between this or the Pioneer elite DV-79avi.

Time will tell, I guess.

There was talk on another thread - 2910 maybe - maybe even this thread - that Denon will not be intoducing ANY new models due to BD/HD-DVD being just around the corner. The poster said he read it somewhere, but never followed through when challanged - by me - to provide a link. Nonetheless, it's not so far fetched for them to at least freeze further intos until they see how the next gen is going to do. Another point I'd like to make is this: Denon's line is "complete" right now and, perhaps, needs no updating. Just what could be improved on either the 2910 or 3910 and not increase the price? And the 5910 is certainly all it could be.
post #5780 of 7479
There will be at least one newer player from Denon at CEDIA but, afaik, nothing announced for HD-DVD or BD yet.

Kal
post #5781 of 7479
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

There will be at least one newer player from Denon at CEDIA but, afaik, nothing announced for HD-DVD or BD yet.

Kal

Any thoughts on where it will fit into their line - top, bottom, somewhere in between?
post #5782 of 7479
I recall reading somewhere on this forum where Kris Deering said that the last top of the line SD DVD player Denon will make is the current 5910. That certainly leaves open the possibility for a less expensive model to be brought out.
post #5783 of 7479
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

I recall reading somewhere on this forum where Kris Deering said that the last top of the line SD DVD player Denon will make is the current 5910. That certainly leaves open the possibility for a less expensive model to be brought out.

Yeah, that's what I was remembering; somebody posted that Kris "said", but no one ever linked to where Kris said it. And Kris never popped in to straighten us out on the matter.
post #5784 of 7479
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Yeah, that's what I was remembering; somebody posted that Kris "said", but no one ever linked to where Kris said it. And Kris never popped in to straighten us out on the matter.

The exact quote is in the link below, he says "supposedly", and being that he has worked closely with Denon on their DVD products I would tend to believe his input.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...14#post7048914
Denon 5910 Owners Thread - AVS Forum
post #5785 of 7479
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Originally Posted by keenan View Post

The exact quote is in the link below, he says "supposedly", and being that he has worked closely with Denon on their DVD products I would tend to believe his input.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...14#post7048914
Denon 5910 Owners Thread - AVS Forum

Thanks, keenan, for firming that up.
post #5786 of 7479
Here's the link to DenonUK with the new 5910A(1080p over HDMI)

Denon A1XVA(1080p over HDMI)



1080p output via HDMI. World's First Consumer Product to be Powered with the Silcon Optix Realta chip with Hollywood Quality Video (HQV) processing by Teranex World's First DVD player to feature 10-Bit DVDO Professional Scaler Exclusive 10-bit DPIC (DENON Pixel Image Correction)
THX Ultra-Certification
DVI-D and HDMI Outputs with selectable 480p/720p/1080i/1080p output and simultaneous output (at same scale rate)
2 sets of Component Video outputs, 1 with Gold BNC connections - continuous 480p/576p output even with DVI or HDMI outputs activated
Built-in Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD-Audio and SACD decoders with 5.1 analog outputs
Highest quality 24-bit, 192-kHz Audio DACs on all channels
Dedicated and discrete PCM-1792 DAC's in differential mode for 2 channel outputs
HDCD decoding
Advanced AL24 Processing for 2 channel playback, and AL24 Processing Plus for 5.1 channel playback
DENON LINK 3rd edition with SACD playback.
Two IEEE-1394 Outputs
Pure Direct Modes
3 box, 5 block internal layout to isolate analog, digital and video circuits.
post #5787 of 7479
But that is just an upgrade to the current 5910 (or A1XV in Europe). The upgrade is available separately and costs about 300. I don't know if it's only firmware or if there are some parts to be replaced also.
post #5788 of 7479
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Originally Posted by Kevin. W View Post

Here's the link to DenonUK with the new 5910A(1080p over HDMI)

Denon A1XVA(1080p over HDMI)

post #5789 of 7479
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Originally Posted by badsatan View Post

But that is just an upgrade to the current 5910 (or A1XV in Europe). The upgrade is available separately and costs about 300. I don't know if it's only firmware or if there are some parts to be replaced also.

Yes, I think it's called a 5910ci here in the US. It a 5910 with 1080p output added. Currently sold 5910s should already have the upgrade.
post #5790 of 7479
Keenan-

Any word on those TalkingHeads discs yet?

J.
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