Denon 3910 Owners Thread - Page 197

Those are only on the CD disc.

I recently tried out a brand new 3910...did it likely have the E firmware?

Build date?

Not sure what it was, but it did pass BTB. It was from Crutchfield.....so I'm guessing it was recent?

If the E firmware is region free, then more than likely it did not have it.

Thanks. I didn't see that. I'll check with Denon Monday. I hope they didn't set a time limit on the free upgrade.

Anyone had a chance to verify the DTS CD indicator problem?

Covered by an extended warranty, so I'm afraid I don't have a repair cost for you.

Speaking of extended warranties . . . never used to see value in these things, but recently they have paid off big for me. It seems that build quality isn't what it used to be.

On my 5900, the part was $113.50 and the labor was $75.00 to replace the laser tracking assembly.

Are the track listings at Amazon.uk off? Here's the link. I noticed that reviewers referenced the 4 outtake tracks, but the track listings don't reflect them. Would you mind posting what you've actually got?

Thanks!

J.

The Amazon listing is correct except it's missing the 4 extra tracks on the CD disc. Below is the back cover of the case, the listings are correct for each disc, note that it list Bonus Tracks as "(CD Only)". Both CD and DVD-A have the original 8 tracks with only the CD having the 4 bonus tracks, and everything listed corresponds exactly with what is on the actual discs.

Sorry for the long post, but this is driving my crazy --

Here is my setup - Denon 3910 video signal output via DVI to a Pioneer PRO1410 (61" Plasma) HDMI input via Gefen HDTV Cat5 repeaters. Setup has worked flawlessly for nine months until two weeks ago.

Here is my problem - Watched a movie with kids and the system functioned perfectly as normal, shut down the system, attempted to watch a second movie forty-five minutes later and the video signal would not hold steady. Picture changes from perfect image to grey "no signal" screen continuously. Consistent tempo of about half a second of picture followed by half a second of grey "no signal" which repeats regardless of whether a DVD is loaded in the player or not. The actual "no signal" verbiage does not appear, but it's the same screen as when there is no signal.

What has been done -

Second 3910 player results in identical video issue when connected to my Pioneer Plasma.

An LCD plasma connected to my 3910 results in perfect picture when connected directly to the DVD player or at the other end of the Gefen extenders.

My 3910 connected to second Pioneer Plasma 1410 TV at reseller's facility results in same rythmic flicker, but not an actual full grey screen.

Pioneer plasma service technician connected Samsung DVD player via HDMI and the picture is perfect connected directly or via the Gefen devices.

Gefen devices have been replaced and symptons or issues have not changed.

Second 3910 player has not been connected to second Pioneer TV, so I don't have those results.

Finger Pointing - Pioneer technician says it's the DVD player, because Samsung works great. Home Theater installer says it's the TV, because LCD TV works perfectly and second 3910 has same symptons. TV reseller says it's the DVD player because of the flicker when my 3910 is connected to a second Pioneer Plasma.

Next Steps - I'm going to take the Denon 3910 in for repair, but was wondering if anyone had any advice. This is a very strange problem as testing with duplicate gear has resulted in more confusion instead of clarification.

TXS - Banymi

Thanks for the info, Jim! That'll do the trick nicely!

J.

I'm auditioning both a Denon 2910 and 3910. I have been having difficulty getting either of these units along with my ARCAM AVP700 to play multi-channel 5.1 sound. All I get out of either player with my processor is 2 channel sound. I have the Denon wired up to the ARCAM using the 5.1 analog output. I setup the Denon with the SACD setup to be in multi-channel mode. One interesting note is that on the Denon 3910 the super audio and blue disk illuminated but only the Left and Right speakers illuminated whereas on the 2910 when I tried that unit I got all 5 speakers plus the LFE channel to illuminate on the Denon display. I'm assuming that the display indicates which channels are being driven. Confused as to why 3910 would not have displayed all speakers. Could it be defective?? With neither setup am I getting any multi-channel sound. Any ideas?

Did you go into the setup menu and configure the 3910's settings? Many of the settings can't be accessed while a disc is playing, so that may be part of the problem. You need to setup your speaker configuration, size, etc and indicate how you want multichannel music played back. It doesn't sound like a defective player, but maybe just a matter of setting it up properly.

Hopefully that'll fix the problem.

J.

You may also want to make sure you actually have a MULTI Channel SACD you are plugging into this player. Not all SACD's are MULTI cahnnel, I have many that are 2 channel hires stereo. This does not mean you can't get LFE out of the stereo mix, you just have to have a processor that allows to send the LFE mix to the sub. Bottom line is there are many titles in the SACD format that are not MILTI channel.

SC

I just received a 40' HDMI cable form Better Cables and am having the same flickering from the HDMI output as with the 10m Cobalt cable. I guess I'll just use an adaptor and the DVI output

Check out the thread talking about the new line: a 3930 with the Realta chip. Sweet!

Yeah, just when my wife finally stopped kicking my ass..."Honey, guess what....? Denon just came out with..." (continuing asswhipping!). Just kidding...but for real, I never thought I'd drop a Cleveland on a DVD player...much less twice in as many years. I'll be waitin' for HD (of whatever variety or flavor) before I upgrade again.

J.

I bought my 3910 about a year ago with the thinking that:

1) It's an excellent unit and
2) It's good enough to be my last standard definition optical player and
3) I will most likely own it for a few years after I buy a hi-def player.

Know what's changed now? Not a damn thing.

Just my $.02.

Actually, you (and your little dog) have gotten a bit older...

J.

Well at least Jesus is in your corner....

I have a good feeling if I tell my wife "Honey, I want to upgrade the player again". I'll be seeing Jesus faster than planed!

No doubt I'll be waiting for the HD players..

Dogs look different here in Texas....

It's not a dog. It's Willy from Philly. Meowww.

Yup...same here. Maybe 2 or 3 years down the road, but sooner than that'd certainly be my undoing.

BTW, I know it's dog...but "And your little cat, too" just doesn't cut it! Apologize to Willy for me, I know how sensitive cats can be!

J.

Thanks for the heads up.

So much for being a member of the "Denon Owners Club" and getting advanced info on stuff.

At least Velodyne sends out a newsletter regularly.

I thought "and your little dog, too" was your version of "and the horse you rode in on."

No, it's from "The Wizard of Oz." But I do like your version...

J.

Ahh, yes. I completely missed the reference. Must've been been the poppies.

Or that nasty tornado...

J.

Any word on any firmware coming down the pipeline? I'm experiencing a bizarre surplus of CD-Rs since the DL3 update came out. Maybe designer coasters?

J.