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post #7171 of 7503
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I'm trying my 3910 with HDMI right now. I just played a DVD-A and passed hi-res multichannel to my new pre/pro via HDMI. I have not been able to pass DD/DTS for decoding in the pre/pro, but that's not necessary if they are decoded onboard and passed as mc audio.

So you must have it set to Multi Channel in Hdmi settings in the 3910??
Or?
post #7172 of 7503
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Originally Posted by LoWd0Wn View Post

So you must have it set to Multi Channel in Hdmi settings in the 3910??
Or?

Multichannel (Normal) is where I have mine right now.
post #7173 of 7503
Can somebody help me....

I just bought a used 3910.

1) How do you download Denon firmware updates into unit?
2) Does the Cat 6 Ethernet (or D Link) conection work better than the analog multi connections for audio?
3) Does the analog stereo connections sound better than the optical digital stereo?
4) Is it a given that the DVI connection will provide a better picture than the component connections?

Thanks.
post #7174 of 7503
1. you download it from the Denon site and burn it on to a cd(s)
2. and 3. depend on what you are connecting it to.
4 yes
post #7175 of 7503
2 & 3= Connecting to Denon AVR-3805
post #7176 of 7503
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Originally Posted by klewis View Post

2 & 3= Connecting to Denon AVR-3805

There was a long discussion about this much earlier in this thread, and the consensus was you should try both DL and analog and judge for yourself which should best with your speakers in your room. I personally prefer the DL using the bass management in the receiver, but most seem to prefer the analog connection.
post #7177 of 7503
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Multichannel (Normal) is where I have mine right now.

Going from the AVR4306 to the AVR4308 causing that many issues with my Denon 3910 is sure a drag. I can't believe I lost denon link and hdmi being able to be used togther .
No one has been able to answer me as to what I should do. It seems I can change to component to get my DD, DTS and DVD-A and SACD by way of the denon link but I loose my upconverting. And if I use HDMI I loose DD, DTS, and SACD. I do get Multi Channel in PCM instead.
Is that right?? My issues are in my post on page 239 post 7169.
Appreciate any ideas or help.
post #7178 of 7503
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Originally Posted by LoWd0Wn View Post

Going from the AVR4306 to the AVR4308 causing that many issues with my Denon 3910 is sure a drag. I can't believe I lost denon link and hdmi being able to be used togther .
No one has been able to answer me as to what I should do. It seems I can change to component to get my DD, DTS and DVD-A and SACD by way of the denon link but I loose my upconverting. And if I use HDMI I loose DD, DTS, and SACD. I do get Multi Channel in PCM instead.
Is that right?? My issues are in my post on page 239 post 7169.
Appreciate any ideas or help.

I've never used DL or iLink and am new to HDMI audio. But is it possible that the 3910 is in "video" mode instead of "audio" mode? That would mean DVD-A's are defaulting to Dolby Digital. Sorry I'm not more help.
post #7179 of 7503
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I've never used DL or iLink and am new to HDMI audio. But is it possible that the 3910 is in "video" mode instead of "audio" mode? That would mean DVD-A's are defaulting to Dolby Digital. Sorry I'm not more help.

No it is in Audio mode.
I read in an earlier post that the Denon 3910 is HDMI 1.1 ands the newer Denon Receivers are HDMI 1.3 and that they cannot read each other for passing on Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD Audio and SACD.
I get DVD audio, but in 2 channel, as well as DD and DTS. I had the 4306 for a few months waiting for the newer 4308 to come in and it all worked flawlessly.
Bummer!!
So that is what I am trying to find out, how to be able to set it up for the best possibilties. I guess the Denon 3910 is just getting too old for the newer technologies.

Also the Audio / Video setting is not for audio sound , it is for DVD audio only to pick what format it will read the dvd audio disc first and then play that..
post #7180 of 7503
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Originally Posted by LoWd0Wn View Post

No it is in Audio mode.
I read in an earlier post that the Denon 3910 is HDMI 1.1 ands the newer Denon Receivers are HDMI 1.3 and that they cannot read each other for passing on Dolby Digital, DTS, DVD Audio and SACD.

I've never heard that before. True, I have not been able to "bitstream" Dolby Digital or DTS over HDMI, but It is decoding them onboard and sending LPCM to the pre/pro, which shows it as Multichannel. And that is what my pre/pro reports when playing DVD-A and sending it as LPCM over HDMI.
post #7181 of 7503
[quote=LoWd0Wn;13218538]No it is in Audio mode.
..I guess the Denon 3910 is just getting too old for the newer technologies.

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I have My DVD 3910 hooked up to my AVR 4806 and all of those formats play on my HT through DL. If what you are saying is true HDMI 1.3 doesn't appear to be an upgrade for you.

My only thought is to confirm that you actually have Denon Link 3rd actually displayed in the Digital Interface Setup on the DVD-3910. If so, I would pose the question on that DenonJeff (all things denon, sticky) thread in Amps. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13218574
post #7182 of 7503
[quote=Zen Traveler;13219218]
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Originally Posted by LoWd0Wn View Post

No it is in Audio mode.
..I guess the Denon 3910 is just getting too old for the newer technologies.

QUOTE]



I have My DVD 3910 hooked up to my AVR 4806 and all of those formats play on my HT through DL. If what you are saying is true HDMI 1.3 doesn't appear to be an upgrade for you.

My only thought is to confirm that you actually have Denon Link 3rd actually displayed in the Digital Interface Setup on the DVD-3910. If so, I would pose the question on that DenonJeff (all things denon, sticky) thread in Amps. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post13218574

Thanks Zen,
Yes I do have the Denon Link 3rd Generation done. I have it set to 3rd inthe settings.
Isn't the 4806 last years model.
I also had last years with the 4306 and it was fine. It is this new one the 4308 that is causing me the issues with running hdmi and denon link.
Thanks for the link re Denon Stuff. I will check it out.
I read in an earlier post here about those issues re HDMI for 1.3 vs 1.1/
But this afternoon I was checking on Denon.com and it had a PDF on the support page for the new 4308 on the HDMI capabilities and it says it is compatible???
So I don't know what the hell???
post #7183 of 7503
Boy do I feel like a fool!!

I have been writing in about a problem with Denon Link not coming thru with HDMI in the 3910.
Well it does and it does flawlessly.
I was waiting for a call from Denon as I just couldn't figure out what setting I had missed. This is my 3rd Denon Amp and love them.
I was waiting for his call and in my mind going over it and also thinking about the Ethernet cable I need to get to do the firmware update and then it hit me.
I bet I got the Denon Link in the Ethernet slot.
Sure enough I did.
The Denon rep called and we had a good laugh about it as I have been going nuts trying to figure this.

So to the other people that were saying that the two ( AVR 4308 and the Denon 3910 do not react together due to the different types of HDMI) they are wrong.
It does and it does great!!
Settings for Denon 3910
HDMI 2 channel
Denon Link set to 3rd.
Settings for AVR 4308
Input Mode : Digital for the 3910.
It plays SACD, DVD-A and all formats of 5.1 sound.
post #7184 of 7503
Nothin' like a cheap fix. ;-)
post #7185 of 7503
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Originally Posted by Zen Traveler View Post

Nothin' like a cheap fix. ;-)

Hahaha
Your right about that one.
post #7186 of 7503
Sorry if this has been explained before, but I could not find it in this huge thread.

Is there any way to bypass the video proccessing in the 3910 and send a straight "through" signal by HDMI to my projector ? I have a Marantz VP15S1 with a very nice Gennum VXP GF9351 processor built in and I would like to use it for all of the video processing.
post #7187 of 7503
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Originally Posted by nelson4u View Post

Sorry if this has been explained before, but I could not find it in this huge thread.

Is there any way to bypass the video proccessing in the 3910 and send a straight "through" signal by HDMI to my projector ? I have a Marantz VP15S1 with a very nice Gennum VXP GF9351 processor built in and I would like to use it for all of the video processing.

Not via HDMI I don't think. DVDs are native 480i which the 3910 cannot outputted by HDMI. Even when set to do no scaling, it is deinterlacing and outputting 480p via HDMI.
post #7188 of 7503
I will be visiting NY in a few days and I was wondering if anybody could give me any advice on a discount store for audio. I am familiar with Harvey's (top dollar) and J&R, I don't recall any other store worth noticing.
post #7189 of 7503
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

I will be visiting NY in a few days and I was wondering if anybody could give me any advice on a discount store for audio. I am familiar with Harvey's (top dollar) and J&R, I don't recall any other store worth noticing.

Sound City, but that's in Jersey. Northern Jersey.
post #7190 of 7503
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Sound City, but that's in Jersey. Northern Jersey.

Thanks Pepar, I see that they have a convenient location in NY, NY also
SOUND CITY
58 WEST 45TH STREET
NEW YORK, NY
post #7191 of 7503
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

Thanks Pepar, I see that they have a convenient location in NY, NY also
SOUND CITY
58 WEST 45TH STREET
NEW YORK, NY

OK, I only ever dealt with them by phone and visited one time. Have cash - EUROS are popular here! - and be prepared to wheel-and-deal.
post #7192 of 7503
I guess they are orthodox, huh? :-)
post #7193 of 7503
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

I guess they are orthodox, huh? :-)

post #7194 of 7503
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post


I am Orthodox too, Greek Orthodox
post #7195 of 7503
I am so screwed! It's a Jewish holiday from the 18th until the 27th!!!
What is your experience guys? I got the above from B&H
Do they all close for so many days?
post #7196 of 7503
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

I am so screwed! It's a Jewish holiday from the 18th until the 27th!!!
What is your experience guys? I got the above from B&H
Do they all close for so many days?

ROTFL!
post #7197 of 7503
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

I guess they are orthodox, huh? :-)

Huh? I don't get it. What does this mean?
post #7198 of 7503
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Originally Posted by nelson4u View Post

Sorry if this has been explained before, but I could not find it in this huge thread.

Is there any way to bypass the video proccessing in the 3910 and send a straight "through" signal by HDMI to my projector ? I have a Marantz VP15S1 with a very nice Gennum VXP GF9351 processor built in and I would like to use it for all of the video processing.

Definitely give component a go, if it is possible with your cabling setup, and set the output to interlaced in the 3910. The component output on the 3910 is excellent and on my particular projector gives a cleaner image with less noise than dvi/hdmi. Dont necessarily dismiss it as inferior because of theoretical advantages of a digital connection.
post #7199 of 7503
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Originally Posted by gailstorm9 View Post

Huh? I don't get it. What does this mean?

Just reveals my previous experience with shops selling electronics of that sort. All good ones were owned by Orthodox Jewish people.
Their selling approach was not always straight. Having said that, B&H is my favorite store and it is also run by Orthodox Jewish guys.
My belief in general is that you can find good or bad professionals everywhere!
post #7200 of 7503
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

Just reveals my previous experience with shops selling electronics of that sort. All good ones were owned by Orthodox Jewish people.
Their selling approach was not always straight. Having said that, B&H is my favorite store and it is also run by Orthodox Jewish guys.
My belief in general is that you can find good or bad professionals everywhere!

This has become a sleepy little thread lately, so I'll continue the OT subject. Can't - and wouldn't - comment on anyone's ethnicity, but my experience with many of the online "photo" vendors is that they have killer prices, but beware the heavy upsell on warranties, accessories and supplies. The *never* have the best price on those. The typical trick is that, instead of just shipping your order, they will call for the upsell. If they have to leave a message, it is usually something along the lines of "there's a problem with your order." Anything to get you on the phone with them.

I'll go a bit further - let's leave nationalities and ethnicities out of this discussion.
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