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post #7471 of 7503
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Originally Posted by Hunter View Post

The 3910 also and importantly provides the SACD and DVD-A bitstream through its Firewire / IEEE 1394 connectors. This is a far more universal (becoming more difficult to find) format that is compatible with audio, video and computer hardware. It is at least as good as DL3 in terms of sound quality, and better in some technical aspects. Well worth the trouble to investigate.

I didn't even mention the Firewire output because I don't know of any current receivers that will accept it as an input. Thanks, though.
post #7472 of 7503
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Originally Posted by pbarach View Post

I didn't even mention the Firewire output because I don't know of any current receivers that will accept it as an input. Thanks, though.
You are correct.

And that's yet another reason to get a Pioneer VSX-59txi.
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post #7473 of 7503
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Originally Posted by jovend View Post

Hi!
Just joined and this is my first post. I need to ask some advice rgarding this player.
I've been offered a 5yr old unit, was told its in mint condition and very seldom used. I will be using it mainly for dvda/ sacd play. Any risk i should consider and is it worth the £150 the seller is asking for? Or should is there any alternative player out there.
Hoping for your assistance.
Regards
I bought a used 3910 about 6 months ago for $125. Wonderful player for my sacd and dvd-a hi-rez discs via denon link3 and my denon 4311. For everything else I use my oppo 83 via hdmi. I use oppo 83 for all my video and redbook cds.
post #7474 of 7503
Apology for the late reply.

Anyway a bit pissed off with what happened on this deal. The seller backed out after agreeing on the deal telling me that he's keeping the unit and not worth selling. Damn him lol. Anyway, i rest it for a week then SMS the guy using a different number asking if he still selling, lo and behold he is but he increased his selling price. Damn him again hahaha. I bought it anyway and now happily playing my SACDs.

Question. Would a 3805 be still a worthy buy these days ? or even advisable even if im just running a 2 channel system? In case, it will be my first receiver. Started quite late on this hobby lol...

Btw, my system includes a Rega Apollo, Squeezebox touch, the 3910, Sony 370 & a ps3. What do you guys think?
post #7475 of 7503
Ooops i forgot.. i have a Densen B110 as my amp.
post #7476 of 7503
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Originally Posted by jovend View Post

Question. Would a 3805 be still a worthy buy these days ? or even advisable even if im just running a 2 channel system? In case, it will be my first receiver. Started quite late on this hobby lol...
Btw, my system includes a Rega Apollo, Squeezebox touch, the 3910, Sony 370 & a ps3. What do you guys think?

The 3805 will allow you to send your SACD sound digitally from a 3910 to the 3805 via DenonLink. The Sony 370 and the ps3 won't do that with the 3805, because the 3805 won't accept SACD over HDMI, unlike many newer receivers.

The advantage of the DenonLink connection is that you can then apply the Denon RoomEQ to your SACD playback (you can't use RoomEQ with analog inputs). On the other hand, this RoomEQ is much inferior to the newer Audyssey MultiEQ XT or MultiEQ XT32.

I have a 3805 and it still works fine in my 2.1 channel system, but I replaced it in my home theater system with a newer 4310 that has much clearer sound, even when room correction systems are turned off during the comparison. And the 3805 has that horrid remote (but you can use a universal remote in its place if you like).

So in answer to your question, the 3805 is a worthy piece of equipment that is obsolete when it comes to certain features, but these features may not be important to you. And it depends on the price.
post #7477 of 7503
Hi mates,

I am trying to find information about fixing my Denon 3910. I have searched the internet and found loads of users with the same problem as me. My Denon does not accepts discs anymore. Any disc I put it, it says: loading and then it says 00h00m00 and the disc does not play. According to other reports there is a problem with the laser assembly. I was wondering if someone has the links of a DIY fix tutorial or maybe a cheap way to fix it/get the fixed part. I am based in western europe.

I also tried downloading new firmware but the denon site will not accept my serial code (neither europe or USA site). I know this post makes me look kinda lazy but I am sure someone experienced with this model can help me. I started digging through this thread, but there is just so much information.
I believe I have adequate skills and tools to open up the machine and fix some minor issues if that does the trick. I a replacement part is the only way, fine either way. Anyway, thanks a lot in advance, looking forward to your replies.
post #7478 of 7503
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Originally Posted by michidragon View Post




Jaws,


The 2910 procedure should be identical to the 3910 -- I can send you the pictures, or, pretty soon i can trim them / annotate them / put them up here (if they'll stay up). It's not very difficult.


However: Good news...


The $15 method *DOES WORK*. I replaced a bad HOP-1200R in the second DVD-3910 with a HOP-1120, and tried a HOP-1200S, as well. Both worked..


Total procedure time was fifteen minutes. Simply:


-Remove the unit cover

-Eject the disc tray and turn power off

-Remove the top of the transport box

-Undo the rail securing plate (two screws) at the rear of the laser slide mechanism

-Lift the lock for the ribbon cable to the laser head and remove it from the laser head.

-Lift both rails (tilting them upwards) and slide the laser head (including the white gear rack) off - DO NOT LOSE ANY SPRINGS!

-While holding the white gear rack - DO NOT LOSE THE SPRING! - to the NEW laser head, slide the laser head back on the rails.

-Screw down the rails under the rail securing plate again,

-Plug the ribbon cable back into the laser mechanism and lock it

-Using solder wick, and a 15w soldering iron, desolder the two (or one in the case of HOP-1200W) solder blobs towards the rear right of the laser head (a gentle touch works fine)

-Screw the top of the transport box back on

-Put the cover of the 3910 back on

-Plug in, power on, go.



The caveats:


-DO NOT LOSE ANY SPRINGS!!!! There are three of them: One under each rail under the rail securing plate, and one under the laser head itself, between the laser head and the white gear rack. Just be careful.


-If you have a HOP-1120/1200R/1200S traverse mechanism, you can't use a HOP-1200W laser head. The reason is, there's a little white tab of plastic that gets in the way. (Electrically they're the same. If you're replacing the entire traverse mechanism, it does NOT matter if your old traverse CONTAINED a 1120/1200R/1200S and the new one has a 1200W) - This is purely a physical 'will it fit' issue.


Pictures as soon as I get things more organized.


Note: The traverse mechanism is simply: the rails, the metal frame, the gear motor, and the spindle motor. I don't feel that replacing the entire traverse is neccessary. You can go your own way on this, $115 or $15, but at least its not a choice of $500 to get repaired or $1500 for a new/equivalent unit anymore.


SO: Denon DVD-3910 with 00h00m00s problem FIXED, for $15, in 15 minutes.



... Now, does anyone have a non-working DVD-3930 they're willing to part with?
Here is a good post to start on.
I had mine fixed by a local repair shop (not denon) and it has worked for 2 years or so since.
post #7479 of 7503
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Originally Posted by IwantmyTHX View Post

Here is a good post to start on.
I had mine fixed by a local repair shop (not denon) and it has worked for 2 years or so since.
Oh my, looks like I started reading the thread from the wrong direction! I started with the first like 50 pages, while my solution was on the page before this one! Thanks for much for this. I will now look for a good place to get a new laser for cheap.
post #7480 of 7503
I had a problem with 3910, because it could read only single layers DVDs. I ordered a laser pick up (not the whole traverse) and using your instructions I replaced it.
I had a partial success. It can now read dual layer DVDs, but it still will not read a hybrid SACD. Could I have done something wrong?
I tried initializing the unit after installing, but no luck.
Thanks
post #7481 of 7503
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Originally Posted by vlajkomuaddib View Post

I had a problem with 3910, because it could read only single layers DVDs. I ordered a laser pick up (not the whole traverse) and using your instructions I replaced it.
I had a partial success. It can now read dual layer DVDs, but it still will not read a hybrid SACD. Could I have done something wrong?
I tried initializing the unit after installing, but no luck.
Thanks

I think your unit was defective and still is. I have never had any problems with dual layer DVDs or hybrid SACDs on my 3910.
post #7482 of 7503
Thanks, but what do you mean defective? Is it the whole optical mechanism or something else, since I put the new laser and had the improvement. In your opinion, of course. I really thought, reading this post, that the laser replacement is gonna fix the hybrid sacd reading problem. Now, I would order the mechanism, but I am not sure if it is the solution.
Thank you again
post #7483 of 7503
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Originally Posted by vlajkomuaddib View Post

Thanks, but what do you mean defective? Is it the whole optical mechanism or something else, since I put the new laser and had the improvement. In your opinion, of course. I really thought, reading this post, that the laser replacement is gonna fix the hybrid sacd reading problem. Now, I would order the mechanism, but I am not sure if it is the solution.
Thank you again

I'm not a self-repair guy. I was only trying to say that a 3910 in good working order will read dual-layer DVDs and hybrid SACDs without any problems (assuming the discs aren't in poor shape). If your machine can't do that, something is broken--it's not a design issue.
post #7484 of 7503
Yes, I know it is broken. But I wanted to repair it, thinking that laser pick up replacement will do the trick. As I said, it helped, because, it now plays every disc, even dl, except the hybrid sacd. I just don't know what else to do. That's why I posted. I was hoping there was something I missed... The only thing left to do is replace the whole laser mechanism, but will that fix it for sure? What else could have gone wrong with the player?
Thank you
post #7485 of 7503
Hi,

I searched this thread but didn't find anything about 0dbFS+ issue. Which i just read about today in this review:

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/HardwareReviews/Denon3910/DenonDVD-3910.html
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The Bad Points
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does not play back 0dBFS+ levels on PCM without distortion

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Fortunately there is a link in that article to an explanation. http://www.audioholics.com/audio-technologies/issues-with-0dbfs-levels-on-digital-audio-playback-systems

Searching further i found this Forum post on the Denon 3910 http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=dvda&m=17909 which states that it's not a problem if you bypass the AL24 processing.

Has anyone here had the same experience? AL24 processing is good/crap? confused.gif

Happy New Year!

Cheers
Per
post #7486 of 7503
Dear Denon 3910 Owners Thread,

Before the last posting is posted, i would like to aks you all a question:


Do you still use your Denon 3910 or did your replace it - with what?


looking forward to your answers...

Still got mine
Cheers
Per
post #7487 of 7503
I use it now in a headphone-only audio system, still works great. I replaced it with an Oppo 103 that has better upsampling of DVDs, plays BluRays, streams Netflix and other online services, and plays music from USB drives and wirelessly from my PC in the next room. The audio quality of these players is identical over HDMI, but I have not compared their analog outputs.
post #7488 of 7503
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Originally Posted by DonPedro34 View Post

Dear Denon 3910 Owners Thread,

Before the last posting is posted, i would like to aks you all a question:


Do you still use your Denon 3910 or did your replace it - with what?


looking forward to your answers...

Still got mine
Cheers
Per

I still use mine for cycling DVDs when I'm riding my indoor trainer and I use it for SACDs.

My PS3 does all the heavy lifting now.
post #7489 of 7503
I retired mine to a multi channel music room hooked up to an old Denon 3808 or a Pioneer 59TXi
post #7490 of 7503
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Originally Posted by DonPedro34 View Post

Dear Denon 3910 Owners Thread,

Before the last posting is posted, i would like to aks you all a question:


Do you still use your Denon 3910 or did your replace it - with what?


looking forward to your answers...

Still got mine
Cheers
Per
I still use mine for SACD & DVD-A playback via Denon link 3 and my Denon AVR4311 biggrin.gif
post #7491 of 7503
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Originally Posted by HTPCat View Post

I still use mine for SACD & DVD-A playback via Denon link 3 and my Denon AVR4311 biggrin.gif
Ditto except AVR-4806 here. Also mix in an occasional CD too.
post #7492 of 7503
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Originally Posted by IwantmyTHX View Post

Ditto except AVR-4806 here. Also mix in an occasional CD too.

That's my combo
post #7493 of 7503
Still have mine, but it's underutilized though
I tend to stream music and Video from a NAS to my preamp
post #7494 of 7503
I am using mine this New Years morning to play Mark Knopflers ""Shangri-La" SACD. thru a Denon 3806 and via denon link3 - still sounds good !!
post #7495 of 7503
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Originally Posted by HTPCat View Post

I still use mine for SACD & DVD-A playback via Denon link 3 and my Denon AVR4311 biggrin.gif

I have this setup and use a Sony Bluray player for SACDs because my DVD-3910 stopped reading them about a year ago, but still use it for DVD-As.
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Originally Posted by IwantmyTHX View Post

Ditto except AVR-4806 here. Also mix in an occasional CD too.

This was my previous setup and it worked great until lightning struck and destroyed my AVR-4806 frown.gif

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Originally Posted by Ron_Phelps View Post

I am using mine this New Years morning to play Mark Knopflers ""Shangri-La" SACD. thru a Denon 3806 and via denon link3 - still sounds good !!

Cool. Last night I pulled out my Mark Knopfler "Sailing to Philadelphia" DVD-A and played it on the DVD-3910 and then used the Sony to play Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" SACD and both sounded excellent and wish both formats were getting/got more support.
post #7496 of 7503
I am hoping that the AVR-4520CI/DBT-3313UDCI will sound even better sometime in 2014.
post #7497 of 7503
I have "complimented" mine with a Marantz UD7006. I won't be getting rid of it any time soon though, it's still good.
post #7498 of 7503
I'm "new" to the 3910 as I purchased 2 of them in the last 6 months. I find it is hard to beat the value as I got them for around 200 each. Excellent improvement in my modest system as I was using a PS3 for everything before and I was immediately impressed in the difference in sound quality. I use the multichannel analog outs for SACD and DVD-Audio and I see no need to replace the 3910 anytime soon. I would even buy another. I'm using an Integra 40.2 preamp and Sherbourne PA7-350 amp running on 240Volts with Definitive Technology speakers. I know its not the "ultimate" system but for the money I have invested I feel it is absolutely excellent and the 3910 fits the bill nicely for everything except blue-ray. In short I guess I'm saying it still has merit 10+ years later if you're not looking to spend a fortune on something new. I'm glad to see guys out there still discussing this unit.
post #7499 of 7503
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Originally Posted by IwantmyTHX View Post

Ditto except AVR-4806 here. Also mix in an occasional CD too.
Awesome,

Nice, i have been looking for a cheap 2nd hand AVR-4306 somewhere, but they are still pretty expensive!

Never heard of the 4806 - got to google it.

Cheers
Per
post #7500 of 7503
Help if you can.

I am unable to connect a Denon 3910 to a Pioneer vsx-74txvi with a eee1394 cable. The receiver will not detect the 3910 and the eee1394 light on the denon just blinks. Tried two new cables and checked every setting i can think of.
ideas anyone? Is the denon 3910 actually compatible with the pioneer receiver (ilink)? Thanks in advance.
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