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post #2641 of 2773
I am now moving Dish material to BD-R disk which play flawlessly on Windows Media and XBMC.

Is there any software that can wrap these MPEG4 files such that the disks will pay on a standard BluRay player?

So far my Pioneer and Phillips units report the disks as unplayable.
post #2642 of 2773
I use Nero 10 Platinum to burn a bluray movie disk. You can either have it start playing with or without a menu. There is a program that "Nero 10 Platinum" comes with called "Nero Vision Xtra". All you do to do is select "Make Blu-ray Disc". Then simply drag and drop your dish files into the application.. and hit, next, next, and Burn the disc. I just tested this with the movie transformers.ts (recorded on a DishNetwork R5000 box). Works perfectly.

You can even create chapters to jump to. It's so easy, I doubt you would need instructions.

PS: Be careful not to exceed more than the size of the BDR disc (if you plan to have mutiple files on there). If you do, Nero will try to re-encode/compress the files to fit the disc. It will show you how much space you're using (and how much free space you have) at the bottom of the screen.

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Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post

I am now moving Dish material to BD-R disk which play flawlessly on Windows Media and XBMC.

Is there any software that can wrap these MPEG4 files such that the disks will pay on a standard BluRay player?

So far my Pioneer and Phillips units report the disks as unplayable.
post #2643 of 2773
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post

I am now moving Dish material to BD-R disk which play flawlessly on Windows Media and XBMC.

Is there any software that can wrap these MPEG4 files such that the disks will pay on a standard BluRay player?

So far my Pioneer and Phillips units report the disks as unplayable.

This was the main reason I made the original post here...the TViX plays the H.264 transport streams created by the R5000 without problems (though I did have a problem with one recording when a new driver was released).
post #2644 of 2773
I haven't had any problems with those mini connectors (since you posted that exact same comment seven years ago).
post #2645 of 2773
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Originally Posted by Solfan View Post

[3/26/11] Does anyone get small file sizes with their recordings? A two- hour movie may end up as, say, a 4,567 MB size, when it should normally be around 17gig. Vip211.
This happens occasionally here with Win 7 32 bit, as well as an older XP installation, without rhyme or reason. They're difficult to trim using the TScutter tool, too.

I can now fix all of these issues with Videoredo v.4.20.7.629, as I've been learning the ropes quite quickly over the past few weeks.

Thanks for the heads-up on this great program, guys.

Trimming, null-stripping, restoring previously broken files....the works. Christ, I'm busy!
post #2646 of 2773
Quote:
Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post

I am now moving Dish material to BD-R disk which play flawlessly on Windows Media and XBMC.

Is there any software that can wrap these MPEG4 files such that the disks will pay on a standard BluRay player?

So far my Pioneer and Phillips units report the disks as unplayable.

TsmuxeR is a free program that can take a .ts or .m2ts file and make a Blu-Ray or AVCHD folder structure and then burn onto BD-R or DVD disks using Imgburn (free) and they will play on most BD players, I believe the dish encoding is OK for doing this if not then they can be re-encoded into proper BD format using Ripbot264 (free) program from Doom9.org forum. So if the file size is smaller than 8 GByte then it would be cheaper to use DVD disks instead of BD-R disks and the quality is the same.

Mike T
post #2647 of 2773
95% of films I record these days with the R5000 in the compressed mode can be placed on a single layer DVD+R disk. The other 5% can go on a DVD+R DL. There is no need to use a BD-R disk for archiving a single film recorded from Dishnetwork with the R5000. It's not worth it for me to put multiple films on a BD-R disk.

I've used Nero Vision, Tsremux and TsmuxeR to create AVC-HD disks that play in Blu-ray players, but they all had deficiencies, IMO. The disks I created with TsmuxeR and Tsremux had lip sync issues. Nero Vision re-encodes the video, which can degrade the picture and is a waste of time.

My best results come from playing the raw TS file on my Sony PS3 (3.50 firmware or earlier played from a UDF DVD+R 2.5 disk) or streamed to a hardware media player over my network (either SageTV or a TVIX box).
post #2648 of 2773
Quote:
Originally Posted by Solfan View Post

I haven't had any problems with those mini connectors (since you posted that exact same comment seven years ago).

Ditto that! This is a non-issue!
post #2649 of 2773
Quote:
Originally Posted by stjr View Post

95% of films I record these days with the R5000 in the compressed mode can be placed on a single layer DVD+R disk. The other 5% can go on a DVD+R DL. There is no need to use a BD-R disk for archiving a single film recorded from Dishnetwork with the R5000. It's not worth it for me to put multiple films on a BD-R disk.

I've used Nero Vision, Tsremux and TsmuxeR to create AVC-HD disks that play in Blu-ray players, but they all had deficiencies, IMO. The disks I created with TsmuxeR and Tsremux had lip sync issues. Nero Vision re-encodes the video, which can degrade the picture and is a waste of time.

My best results come from playing the raw TS file on my Sony PS3 (3.50 firmware or earlier played from a UDF DVD+R 2.5 disk) or streamed to a hardware media player over my network (either SageTV or a TVIX box).

I read somewhere here that the compressed mode can be problematic with some player software?

The advantage I see for a standard BluRay is that it will play on any BluRay player. Particularly a common stand alone player.
post #2650 of 2773
Compressed MPEG-2 files had problems sometimes when played with the MyHD card. I find that compressed AVC files play better in most software players, because you're not dealing with all those unnecessary null packets. R5000 AVC TS files play great in Windows 7 - Windows Media Player.
post #2651 of 2773
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Originally Posted by Glimmie View Post

I read somewhere here that the compressed mode can be problematic with some player software?

My Tvix M6500 player had horrendously wacky navigation and file size issues on the null-stripped (variable-bit-rate) R5000 recordings. Like Kei said, I fixed it with a firmware update, the last few nights have been smooth sailin'.

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"There's nothing on it worthwhile, we're not going to watch it in this household, and I don't want it in your intellectual diet." -Philo T. Farnsworth
post #2652 of 2773
Does anyone know what are the actual symptoms for playing back cableTV mpeg2 compressed R5000 recordings? I have always very bad stutter with strong interlace artifacts on 2 out of 3 of my PCs. I've never tried turning off the compression setting on my R5000s. Does anyone know if local channels are padded with null packets as well? Would R5000 "compression" setting have any affect on local HD channel recording for mpeg2 cable TV?
post #2653 of 2773
Yes, over the air broadcasts are at a constant bit rate so they do have null packets. I also seem to remember if you have the R5000 software to not compress the data stream, then it will add null packets to the source if necessary to maintain the default constant bit rate setting. The broadcasts can be interlaced (1080i) so you will have to set your player software to de-interlace to remove the interlace artifacts during playback.

I am interested is how you achieve your sig statements, you can use PM if necessary.

Thanks

Mike T
post #2654 of 2773
Thanks for replying back Mike. I just set my R5000 app to insert null packets so the stream is at a constant 19.2mbps. However, after I did this, I am still noticing something odd/non-standard with the 1080i movie/premium channel recordings. They dont playback like a typical 1080i recording from a local channel using my clear QAM tuners.

What's different about the R5000 MPEG2 movie channel 1080i recordings that causes weird deinterlace related issues? Of course, my system is capable of deinterlacing standard 1080i mpeg2 files such as local 1080i TV channel recordings. My SageTV hardware extender plays these weird R5000 mpeg2 movie channel files perfectly.

PS: Feel free to PM me with any questions you have about my setup. I dont think however, it would be too interesting to you since it's all based on SageTV products; which is no longer being sold.

Thanks,
Michael



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Originally Posted by mtallent View Post

Yes, over the air broadcasts are at a constant bit rate so they do have null packets. I also seem to remember if you have the R5000 software to not compress the data stream, then it will add null packets to the source if necessary to maintain the default constant bit rate setting. The broadcasts can be interlaced (1080i) so you will have to set your player software to de-interlace to remove the interlace artifacts during playback.

I am interested is how you achieve your sig statements, you can use PM if necessary.

Thanks

Mike T
post #2655 of 2773
How do I Power ON, or Power OFF my cableboxes using command-line (version 3.1D)?
For example how do I power on the below device from command-line?

Device #4 100570E

I saw some examples for command line, but didn't know how I could send the pwr IR command and how to direct it to the proper device.


Thanks,
post #2656 of 2773
Quote:
Originally Posted by MKANET View Post

How do I Power ON, or Power OFF my cableboxes using command-line (version 3.1D)?
For example how do I power on the below device from command-line?

Device #4 100570E

I saw some examples for command line, but didn't know how I could send the pwr IR command and how to direct it to the proper device.


Thanks,

Unfortunately, you can't do that in multi-instance. I asked nextcom about that before:

Quote:
Hi,
No, currently there is no way to direct the command line for multi instance. That's why it won't let you do it.
post #2657 of 2773
Thanks for the quick reply. Oh well.

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Originally Posted by boiler11 View Post

Unfortunately, you can't do that in multi-instance. I asked nextcom about that before:
post #2658 of 2773
Video stuttering issue identified! Affects people using R5000 based devices and Cablecard. I was able to get this to the attention of nevcairiel (creator of LAV filters). It looks like he is looking into a fix for display cards that can't handle switching between soft deinterlacing/hardware deinterlacing quick enough. If you have this stuttering issue; and, want to show your interest in a fix... you should post a comment on doom9 LAV Video filters thread


The 29/59 Frame Rate Issue (affects HBO and some other paid TV channels when playing back on several popular display cards)
post #2659 of 2773
hi, i got a vip211 on a sale and have inside a r5000, i need to know how to deinstall the device, now these receivers can use EHD, not interested on the device r5000, somebody can tell me what have to do? only have to remove the device or have to do any others modifications?
thanks in advance.
post #2660 of 2773
Nextcom Wireless can do it for you for pretty cheap.

I'm curious how is a receiver with EHD a replacement for an R5000 based VIP211? VIP211+R5000 functionality is currently irreplaceable. You can't do anything with EHD except for add more disk space to the receiver. All the files are encrypted except for local TV channels. These poor people learned the hard way...
http://forum.videohelp.com/threads/3...nal-hard-drive

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Originally Posted by felino View Post

hi, i got a vip211 on a sale and have inside a r5000, i need to know how to deinstall the device, now these receivers can use EHD, not interested on the device r5000, somebody can tell me what have to do? only have to remove the device or have to do any others modifications?
thanks in advance.
post #2661 of 2773
only interested on the normal capabilities of the vip211, record on a external hard drive, pause ect, i am very far and send this receiver is expensive, i was thinking to remove it by my hand with my tools, but afraid is not only remove and play, some others mods or anything have to be do it, i am on hawai
post #2662 of 2773
Quote:
Originally Posted by felino View Post

only interested on the normal capabilities of the vip211, record on a external hard drive, pause ect, i am very far and send this receiver is expensive, i was thinking to remove it by my hand with my tools, but afraid is not only remove and play, some others mods or anything have to be do it, i am on hawai

There's no need to remove it. Just don't use it. I have an external hard drive on mine and if I don't install or set the R5000 software, the mod does nothing.
post #2663 of 2773
too late, remove it today and now the ird not give me video on free channels, only black screen with menus and guides and all of that but no video of any kind
post #2664 of 2773
felino,

There is nothing that the r5000 is doing that prevents the ViP from showing video.

A lot of the ViP211 boxes have older versions of the software that don't support the new Dish configurations out of the box.

You need to have a purple 3rd gen Nagra access card, and you probably need to get the box to update it's software in order for it to work.

-Wes
post #2665 of 2773
did that, have the last software and a n3 card inserted, with the r5000 showed the free channels, now without the r5000 not video on the free channels, something is missing, only desold the r5000 modules and nothing more.
post #2666 of 2773
You de-soldered it?

Why would you do that? You could simply unplug the ribbon cable from the r5000 PCB and unscrew the PCB from the ViP211 chassis.

That way it could easily be re-installed later.

You probably ruined the board when you de-soldered it.
post #2667 of 2773
thank found the diagram to mount again, i think something maybe is broke.
post #2668 of 2773
When i try to use compressed (no null packets) option the program freezes and I get a message that the HD Video Recorder has stopped working.

I am using Windows 7 with the vista 64 nextcom software. It does the same thing on an XP desktop I own. I really want to strip those packets. Im getting tired over 19GB HD Basketball games when they should be 4-5GB. Anyone else have this problem?
post #2669 of 2773
That's odd. I thought that removing the null packets only affects playback on some media players that can't handle vbr files. If this is happening on two different desktops, I think it's related to your content provider. Do you have cableTV or dish-network? I dont have any problems with stripping the null packets or not.

I hope you dont mind me asking (unrelated to your problem) Do you have the multi-instance version of the DVR app? If you do, I'm sure you noticed very quickly what it does to your Win7 64 System Tray icons once it's minimized. Since I use my R5000 PC as a full time workstation (and can't have it screw up my tray icons), I had no choice but to hide the whole DVR app by running it as a Windows service using an app called "Always Up" (very similar to Srvany.exe in the Resource Kit). I'm guessing this bizarre behavior doesnt happen with the Vista64 system tray. I'm just curious what you do.

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Originally Posted by reekinhavoc View Post

When i try to use compressed (no null packets) option the program freezes and I get a message that the HD Video Recorder has stopped working.

I am using Windows 7 with the vista 64 nextcom software. It does the same thing on an XP desktop I own. I really want to strip those packets. Im getting tired over 19GB HD Basketball games when they should be 4-5GB. Anyone else have this problem?
post #2670 of 2773
Thanks for the reply MKANET. I guess I didnt put my problem succinctly. I mean when I choose compressed in the preferences and press ok or enter r5000hd.exe stops working. It freezes and you have to re run the exe. Of course when you go back to preferences the constant bit rate is still picked. It also happens if you choose the 23mb/s option. The program or exe stops working.
I only have the one instance version so my tray is not affected.
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