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post #10081 of 10855
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Originally Posted by txrose View Post

Since your using a cable box how is it connected to your set? It totally floors me that a cable company is just now providing local network channels in HD. Do look at the zoom/aspect ratio settings on the Moto cable box and your set.

Did you realize you replied to a posting from Nov 2004???
post #10082 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

I'm in a different boat where I'm currently switching back and forth as to which DVR I should get. The choices are pretty limited for OTA which I have currently while the new Elite Premiere looked pretty tempting before I found out that it doesn't support OTA. I'm looking for something that can do both as I may go back to cable in the future. Not too many choices there.

You are so right there. Still, the ChannelMaster unit isn't that bad at $350 when you consider it's hard to even find a simple VCR with a digital tuner. My problem is I don't NEED anything, so I keep putting it off. However, I am determined to get a tablet. I just hate the thought of wasting $450 if it doesn't work out the way I hope it will or if something better comes out after Christmas. I do need to connect this laptop to my bedroom TV via HDMI simply to see how it works. That will give me more info for making a decision.
post #10083 of 10855
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Anyone been to Best Buy at Arrowhead lately? My, have they changed. Did a quick check of tablets and both my wife and I preferred the Thrive over the iPad2, Galaxy and Xoom. Will be going back for further checks soon.
post #10084 of 10855
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

Anyone been to Best Buy at Arrowhead lately? My, have they changed. Did a quick check of tablets and both my wife and I preferred the Thrive over the iPad2, Galaxy and Xoom. Will be going back for further checks soon.

Best Buy is making a major bet on tablets.

I was in the ATT store last week and really liked the Acer Iconia Tab A500.
post #10085 of 10855
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

I don't know what ThisTV is and not sure what your point is, but Cox sure won't carry it if you and a bunch of others don't let both Cox and KTVK know you want it. It's all up to their negotions for carriage, how much Cox is willing to pay and how much KTVK is willing to accept.

If nobody knows that it's there....and you obviously didn't....who would ask for it?
For all that most people know, RTV no longer exist as well...or even how many people know that Cox Ch. 95 is now Live Well Network and not goAZtraffic.

Here a link to ThisTV Phoenix: http://phoenix.thistv.com/
post #10086 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

If nobody knows that it's there....and you obviously didn't....who would ask for it?
For all that most people know, RTV no longer exist as well...or even how many people know that Cox Ch. 95 is now Live Well Network and not goAZtraffic.

Here a link to ThisTV Phoenix: http://phoenix.thistv.com/

Hey, cool, thanks for the link. I think I'm going to have to pull my Cox QAM in the bedroom and hook up an indoor OTA antenna.

BTW, I get your point, but look at it from the Cox perspective. No one is going to sign up for cable because they carry 3.2 or even 7.1-2-3. Cable is not like it was in the old days where these local stations were clamoring to get carried. Now there are fees and contracts involved and that slows down the process, if it doesn't stop it in its tracks. If KTVK doesn't adverise ThisTV, then no one knows about it and doesn't ask for it.

IMHO, Cox already pays for channels very few watch, but that is due to bundling contracts with the owners. That may be changing, but I still don't see a solution to things like ThisTV, MeTV, and RTV.

FWIW, I recently completed a long online survey (about 25 minutes) and many questions were about specific channels and groups of channels. I took it to mean they are looking at TWC's new offering, a lower-priced package of select channels.
post #10087 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Did you realize you replied to a posting from Nov 2004???

No I didn't. I appreciate your pointing that out. I know why I was on the first page but I can't explain why I thought I was responding to a new post. Sorry!
post #10088 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

Cox Cable uses virtual tagging for the local channels in Clear QAM, so......

3.1 KTVK
5.1 KPHO
5.2 KPHO Weather
7.1 KAZT
...and so on. Basically what you would see if you used rabbit ears for OTA.

a couple of nuggets added in though:

TBS-HD is 79.1
WGN-HD is 79.3

The rest is basically SD copies of the HD locals, Gubmint Channels and Shopping/Barker Junk.

GO D'backs!!!!

Thank you. But you mentioned SD copies and other channels... without telling us what those channel NUMBERS are. This is what I'm talking about. When it come to the "virtual tagging", only 2 channels come in clearly.

I do know there is a Google List (or whatever it's called) that lists the exact channels for clear-qam, but I cannot find it. Anyone?
post #10089 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Atarian999 View Post

When it come to the "virtual tagging", only 2 channels come in clearly.

I have no idea what you are saying here. Perhaps an example would help?

What are you using for a tuner? On my TV, the SD "analog" channels come in on their Cox channel numbers. That is, AMC is channel 43, TNT is channel 26, etc., just like in the Cox channel lineup on their website. The Clear QAM "digital" channels are listed as explained in the First Post here. But, even so, what difference does it make? You get the channels you get and they all have logos that are displayed periodically, if not 24/7, to tell you what they are.
post #10090 of 10855
This is best I can give, enjoy.



85-11 2 CSPAN 528x480i
4:3

qam256 103-10 3 KTVK 544x480i
4:3

qam256 74-1 3.1 KTVKDT 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 79-3 4 WGNAMER 1920x1080p
16:9

qam256 73-2 5.1 KPHO HD 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 73-4 5.2 KPHO CB 704x480i
4:3

qam256 80-6 6 KASW 544x480i
4:3

qam256 85-50 7 COX7 528x480i
4:3

qam256 76-1 7.1 KAZT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 76-4 7.2 KAZTDT2 720x480i
4:3

qam256 72-5 8 PBS Wor 704x480i
4:3

qam256 72-1 8.1 KAETDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 72-3 8.2 Create 704x480i
4:3

qam256 103-9 10 KSAZ 544x480i
4:3

qam256 71-1 10.1 KSAZDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 103-8 12 KPXN 544x480i
4:3

qam256 72-2 12.1 KPNX 12 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 72-4 12.2 KPNXDT2-1 704x480i
4:3

qam256 80-7 13 AZTV7 544x480i
4:3

qam256 73-5 15 KNXV 704x480i
704x480p
4:3

qam256 103-6 15 KNXV 544x480i
4:3

qam256 73-1 15.1 KNXVDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 75-2 33.1 KTVW-DT
qam256 76-2 35.1 KFPH-CD
qam256 77-3 39.1 KTAZDT 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 75-1 51.1 KPPXDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 71-2 61.1 KASW HD 1920x1080i
16:9

qam256 66-24 96 HSN 528x480i
4:3

qam256 84-12 98 QVC 528x480i
4:3

qam256 74-3 1009 KUTPDT 1280x720p
16:9

qam256 79-1 1016 TBSHDP 1920x1080i
1920x1080p
16:9

qam256 80-4 TBN 544x480i
4:3

qam256 80-5 KASW 544x480i
4:3

qam256 80-8 KTVW 544x480i
4:3

qam256 84-77 DIY 544x480i
4:3

qam256 85-5 GOAC123 528x480i
4:3

qam256 90 ONDEMAND
qam256 91 ONDEMAND
qam256 92 ONDEMAND
qam256 93 ONDEMAND
qam256 94 ONDEMAND
qam64 95-1 LEASE 544x480i
4:3

qam256 100 ONDEMAND
qam256 101 ONDEMAND
qam256 102 ONDEMAND
qam256 103-1 MY45 544x480i
4:3

qam256 103-3 UNKNOWN 720x480i
4:3

qam256 103-4 UNKNOWN 544x480i
4:3

qam256 103-5 EIGHTH 528x480i
4:3

qam256 103-7 CBS SD 544x480i
4:3

qam256 104-2 COXMCTV 544x480i
4:3

qam256 124 ONDEMAND
qam256 125 ONDEMAND
qam256 126 ONDEMAND
qam256 127 ONDEMAND
qam256 128-46 SHOPNBC 704x480i
4:3

qam256 128-47 PENTAGON 704x480i
4:3

qam256 128-48 JEWELRY 704x480i
4:3
post #10091 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

This is best I can give, enjoy.

That's what I don't understand. That list is right out of the lnk in the First Post and only contains the digital channels, not the SD analog channels I mentioned. There has got to be something else he's looking for. Between that list and the Cox channel lineup for Basic and Expanded channels, there is nothing more that I'm aware of and I don't know where it's all contained in a single list. If I did, I'd add it to the First Post.
post #10092 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Ron-on-Mrng-Vsta View Post

Yes, and I remember various outfits were selling devices to try to overcome their scrambling.

I had more fun, for a while, in the early 1990's, with our cable provider. I had done a comparison of what movies were offered on HBO and Showtime, and decided Showtime would be the best deal for us.

I was a little surprised when our 18-year old son agreed that Showtime was the best choice, but after we got the new box he showed me what he meant: If you had two cable boxes, which we did, and if you hooked them up in tandem, you could tune to just about any scrambled channel you wanted on the first box, and as long as you had the second box set to the Showtime channel -- it must have been 4 -- you would get a clear signal, no problem. These were the old cable boxes with the slider bar. As I recall, in addition to Showtime we could watch HBO, and all but one of the movie channels, either The Movie Channel or Cinemax, which was up around 16.

I hadn't intended to be pirating cable signals, and was generally too busy with work and family to spend a lot of time watching (or even recording) movies, and didn't want to encourage my son in his hacking/phreaking/pirating ways, so I soon dropped the Showtime subscription. But I have to admit, it was fun while it lasted!

Showtime was on 2 , those old Sylvania cables boxes sent the signal out on channel 2. This was a fun thing to come across. I remember my parents doing this when I was a kid but thinking back on it I never could think of a reason to chain cable boxes but now I know!
post #10093 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

This is best I can give, enjoy.

Thanks! You're a god!
post #10094 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Atarian999 View Post

Thanks! You're a god!

Have to figured out how to get to that list yourself for the next time Cox moves things around?
post #10095 of 10855
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Originally Posted by DoubleDAZ View Post

Anyone been to Best Buy at Arrowhead lately? My, have they changed. Did a quick check of tablets and both my wife and I preferred the Thrive over the iPad2, Galaxy and Xoom. Will be going back for further checks soon.

Haven't been there but FWIW, I bought a 16 GB Thrive at Best Buy when they first hit the street. I've since added a 16 GB SD card and reformatted my 320 GB USB connectable hard drive (formerly the back-up for my now languishing HP laptop) to exFAT configuration so that it plays nice too. I am totally pleased with the Thrive.
post #10096 of 10855
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Originally Posted by samsurd2 View Post

Haven't been there but FWIW, I bought a 16 GB Thrive at Best Buy when they first hit the street. I've since added a 16 GB SD card and reformatted my 320 GB USB connectable hard drive (formerly the back-up for my now languishing HP laptop) to exFAT configuration so that it plays nice too. I am totally pleased with the Thrive.

Thanks for the feedback. I've decided I'm going to buy 2 Thrives, probably the 32G versions even though I know I can get more storage for less by going with the 16G unit and SD cards. I've already bought the Blue and Silver replacement backs for $6 each at Best Buy so my wife and I will be able to tell ours apart quickly.
post #10097 of 10855
Bickering removed. Keep it civil. No infractions, this time, but I may ban some folks from the thread if it continues.
post #10098 of 10855
Huh, I must have missed something because I always see spirited debates in this thread and nothing considered outlandish or bickering
post #10099 of 10855
This afternoon Cox Phoenix removed Copy Once protection (CCI = 0x02) from all non-premium channels, now allowing transferring recordings to other TiVos and PC's for those using CableCARDs. Hopefully this will be a permanent change.

All because one person asked to have it removed @ DSLR Forums:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r264...a-cox-employee
post #10100 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

This afternoon Cox Phoenix removed Copy Once protection (CCI = 0x02) from all non-premium channels, now allowing transferring recordings to other TiVos and PC's for those using CableCARDs. Hopefully this will be a permanent change.

All because one person asked to have it removed @ DSLR Forums:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r264...a-cox-employee

Congrats to Rakeesh for hanging in there and making something happen. I ordered my Thrive tablets yesterday, so that will free up my laptops so I can connect one of them to a TV and play with maybe turning it into an HTPC of some sort using a USB tuner or something. I feel so far behind on this technology though.
post #10101 of 10855
Wow!

Great News on CCI.
post #10102 of 10855
Has anyone noticed Multiple Recordings disappearing from their Cox DVR within the last day or so?

Yesterday morning at about 6am a black box with white letters was displayed saying a CableCARD update was about to happen, then both the DVR and the bedroom STB rebooted.

I just noticed about 60% of my recordings are gone, every program that was marked Save Until Space Needed is now gone. I still had ~30% available space, so space was not really an issue. When I received the beta firmware I didn't loose anything.
post #10103 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Has anyone noticed Multiple Recordings disappearing from their Cox DVR within the last day or so?

Yesterday morning at about 6am a black box with white letters was displayed saying a CableCARD update was about to happen, then both the DVR and the bedroom STB rebooted.

I just noticed about 60% of my recordings are gone, every program that was marked Save Until Space Needed is now gone. I still had ~30% available space, so space was not really an issue. When I received the beta firmware I didn't loose anything.

Nothing here, but then I don't have a CC and I don't use the "Save Until Space Is Needed" option either. My 8300HD does show there was a warm boot this morning, but that doesn't make sense because that's about the time I turned it on this morning.

Well, I checked further and Ch 1999 shows a warm boot every time I turn it on, so that's pretty useless data. The last cold boot was back on Aug 28 and that was probably a power outage because I was gone. Sounds like whatever happened only affected you or CC users.
post #10104 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

Has anyone noticed Multiple Recordings disappearing from their Cox DVR within the last day or so?

Yesterday morning at about 6am a black box with white letters was displayed saying a CableCARD update was about to happen, then both the DVR and the bedroom STB rebooted.

I just noticed about 60% of my recordings are gone, every program that was marked Save Until Space Needed is now gone.

I mark all of my programs as "Save Until Manually Erased" and have never had a recorded program disappear.
post #10105 of 10855
The following Cox Plus Package channels have shown up in my Tivo channel listings.
Currently there is no guide data, but all channels are live and tunable but display "This channel is not Authorized"

HD service also required

1101 - Hub HD (Bonus Pak also required) - Live @ 891MHz
1133 - DIY HD (Variety Pak also required) - Live @ 885MHz
1134 - Cooking Channel HD (Variety Pak also required) - Live @ 885MHz
1161 - Outdoor Channel HD (Sports and Info Pak also required) - Live @ 957MHz
1900 - SWRV HD (Variety Pak also required) - Live @ 891MHz

Corresponding Premium subscriptions also required
1202 - HBO Signature HD - Live @ 909MHz
1203 - HBO Family HD - Live @ 927MHz
1204 - HBO Comedy HD - Live @ 933MHz
1205 - HBO Zone HD - Live @ 933MHz
1210 - HBO East HD - Live @ 897MHz
1211 - HBO2 East HD - Live @ 897MHz
1212 - HBO Latino HD - Live @ 903MHz

1222 - Action MAX HD - Live @ 915MHz
1223 - Thriller MAX HD - Live @ 945MHz
1225 - Cinamax East HD - Live @ 903MHz
1226 - More Max East HD - Live @ 915MHz
1230 - 5StarMAX HD - Live @ 945MHz

1242 - Showtime Showcase HD - Live @ 921MHz
1243 - Showtime Extreme HD - Live @ 939MHz
1251 - TMC Xtra HD - Live @ 939MHz

1263 - Starz East HD - Live @ 921MHz
1264 - Starz Kids & Family HD - Live @ 927MHz
1265 - Starz Cinema HD - Live @ 951MHz
1266 - Starz Comedy HD - Live @ 927MHz
post #10106 of 10855
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Originally Posted by Bryan_CoxPHX View Post

This afternoon Cox Phoenix removed Copy Once protection (CCI = 0x02) from all non-premium channels, now allowing transferring recordings to other TiVos and PC's for those using CableCARDs. Hopefully this will be a permanent change.

All because one person asked to have it removed @ DSLR Forums:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r264...a-cox-employee

This is some of the best news I've heard this year! I stumbled upon the CCI removal tonight as I was looking at some of the CableCard recordings I made the past few days with my HDHomeRun Prime. I thought surely it must be a weekend fluke or something and so I came here to see if anyone else noticed and wow!!! I really hope this is permanent. If so, I can get back to automated commercial removal like I used to do with analog capture.
post #10107 of 10855
Any other TiVo people on Cox lose their local broadcast channels (1003-1016) on their Tuning Adapters today?

For some reason mine are missing from the TA's channel map.

The channels come in ok while the TA is booting/blinking, but as soon as the green LED goes steady and the TA channel map takes over, those channels are no longer accessible.

All other channels 1017 and above, including SDV, are coming in fine even with the TA.

I have a first call into Cox done, they just sent a reset, which I had already done through the 800 number.
post #10108 of 10855
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Originally Posted by djwilso View Post

Any other TiVo people on Cox lose their local broadcast channels (1003-1016) on their Tuning Adapters today?

For some reason mine are missing from the TA's channel map.

The channels come in ok while the TA is booting/blinking, but as soon as the green LED goes steady and the TA channel map takes over, those channels are no longer accessible.

All other channels 1017 and above, including SDV, are coming in fine even with the TA.

I have a first call into Cox done, they just sent a reset, which I had already done through the 800 number.

All locals are working for me at this time.

On another note:
I did notice Cox has now blocked the one Plus Package channel I was receiving.

The following channel now displays "This channel is not Authorized"
1133 - DIY HD - transmitting but not tunable @ 885MHz
post #10109 of 10855
Thanks Bryan. I have my locals back finally, but the TiVo went ahead and changed all of the Season Passes for the missing channels to 801 (dhch).

Not happy about that as it will take some time to re-do those.
post #10110 of 10855
Had the same channel issue with my Tivo yesterday as well. Spent 30 minutes yesterday with Cox Tech Support about it....yes, did the reset of both the TA and the Tivo. The problems went away late in the afternoon yesterday.
According to the Cox rep, the TA shouldn't bother with those channels since they are neither encrypted or SDV....somebody may have sent out a old remap file by mistake that screwed things up. Almost had a truckroll to check the TA out, but cancelled it.
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