Originally Posted by ajwees41
I don't think they have to provide clear QAM if they did satellite would have too also wouldn't they?
One of the ways DBS is muddying the waters is that they have added locals "at no extra cost" to their packages. We know that there actually is an "extra cost", but that has been spread over the package cost by raising the package cost to everyone to pay for that. Previously, it was an extra $3 or so for locals.
Before they had the infrastructure for this they handled it by "looking the other way" and selling CONUS surrogates from the east and west coast for the big nets. This was kind of nice because in our time zone you then had 2 or 3 chances in each day to view or record prime time shows rather than just one; it was actually something that drove people to DBS from cable. But those days are gone forever.
Providing locals is in the interest of DBS, so that they can more equitably compete with cable. It's actually kind of "cable-like" in that there is specific infrastructure involved for each served market.
But what sort of makes this a different kind of ball game is that nothing is "clear" on DBS; you need a STB and authorization for any channel, not just locals. And there are no built-in DVB tuners in TVs and recorders that could be seen as the counterpoint to QAM reception in a TV. On the other hand, for a time recordings made OTA to a DBS box were unencrypted while the DBS version was encrypted similarly to the other channels available (and the encryption makes it impossible to make the recordings portable). But this may have had nothing to do with requirements and everything to do with it being a different record path.
As to "copy once" the only show I ever saw with this on DBS was one particular episode of Rescue Me
from 2010, and that was widely believed to be nothing more than a mistake. There have been other reports, but they are few and far between. Of course unless you are trying to make copies on a DVDR from your DVR or DVDR you probably won't run into it anyway; it's pretty unusual for users to want to make a copy of their copy, especially in SD (HD copies are much more difficult thanks to the folks coyoteaz was telling us about).