**Official** Panasonic X54 series TWEAKS & TROUBLESHOOTING Thread - Page 2

Has anyone noticed this with the xbox on the PT-47x54? In the first photo the xbox is set to 16:9. In the second it is set to normal. As you can see when it is set to 16:9 part of the picture is being cut off (most noticeable with the word wins). This isn't so bad that it makes me not want to play or anything it's just kinda annoying and I was wondering if anyone had any ideas.


*Note: Mortal Kombat Deception does not support 16:9. However, I have noticed this in other games that do support 16:9. The word wins was just so bad with a full letter missing that I chose this game.

**Sorry about the kinda crappy pics but it's near impossible to not catch it in motion and it gets dimmer and blocks 75% of the screen when you pause.

Another problem I'm having is that my DVD player is set to progressive and using component connections yet the TV does not recognize it as progressive. This a is major deal to me cause I really wanna be using the HD color matrix and it won't let me. I can switch between SD and HD matrix with the xbox and the HD matrix makes a huge difference. Ideas? My DVD player is a Panny DVD-S35. I plan on getting an upconverting DVD player in the future, but HDTivo is top proriety so that won't be for a couple months and this is bothering me.

With Panasonic DVD players, you often have to set it to progressive in two seperate places in the menus.

Probably check out an Xbox forum. Sounds like a bug with your Xbox and MK. I have noticed anything cutoff on a Hitachi 57S500 with MK and Xbox set for 16x9.

edit: I have NOT noticed anything cutoff on a Hitachi 57S500 with MK and Xbox set for 16x9.

You, my friend, are a savior! There was another stupid setting. Not only do you have to set the dvd player to progressive in the setup but you have to set it to 480p in some "Picture Menu". I never would have found that if you hadn't said something.
Now if only you had this TV and could confirm it was my xbox and not the TV.

Shouldn't the lines be visible at the top and left in this pattern? Like they are on the bottom and right. Could this have to do with my xbox problem?

*Sorry to bloat the page with pics. I will eventually remove them. I just needed them to illustrate my problems.

Edit: I've been messing around with DVE, as you can probably tell, and I can't get the red even close to the way they say it should be with the red filter. The blue I've gotten near perfect, but red I can only get the yellow (I think it was the yellow) boxes anywhere near the right color and green is horrible. Would this be because of red push, and does this mean I'll have to play around with the service menu?

Anybody?

You overscan looks just fine. The DVE pattern is shifted slightly horizontally.

You problem is clearly the Xbox. Otherwise, changing the setting on the Xbox wouldn't change the symptom.

Yes and yes

Hey All,

Great site!! Learning a lot. I just recently purchased a 53x54 and got hooked up with HDTV from Cox Cable in So Cal. Now, the HDTV is incredible, but the regular channels and SD are kinda fuzzy. I know they will be nothing close to the HDTV but I was wondering about one aspect of the Motorola converter box setup.

In the menu it has areas for output and size and what I want the regular 4:3 channels to be.

I set it to 16:9, 1080i for HD and then there are options of 480i or 480p or "off" for the 4:3 channels. What are the differences?

It was set at 480i for the last two weeks and I just switched it to 480p...but I don't know if I see a difference or my mind thinks there is. lol

Any info on what the 53x54 does to the 480i and p setting?

Also, I heard people talk about turning OFF the VM setting. What's the difference of OFF or ON of the VM setting?

Thanks !!

Hey Drew,

My buddy is coming over and has an XBOX and I was wondering if you could give me some tips on how the XBOX runs/looks on your 53x54. Anything I need to do to setup the XBOX on the TV for the best graphics?

Thanks!

For the best PQ make sure 480p is enabled in the Xbox dashboard (and that you are using component connection).

i can get into the service menu ok but i cant find "VPOS, HSIZ and VSIZ" nor can i find the "ST icon"

any help would be greatly appreciated

You will want to use the HD A/V Pack. Once it's connected boot to the plain old MS Dashboard (no disc in tray) and go to video and set your screen to widescreen and the output to 480p, yes, and 1080i, yes,. That's about all you can do on the xbox side. Once you boot up a game you'll want to go into the picture settings on the TV, go to other and make sure color matrix is set to HD.

*In case you don't know, the HD color matrix is only selectable on a 480p input. And on an HD input it won't let you use anything but HD matrix.

I tried to do some service menu adjustment of the color and when I got into the service menu while my DVD player was in progressive mode the only video values it would let me change were I ABL and C_OFF. If I switch to 480i it will let me change all the values again. Aren't you suppose to adjust COLOR, B-Y_G, and R-Y_A? If I can't adjust them while my DVD player is in 480p, which is what I intend to use it in, is there any point in adjusting at all?

Hmmm...that would be quite disappointing if the color decoder cannot be adjusted with 480p and 1080i inputs.

I just picked up the 53X54. The directions for getting into the service menu don't appear to be the same tho I've seen mention in some other threads that it is similar and obviously some people have done it. Soooo anyone who has figured out the exact directions to get into the servive menu on the X54 series Panny sets I'd appreciate you posting them here.

Thanks,
AKH

BTW: Has anyone figured out how to remove the screen at this point?

It's on the first page of this thread. Ignore the first step. Just do it while on the TV input. Once the Check thing comes up you can change inputs before hitting the final button and entering the service menu.

It was this step messing me up:

7) Press VOL (arrow left decrease) on the Panny and you will be in SERVICE MODE.

That means after turning vol down on the remote to THEN directly press the volume decrease button on the TV itself. I wasn't catching on to that.



-AKH

Yeah, that got me too the first time I tried to get into the service menu.

Anyone know how to bring up the geometry settings and other adjustment grids on the X54?.I have a slight downward bend on the bottom right hand corner.I also noticed when I checked out some grids with digital essentials on the right hand side of the TV with a verticle line displayed it would look wavy and not straight at all.Also,setting the fine convergence doesn't do a good job.This is telling me that something else is off that needs to be adjusted before I can adjust the covergence both course and fine.

Don't have an answer to the geometry question, but as a fellow service menu-er have you been able to tame the red push to a point where the color filters are correct as possible on DVE? Especially, to a point where they are correct with DVE in progressive.

Well, that would seem to be the case. Actually, I just got HD so I could see if they can be change in 1080i. Although, I would expect it to be the same case. So, should I still adjust the red push while in interlaced with DVE?

I assume R-Y_A would be red so should I even just hit it down two or three steps?

Does anyone know why when I connect a DVI-D to HDMI cable to my Moto 6208 DVR and this tv it is all snowy and green looking?

*Edit: I'm fairly certain this is the crappy cable I bought. Once I took my cable box out and set it on the floor and made everything perfect and eliminated any noise interference I got crystal clear picture. Not sure if it has to do with shielding or if it's just finicky but the DVR and Panny can work together.

Do people recommend Gefen? I can get a Gefen DVI to HDMI for about half the price of Monster.

Go to "coarse" rather than "fine" in the service menu. This will let you do all the geometry adjustments. And then you'll probably need to go back and do the "Fine" adjustments over again.

Hello all. I recently purchased the PT47x55 HDTV, and love it. Out of the box, it looked great, but found a little blue shadowing in the bottom left corner. After some searching, got into the service menu, and did the fine convergence. It seems like i cannot get the green lines(mostly the outer, or perimeter lines) to be perfectly straight? Are you supposed to keep those outer lines in sight, or do you push them past the screen? Do the convergence grid lines need to be perfectly spaced?

One more thing, If ANYONE could list their service menu settings for this TV, I would be very thankful for your efforts! My stupid ass messed with a few of the settings, mostly the color , tint, cont, bright settings...and of cousre, I can't find where i wrote the original numbers down..sigh...Actually, I could use all of these settings:

color
brigh
B-Y_G
Tint
R-Y_A
cont

If I could get anyone to share what these perameters are, it would be greatly appreciated!

480i default perameters...

Color
00 1D 1f

B-Y_G
00 3a 40

Tint
00 1e 89

R-Y_A
00 3b aa

Contrast
00 19 03 0e

Brightness
00 2b 02 aa

*Edit: While I was getting the values for md95 I discovered that I CAN! adjust video settings in 1080i. I can adjust color, B-Y_G, tint, R-Y_A, brightness, contrast, I-ABL, and C_OFF. I also noticed that the default values are different than 480i.

Color
00 1f 17

B-Y_G
00 3c 46

Tint
00 20 82

R-Y_A
00 3d 87

Contrast
00 1b 02 bd

Brightness
00 2d 02 BC


I set the cable box to upconvert SD to 480p and tried the service menu and it was the same case as when trying to do it with the DVD player. So, at least when I get my upconverting DVD player I can calibrate for 1080i.

Drew: Thank you! I appreciate it. Would you by chance have these also?

cut R
Cut B
B dr
R dr

I believe I can only get those in 480i(P) too...
That should get me back in business... thanks again

Matt

Cut R
00 23 01 f9

Cut B
00 27 01 d9

R dr
00 21 70

B dr
00 22 57