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post #2461 of 6660
Ah, poop!!! My bulb just burned out in my JVC D-ILA RPTV set... Any recommendations to where to pick-up one???
post #2462 of 6660
Has anyone noticed that WTKR football programs exhibit a good deal of pixellation? Seems to have been that way for some time. I've been too busy to post much lately.
post #2463 of 6660
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Originally Posted by robertawillisjr View Post

Has anyone noticed that WTKR football programs exhibit a good deal of pixellation? Seems to have been that way for some time. I've been too busy to post much lately.

To me, it seems to be a little better than in the past...
post #2464 of 6660
The lamp blew out in my 61" JVC RPTV so I connected (component connection) my daughter's new, cheap ($999), 32" Magnavox flat screen (from Circuit City) to the DirecTV H10-250 and was quite surprised with PQ. I definitely would recommend this set. It might not have the best PQ but for a grand I'm very, very satisfied. This set eases the pain since my JVC is out-of-service...
post #2465 of 6660
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

To me, it seems to be a little better than in the past...

I didn't watch any of it today (Yeah Redskins!!!), but I thought it's gotten worse this year. lol
post #2466 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Todd View Post

I didn't watch any of it today (Yeah Redskins!!!), but I thought it's gotten worse this year. lol

Hahaha...
post #2467 of 6660
How months of service did you get before it burned out?

Drew

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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Ah, poop!!! My bulb just burned out in my JVC D-ILA RPTV set... Any recommendations to where to pick-up one???
post #2468 of 6660
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Originally Posted by HILLTOP SAILOR View Post

How months of service did you get before it burned out?

Drew

Well... More like how many hours. It was 15 months BUT the set is ALWAYS on. During the week from about 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. and weekends a bit less.

The TV was even warning me to get a replacement lamp for the past four weeks, so the life of the lamp and the timer in the TV were pretty close. Shame on me for not getting a spare. I'm getting one overnighted (through Best Buy's replacement parts website partner) but it probably won't be processed until tomorrow, probably be sent out on Wednesday to arrive here sometime on Thursday. Not sure if local shops are open today, if so will try them. If I can get my hands on one today, I'll pick it up and keep the shipped one as a spare... I'll have it just incase... LOL...

Having a replacement lamp as a spare is something REALLY to consider having. TV isn't that important BUT I'm "stuck" watching some big bowl games on a 32" HDTV instead of a 61". I should have a new lamp by the 4th...
post #2469 of 6660
Hope you're all set for the BCS on the forth. Hook 'em Horns! ( I can't believe I just wrote that ... I'm an OU Sooner!)

Drew

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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Well... More like how many hours. It was 15 months BUT the set is ALWAYS on. During the week from about 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. and weekends a bit less.

The TV was even warning me to get a replacement lamp for the past four weeks, so the life of the lamp and the timer in the TV were pretty close. Shame on me for not getting a spare. I'm getting one overnighted (through Best Buy's replacement parts website partner) but it probably won't be processed until tomorrow, probably be sent out on Wednesday to arrive here sometime on Thursday. Not sure if local shops are open today, if so will try them. If I can get my hands on one today, I'll pick it up and keep the shipped one as a spare... I'll have it just incase... LOL...

Having a replacement lamp as a spare is something REALLY to consider having. TV isn't that important BUT I'm "stuck" watching some big bowl games on a 32" HDTV instead of a 61". I should have a new lamp by the 4th...
post #2470 of 6660
Hey guys, hoping to get some input from you Virginia locals, and also this isn't the wrong forum to be posting to

Grew up in Virginia, and just got my parents a KD-36XS955 for Christmas. After looking over the Cox lineup the whole digital cable just to get HDTV stuff appears to be a big rip off. No (almost) locals, etc. and the only sat (directv) option with the major OTA broadcasters is all out of state HD so that means (gasp from Father) no Redskins.

I did experiment while I was in town with a $9 rabbit ear / UHF loop special (all HD in HR is UHF) and could pick up NBC/ABC but not good enough to watch. I forget which, but one was very sporadic (picture out more than in) and one was half and half. CBS (and if I remember correctly PBS) came in great-ish (note the ish) but hey they get that for free from the QAM tuner. I think the TV actually found some of the others (PAX, i, ?)

This is from Hampton.

So all the stations are within a 10° arc, and about 15-16 miles away. Appears from there location they need to be pointing towards a midpoint between the JR Bridge and the MM bridge/tunnel.

I am debating to try a Silver Sensor before going all out and popping for a Winegard PR-9032 or Antennas Direct SR15 and associated materials (a J-mount from antennas direct, RG6 cable) with an eye towards a uni-directional given the narrow angle towards all the transmitters.

The SS is around $26 including shipping, and the outdoor antenna solution would be around $100 plus (free) labor. Actually if I include a lightning arrestor, the possibility of needing a mast mounted amplifier for the cable run signal loss, etc. the cost could easily hit $175

So the question is, do I try the SS first and then go for the outdoor, or do I just go outdoor? My parents could just about care less for the prime time stuff - Redskins is probably about it.

W
post #2471 of 6660
HDTV OTA is like the FRAM Oil Filter commercial: Pay me now or pay me later. You need a good antenna. Going cheap in the beginning only delays the inevitable.

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Originally Posted by wizzy420 View Post

Hey guys, hoping to get some input from you Virginia locals, and also this isn't the wrong forum to be posting to

Grew up in Virginia, and just got my parents a KD-36XS955 for Christmas. After looking over the Cox lineup the whole digital cable just to get HDTV stuff appears to be a big rip off. No (almost) locals, etc. and the only sat (directv) option with the major OTA broadcasters is all out of state HD so that means (gasp from Father) no Redskins.

I did experiment while I was in town with a $9 rabbit ear / UHF loop special (all HD in HR is UHF) and could pick up NBC/ABC but not good enough to watch. I forget which, but one was very sporadic (picture out more than in) and one was half and half. CBS (and if I remember correctly PBS) came in great-ish (note the ish) but hey they get that for free from the QAM tuner. I think the TV actually found some of the others (PAX, i, ?)

This is from Hampton.

So all the stations are within a 10° arc, and about 15-16 miles away. Appears from there location they need to be pointing towards a midpoint between the JR Bridge and the MM bridge/tunnel.

I am debating to try a Silver Sensor before going all out and popping for a Winegard PR-9032 or Antennas Direct SR15 and associated materials (a J-mount from antennas direct, RG6 cable) with an eye towards a uni-directional given the narrow angle towards all the transmitters.

The SS is around $26 including shipping, and the outdoor antenna solution would be around $100 plus (free) labor. Actually if I include a lightning arrestor, the possibility of needing a mast mounted amplifier for the cable run signal loss, etc. the cost could easily hit $175

So the question is, do I try the SS first and then go for the outdoor, or do I just go outdoor? My parents could just about care less for the prime time stuff - Redskins is probably about it.

W
post #2472 of 6660
Geez...why did the Gator Bowl have to be on NBC?? They of course couldn't bother doing it in HD. I guess that's reserved for Notre Dame...

Of course I blame VT too since they should have won against FSU!
post #2473 of 6660
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Originally Posted by HILLTOP SAILOR View Post

HDTV OTA is like the FRAM Oil Filter commercial: Pay me now or pay me later. You need a good antenna. Going cheap in the beginning only delays the inevitable.

No complaints about my ChannelMaster 4228...
post #2474 of 6660
My wife just bought me a new Sony 34in HDTV-ready set for Christmas. We are interested in getting the best possible reception from the local Hampton Roads OTA HD channels but cannot put up an aerial antenna. We would like to install an in-attic antenna. We live in the Pembroke area of VA Beach. What's the best antenna/receiver combo recommendation for our area?
post #2475 of 6660
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Originally Posted by N2DVD View Post

My wife just bought me a new Sony 34in HDTV-ready set for Christmas. We are interested in getting the best possible reception from the local Hampton Roads OTA HD channels but cannot put up an aerial antenna. We would like to install an in-attic antenna. We live in the Pembroke area of VA Beach. What's the best antenna/receiver combo recommendation for our area?

Have you started by going to antennaweb.org to determine where, how far, and in what direction the OTA HD broadcast towers are from you?

W
post #2476 of 6660
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Originally Posted by wizzy420 View Post

Have you started by going to antennaweb to determine where, how far, and in what direction the OTA HD broadcast towers are from you?

W

Just did. All eight of the local OTA HD signals hit me between 269 and 272 degrees, between 18.8 and 23.1 miles from my location. I have a clear shot in that direction from the rear of my townhouse.
post #2477 of 6660
Call DOMES and have them install one professionally. You won't be sorry you did.

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Originally Posted by N2DVD View Post

Just did. All eight of the local OTA HD signals hit me between 269 and 272 degrees, between 18.8 and 23.1 miles from my location. I have a clear shot in that direction from the rear of my townhouse.
post #2478 of 6660
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Originally Posted by HILLTOP SAILOR View Post

Call DOMES and have them install one professionally. You won't be sorry you did.

Would suggest doing a little research first. Go to antennasdirect.com, warrenelectronics.com, etc. and do some research. How much will an antenna, mounting hardware, cable, etc. cost.

Installing an antenna is not rocket science, people have been doing it for years. If you are somewhat handy (i.e you can figure out how to research and learn a little, accomplish things like changing a faucet, running a phone line, etc.) you could probably do this.

Not to say that their experience and the time saved is not worth it, but you will at least know what kind of markup they are really charging. I think earlier in this thread someone said they charged $100 for a $59 retail Channelmaster antenna.

Good to know how much the "free" install, or the "$30/hour one hour" is *really* costing you, and then do the math on if it is worth your while.

You aren't that far out, it shouldn't take 30 years of antenna experience to get something that picks up UHF channels at 22 miles out

W
post #2479 of 6660
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Originally Posted by N2DVD View Post

Just did. All eight of the local OTA HD signals hit me between 269 and 272 degrees, between 18.8 and 23.1 miles from my location. I have a clear shot in that direction from the rear of my townhouse.

Hmm, a clear shot. Second floor? No trees anything?

Not sure what your mounting location is like (roof access? outside deck?)

I was thinking if you have a deck maybe a little DB2 from Antennas Direct would do the trick, and could be mounted very inconspicously.

W
post #2480 of 6660
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Originally Posted by wizzy420 View Post

Not to say that their experience and the time saved is not worth it, but you will at least know what kind of markup they are really charging. I think earlier in this thread someone said they charged $100 for a $59 retail Channelmaster antenna.

Good to know how much the "free" install, or the "$30/hour one hour" is *really* costing you, and then do the math on if it is worth your while.

W

They charge a lot more than $30 an hour. They charge more for antenna installs per hour than I charge for high-end network consulting. Something's not right here...
post #2481 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Todd View Post

They charge a lot more than $30 an hour. They charge more for antenna installs per hour than I charge for high-end network consulting. Something's not right here...

Yeah, but you probably won't fall off a roof doing high-end network consulting
post #2482 of 6660
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Originally Posted by N2DVD View Post

Just did. All eight of the local OTA HD signals hit me between 269 and 272 degrees, between 18.8 and 23.1 miles from my location. I have a clear shot in that direction from the rear of my townhouse.

You should just pick up the cheapest medium directional UHF you can find. I'm using a $24 RatShack yagi from Shore Drive but I think RS got out of the antenna business. I heard you can get the CM 4228 and the accessories (mast, brackets etc) you'll need at Cain. Oh yeah, get a compass too.
post #2483 of 6660
If your thinking of an antenna take a look at this web site.

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

input your address and you can drill down to a map of your street showing the best direction to set up your antenna.

BTW, Cox carries CBSHD and PBSHD, 13 is UHF 41, 10 is UHF 31, FOX is UHF 29.
post #2484 of 6660
Speaking of a compass, how does one compensate between the azimuth given on antennaweb.org with magnetic north given by the compass?

W
post #2485 of 6660
Ah, consult a map. According to the map located at the bottom of the page here:

http://geology.isu.edu/geostac/Field...ps/mag_dec.htm

When looking at a compass, the compass north will be approximately 10.5° west of true north, so I am guessing this means we need to subtract 10.5 from the azimuth -- if the towers are all between 197° and 207° and we wanted to point straight between the two we should point the antenna towards:

( ( 197 + 207 ) / 2 ) - 10.5 = 191.5° on the compass

Does this sound about right?

W
post #2486 of 6660
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

At 8:50 pm on Saturday, New Years Eve, the center channel audio was lost on channel 13-1 while Snow Dogs was running.
I am posting this now, hoping that Peter will see it and fix it before the New York New Years Eve festivities get under way from ABC.

Sorry Steve, the LAST thing I'm going to do on New Year's Eve is sit home and check this forum thread for problems at work. Talk about a busman's holiday!

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Originally Posted by obxdiver View Post

Well so far what I have seen here with my HR10-250, anything from ABC comes in as 5.1. When the audio was lost at 8:50pm, ABC went to a commercial break, and when it returned to the movie, the center cannel audio was lost and my processor only showed DD 2.0. I had sound effects, but no dialog.
I just called the station at 628-6200 and they already fixed it.
They were right on it.

Please DO NOT call 628-6200: It is the line to the News department's Assignment Desk. I have strict orders for calls that come into that line not to be transferred to Master Control. The Master Control Operators are not engineering types and, in most cases, do not have enough technical knowledge to manipulate complex technical systems. Also, calls distract their attention from executing programming which can effect a much larger audience.

WVEC will be installing a new digital downlink system for ABC programming - SD & HD - later this month. I am hoping this will take care of some of the nuisance problems that have effected programming for the past four or five months.
post #2487 of 6660
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Originally Posted by pdennant View Post

Sorry Steve, the LAST thing I'm going to do on New Year's Eve is sit home and check this forum thread for problems at work. Talk about a busman's holiday!



Please DO NOT call 628-6200: It is the line to the News department's Assignment Desk. I have strict orders for calls that come into that line not to be transferred to Master Control. The Master Control Operators are not engineering types and, in most cases, do not have enough technical knowledge to manipulate complex technical systems. Also, calls distract their attention from executing programming which can effect a much larger audience.

WVEC will be installing a new digital downlink system for ABC programming - SD & HD - later this month. I am hoping this will take care of some of the nuisance problems that have effected programming for the past four or five months.

Why does Cox carry HD CBS and PBS but not NBC, FOX and ABC?
post #2488 of 6660
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Originally Posted by lastplace View Post

Why does Cox carry HD CBS and PBS but not NBC, FOX and ABC?

Because NBC, FOX, and ABC refuse to give them the feed for free - and COX refuses to pay for it.

All bets are we will have to wait until 2009 until the new rules take.

Not sure what the deal is with CBS/COX

If you want to help -- get an antenna up, sign up for D*, and call Cox to cancel and let them know you are switching to Sat because they don't carry the major networks HDTV feeds

W
post #2489 of 6660
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by wizzy420 View Post

Because NBC, FOX, and ABC refuse to give them the feed for free - and COX refuses to pay for it.

Don't forget the WB (WTVZ) and UPN (WGNT).

Here is my standard, truthful answer for viewers who write in with this question:

"This is a complex question that involves two large telecommunications corporations doing business in multiple markets. Having said that, the short story is: Cox's parent company, Cox Enterprises (Atlanta, GA) and WVEC's parent company, Belo (Dallas, TX), have not concluded negotiations that would allow Belo's DTV stations in Norfolk, New Orleans and Phoenix to be carried by the Cox systems in those markets. The local companies in each market have no power to come to a local agreement as all of these negotiations are handled at the corporate level."

As wizzy explained, compensation is a part of it. Other points of contention include carriage of minor channels (13.2 in WVEC's case), data services and programming guide information. HD is becoming more and more important as the gear drops in price, more programming becomes available and the percentage of viewers with HD gear increases. I expect to see more movement by both companies later in the year.
post #2490 of 6660
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Originally Posted by wizzy420 View Post

Speaking of a compass, how does one compensate between the azimuth given on antennaweb.org with magnetic north given by the compass?

W

Antennaweb.org gives the heading for magnetic north and not True north. There is no correction factor for magnetic declination. Point your compass and aim. Just make sure you are not standing next to your heat pump, metal shed or other mechanical/metallic device.
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