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post #6181 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

I've heard of people using DTVPal CECBs to feed TVGOS to analog-only devices. Again, I have no TVGOS devices so I don't know, but might that be something to look into?

- Trip

FWIW, my Mits LCD does have the ability to download and display TVGOS-OTA, but when I access the guide it doesn't indicate that the service is TVGOS. It's called "ChannelView". The guide info for most of the local stations is there but without fancy graphics and with dot-matrix-like text.
post #6182 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Digitude View Post

I guess that is why I also lost my time hack. My DVR used to automatically reset the time of day after a power flop or reboot. I had to set it manually today for the first time ever.


WTVZ Analog used to carry the program guide information in the vertical interval. Since we no longer transmit an analog signal, there is no vertical interval, and the encoder is on its way back to the guide provider.

I understand that a replacement system for this service is being thought out, but for the present, I know of no over the air program guide which lists all channels.

Now I hope that the FMs keep transmitting in Analog for a while so that my digital clock can reset itself!!
post #6183 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Bill Barber View Post

WTVZ Analog used to carry the program guide information in the vertical interval. Since we no longer transmit an analog signal, there is no vertical interval, and the encoder is on its way back to the guide provider.

I understand that a replacement system for this service is being thought out, but for the present, I know of no over the air program guide which lists all channels.

Now I hope that the FMs keep transmitting in Analog for a while so that my digital clock can reset itself!!

Do you think my on-screen OTA channel guide is being created using PSIP data? It contains program listings and descriptions for all local DT channels except WSKY-DT.
post #6184 of 6660
WAVY-DT has been dead for a few hours tonight. checked in to see the speech, but no signal. i wonder what's going on.?
post #6185 of 6660
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Originally Posted by MeeZ01 View Post

WAVY-DT has been dead for a few hours tonight. checked in to see the speech, but no signal. i wonder what's going on.?

It was coming in fine here in Sono, I thought the PQ on WAVY was the best of the lot but I watched most of the speach on WHRO because it was the only channel without graphics on the screen, only their translucent logo in the upper left.
post #6186 of 6660
WTKR i having some center channel issues tonight on The Big Bang Theory...
post #6187 of 6660
Now that 33 analog is gone, does anyone know when WTVZ will move to 33 digital?
post #6188 of 6660
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Originally Posted by brownover View Post

Now that 33 analog is gone, does anyone know when WTVZ will move to 33 digital?

Guessing June 12...
post #6189 of 6660
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Originally Posted by brownover View Post

Now that 33 analog is gone, does anyone know when WTVZ will move to 33 digital?

Check the two entries from WTVZ-DT Engineer Bill Barber dated 2-10-09 on this thread, and you will get the answer to your question (unless something has changed per their FCC request to change before June 12).
post #6190 of 6660
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Originally Posted by TByronT View Post

Check the two entries from WTVZ-DT Engineer Bill Barber dated 2-10-09 on this thread, and you will get the answer to your question (unless something has changed per their FCC request to change before June 12).

Thanks!
post #6191 of 6660
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Guessing June 12...

Bob, June 12 is the latest date possible. We did apply for an STA (Special Temporary Authorization) to revert to 33 at higher power, more antenna height and a better pattern, and are waiting for permission. We just completed some off line maintenance on the Ch33 transmitter this morning, and will make the final small changes for digital operation on 33 early next week (we're committed to the ACC tournament for the remaiunder of this week), but we can't actually put 33 on the air until we receive the STA.

So it might be June 12, but we're hoping to switch earlier - it's all up to those in charge of the process at the Federal level. wb
post #6192 of 6660
Tonight started to watch FOX 43DT show called "Lie to Me". It started with no audio for several minutes then audio came on but video is not HD. It does appear as a 16x9 format but it apears within a 4x3 aspect ratio and does not give a full 16x9 screen presentation. Audio does is 5.1 but image is not full screen.

Earl
post #6193 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Earl Dunham View Post

Tonight started to watch FOX 43DT show called "Lie to Me". It started with no audio for several minutes then audio came on but video is not HD. It does appear as a 16x9 format but it apears within a 4x3 aspect ratio and does not give a full 16x9 screen presentation. Audio does is 5.1 but image is not full screen.

Earl

I guess I have to watch via the computer...
post #6194 of 6660
one of the bad things about OTA DTV is the all or nothing logic of the signal.

strong winds this past weekend have made DTV useless. constant stuttering and broken signals. luckily, some analog stations are still up and i hooked that up to get a strong picture with sound, no drop outs. so, i was able to watch tiger woods win it all.
post #6195 of 6660
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Originally Posted by MeeZ01 View Post

one of the bad things about OTA DTV is the all or nothing logic of the signal.

strong winds this past weekend have made DTV useless. constant stuttering and broken signals. luckily, some analog stations are still up and i hooked that up to get a strong picture with sound, no drop outs. so, i was able to watch tiger woods win it all.

OTA was great for me all weekend, worked perfectly off an indoor antenna. On the other hand, I was constantly fiddling with my Free To Air satellite dish because some of my wife's Thai channels kept going out.
post #6196 of 6660
Ive been using OTA for years only 20 something miles from the towers. Medium outdoor Yagi on a rotor with yes an adjustable amp. It takes just the right amount of power and tweaking it seems as the seasons change and yes weather affects OTA. I live in multipath hell apparently in a forest of aluminum siding. I love the picture but I would agree its a ridiculously complicated and finicky technology. Is the VHF range the solution to the flakey behavior? Is UHF the problem?
post #6197 of 6660
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Originally Posted by vurbano View Post

Ive been using OTA for years only 20 something miles from the towers. Medium outdoor Yagi on a rotor with yes an adjustable amp. It takes just the right amount of power and tweaking it seems as the seasons change and yes weather affects OTA. I live in multipath hell apparently in a forest of aluminum siding. I love the picture but I would agree its a ridiculously complicated and finicky technology. Is the VHF range the solution to the flakey behavior? Is UHF the problem?

FWIW, I live 35 miles from the towers, use a VHF/UHF fringe antenna with preamp mounted in my attic and seldom have any problem with UHF OTA DT reception. That is, at least since Dish fixed the problems I was having with WAVY-DT. Multipath on VHF hi-band analog is terrible due to a nearby water tower. I hope WVEC is not affected when it finally moves to ch.13.
post #6198 of 6660
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Originally Posted by barrysb View Post

FWIW, I live 35 miles from the towers, use a VHF/UHF fringe antenna with preamp mounted in my attic and seldom have any problem with UHF OTA DT reception. That is, at least since Dish fixed the problems I was having with WAVY-DT. Multipath on VHF hi-band analog is terrible due to a nearby water tower. I hope WVEC is not affected when it finally moves to ch.13.

It'll be interesting to see what happens in June... Been enjoying OTA for over 4½ years. I do have issues picking up WSKY-DT/4...
post #6199 of 6660
FWIW I do not record or watch off of the antenna anymore and only use it during storms when D* has problems.
post #6200 of 6660
If you haven't caught the on-air announcements ... WTVZ will revert to Channel 33 at 12:01 A.M. on Tuesday, 4-28. I expect that many of our viewers, particularly those to the South and Southwest of the Driver Va towers, will see improved reception (and in some cases, will be able to receive the digital signal for the first time!).
post #6201 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Bill Barber View Post

If you haven't caught the on-air announcements ... WTVZ will revert to Channel 33 at 12:01 A.M. on Tuesday, 4-28...

Bill... How is DirecTV handling this. Their STBs don't "scan" for OTA...
post #6202 of 6660
I send notice to all of the subscription providers, and they must re-adjust their receivers. The comsumer shouldn't see anything other than a brief interruption when the provider resets. wb
post #6203 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Bill Barber View Post

I send notice to all of the subscription providers, and they must re-adjust their receivers. The comsumer shouldn't see anything other than a brief interruption when the provider resets. wb

Bill, will there be a short period when both transmitters are broadcasting simultaneously?
post #6204 of 6660
Not unless I make a mistake.
post #6205 of 6660
Thanks for the post Bill. I very seldom see your digital signal now so I would not have seen the announcement. Looking forward to seeing 33 again.
post #6206 of 6660
If you are receiving the WTVZ digital signal at all now - even intermittently, this change might make a sustantial difference since the Ch38 signal is marginal in your general direction. Additionally, the Ch33 antenna is a little more elevated than the Ch38 antenna, and the power will increase a bit. Please do let me know if this change improves your reception. My email: bbarber@sbgnet.com.
post #6207 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Bill Barber View Post

I send notice to all of the subscription providers, and they must re-adjust their receivers. The comsumer shouldn't see anything other than a brief interruption when the provider resets. wb

What about us up in Mathews? NE of you.
post #6208 of 6660
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Originally Posted by hjriver View Post

What about us up in Mathews? NE of you.

I know that the Comcast cable system in Matthews has been usig our digital signal for months now, but elevation might be an issue.

I can tell you that our antenna height increases by about 65' with the changeover, and our overall Effective radiated power increases from 590 kW to 960 kW, but the effect of the differing vertical pattern would have the greatest effect.

I will be very interested to hear who sees an improved signal, and would appreciate your comments either here or at my email bbarber@sbgnet.com.

By the way, I have been assuming that everyone on this forum knows that you will need to either re-scan your receiver on the morning of the 28th or manually add Ch33 (re-scanning is a lot easier) in order to receive WTVZ.
post #6209 of 6660
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Originally Posted by Bill Barber View Post

I know that the Comcast cable system in Matthews has been usig our digital signal for months now, but elevation might be an issue.

I can tell you that our antenna height increases by about 65' with the changeover, and our overall Effective radiated power increases from 590 kW to 960 kW, but the effect of the differing vertical pattern would have the greatest effect.

I will be very interested to hear who sees an improved signal, and would appreciate your comments either here or at my email bbarber@sbgnet.com.

By the way, I have been assuming that everyone on this forum knows that you will need to either re-scan your receiver on the morning of the 28th or manually add Ch33 (re-scanning is a lot easier) in order to receive WTVZ.

Thanks Bill. I'm not on Comcast Cable. Too far away from their line. I use OTA and Directv.
post #6210 of 6660
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Originally Posted by hjriver View Post

Thanks Bill. I'm not on Comcast Cable. Too far away from their line. I use OTA and Directv.

Understand. Comcast was just a point of reference - I know that our signal makes it to their head end, but I don't know what your elevation is. That is usually the determining factor in receiving a UHF signal - if it's not too far over the nap of the earth, you have a chance of receiving it. Please do let me know how you make out on the 28th. wb
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