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post #11701 of 11755
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post

Is it JUST the hockey games or is it a full-time issue?

I haven't checked in a while. Last time I did, DirecTV showed 5.1, but almost nothing was coming from the rear speakers. Everything else was fine. But I haven't watched hockey with the sound up, lately. We're generally watching something else on the main screen and have the game showing on one of the others.

I just checked it again. It seems to be full (or most) time on FSD HD and FSD+ HD. The SD channels work fine.
post #11702 of 11755
Ok, just pulled up FSD via BHN and DirecTV. BOTH show 5.1 on my receiver but there's only 2.0 audio. Nothing through the center or rear speakers. Hope that helps.
post #11703 of 11755

I ran some tests on my channel 32 reception problem -

 

Currently both HD HomeRun GUI and TsReader Lite indicate a "Service Name" of "TEST002 " for ch.32.  Previously it was TVO as one would expect.  Also, both programs show it mapping to virtual channel 10.2.

 

They must have been doing some testing and forgot to restore the correct PSIP for the Windsor outlet.

 

I let WMC do a rescan using the HomeRun tuner and I can now watch TVO Windsor on channel 10.2!

 

Dave

 

P.S. - Just got a call from a TVO engineer - they replaced the PSIP generator in Windsor last week and screwed things up.  They hope to have it fixed tomorrow.


Edited by Northville Dave - 1/20/14 at 12:59pm
post #11704 of 11755
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Originally Posted by Northville Dave View Post

P.S. - Just got a call from a TVO engineer - they replaced the PSIP generator in Windsor last week and screwed things up.  They hope to have it fixed tomorrow.
Bet they just LOVE you biggrin.gif
post #11705 of 11755
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post


Bet they just LOVE you biggrin.gif


Actually, they asked if I minded if they called me back "tomorrow"  (i.e., today) to verify that it was fixed.  They did and it is!  :)

 

Turns out most TV's didn't even notice the screwed up PSIP info, and worked fine unless a rescan was done. 

post #11706 of 11755
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Originally Posted by Northville Dave View Post


Actually, they asked if I minded if they called me back "tomorrow"  (i.e., today) to verify that it was fixed.  They did and it is!  smile.gif

Turns out most TV's didn't even notice the screwed up PSIP info, and worked fine unless a rescan was done. 
Yeah, the picky equipment is often the older stuff. WDIV used to borrow my T-151 because they knew if IT worked, then everything was right. In fact, it might still be there, now that I think about it.
post #11707 of 11755
They're doing it again, tonight. WDIV is pre-empting "The Michael J. Fox Show" for something called "Minds of Medicine." Infomercial, I think. Michael J Fox shifts to WADL-38.1.
post #11708 of 11755
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Originally Posted by Northville Dave View Post

I ran some tests on my channel 32 reception problem -

Currently both HD HomeRun GUI and TsReader Lite indicate a "Service Name" of "TEST002 " for ch.32.  Previously it was TVO as one would expect.  Also, both programs show it mapping to virtual channel 10.2.

They must have been doing some testing and forgot to restore the correct PSIP for the Windsor outlet.

I let WMC do a rescan using the HomeRun tuner and I can now watch TVO Windsor on channel 10.2!

Dave

P.S. - Just got a call from a TVO engineer - they replaced the PSIP generator in Windsor last week and screwed things up.  They hope to have it fixed tomorrow.

Figure this one out:
During the time CICO32's signal was PSIPed to "10-2 TEST002" on my Panasonic TV, a relative's Insignia NSDXA1 converter box showed them as "32-1 TVO"
Rescans were done on each, and both retained their differing PSIP displays.
post #11709 of 11755
Dr don,
Any idea where 1310 is broadcasting from now, it's simulcasting 106.7
post #11710 of 11755
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

Dr don,
Any idea where 1310 is broadcasting from now, it's simulcasting 106.7

According to their FCC file, it's the same place in Taylor as before, only on a temporary antenna since the old array was dismantled and at a whopping 900 watts.
post #11711 of 11755
I get it in Livonia clear in daytime
Will check tonight

I wonder what tower they are using

900 watts is more than or just barely less than:
560/580/1090/1400/1340/1440
post #11712 of 11755
Yeah, but 900 watts at 560 goes a helluva lot further than 900 at 1310. Tempted to drive down and see what kind of temp antenna they're using. It's not making its way up here at night.
post #11713 of 11755
You won't hear WDTW (AM 1310) at night. Though the rules of an STA allow the station to operate omnidirectional unlimited time at up to one-quarter of the licensed daytime power (in WDTW's case, 1,250 watts), WDTW is operating as a daytimer, as their owner also has a station on 1310 in another market, one that is still selling advertising, and to operate WDTW 900 watts omni at night would cause interference to that station.

Note that there is no such thing as a fulltime station license - there is daytime, limited time, and unlimited time. An unlimited time operation is under no obligation to actually operate at night (or, for that matter, during the day). WJR would be free to limit its operation to a few hours every night between midnight and sunrise, until they run out of money.

WDTW is transmitting from their I-94/Monroe Blvd site, with a crank-up tower close to the transmitter shack (possibly from the base of what was the northeast tower in their six-tower array). There is a vertical dipole near the top of the tower (I suspect to pick up WDTW FM 106.7 OTA). The STA in the FCC CDBS file states they are using a 55° vertical radiator, implying the tower is about 115' tall.
Edited by itsthemultipath! - 1/26/14 at 1:50am
post #11714 of 11755
Thanks for the info!!!!!
And Don, 1310 is lower in the dial than 3 of the stations I listed, I could have also added 1290
post #11715 of 11755
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Originally Posted by itsthemultipath! View Post

You won't hear WDTW (AM 1310) at night. Though the rules of an STA allow the station to operate omnidirectional unlimited time at up to one-quarter of the licensed daytime power (in WDTW's case, 1,250 watts), WDTW is operating as a daytimer, as their owner also has a station on 1310 in another market, one that is still selling advertising, and to operate WDTW 900 watts omni at night would cause interference to that station.

Note that there is no such thing as a fulltime station license - there is daytime, limited time, and unlimited time. An unlimited time operation is under no obligation to actually operate at night (or, for that matter, during the day). WJR would be free to limit its operation to a few hours every night between midnight and sunrise, until they run out of money.

WDTW is transmitting from their I-94/Monroe Blvd site, with a crank-up tower close to the transmitter shack (possibly from the base of what was the northeast tower in their six-tower array). There is a vertical dipole near the top of the tower (I suspect to pick up WDTW FM 106.7 OTA). The STA in the FCC CDBS file states they are using a 55° vertical radiator, implying the tower is about 115' tall.


Itsthemultipath,
are you "Arthur Mometer" on the MI Buzzboard?

I am trying to register for that board, but no one will approve my registration

frown.gif
post #11716 of 11755
I'd also question the bit about WJR being able to operate for just a few hours overnight. Now, I'm probably wrong, but I thought EAS "primary" stations had to remain up at all times. Though I guess they could voluntarily give up that designation.

I've worked for two Primary stations.. one of which got a full underground studio and transmitter facility with enough diesel capacity to keep the 5K AM and 50K FM on the air 24/7 for three weeks. All paid for by the government. Never visited the transmitter site for the other one, but I heard it was pretty elaborate and partially taxpayer-funded, too.
post #11717 of 11755
Might lose the liscense for "not serving the community" is only operating midnight-5am
post #11718 of 11755
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Originally Posted by billmich View Post

Itsthemultipath,
are you "Arthur Mometer" on the MI Buzzboard?

I am trying to register for that board, but no one will approve my registration

frown.gif

Sorry, I have never used a screen name anything like that.

P.S.: I just took a look at the MI Buzzboard. I can certainly see why you thought I was Arthur. His comments are uncannily similar, right down to rounding the estimated height of the tower to 115'. Of course, much of the "coincidence" comes from the fact that we both cited the FCC document.

One thing of note: I'm not a good judge of the height of towers at all, but when seeing the temporary tower, I would have guessed the height to be less than 115', hence my use of the word "implies".
Edited by itsthemultipath! - 1/26/14 at 1:22pm
post #11719 of 11755
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post

I'd also question the bit about WJR being able to operate for just a few hours overnight. Now, I'm probably wrong, but I thought EAS "primary" stations had to remain up at all times. Though I guess they could voluntarily give up that designation.

I've worked for two Primary stations.. one of which got a full underground studio and transmitter facility with enough diesel capacity to keep the 5K AM and 50K FM on the air 24/7 for three weeks. All paid for by the government. Never visited the transmitter site for the other one, but I heard it was pretty elaborate and partially taxpayer-funded, too.


Good call, Doctor, I believe you are right. I guess I chose the wrong example of an unlimited time station, as the whole EAS program was not in my mind at the time.

I don't know how many hours an AM station needs to operate, it is buried in the rules, but I do know it is a very small fraction of the 168 hours per week most unlimited time stations actually operate. If I recall correctly, it is stated not in hours per day, but in hours per week or per month.

The current requirements are probably unchanged since the 1920's, when some stations basically did farm reports in the mornings and carried some entertainment in the evenings, being off-the-air more than half the time.
post #11720 of 11755
I'm awaiting the approval of my profile on that board, any PM's You can send to the moderator to assist is appreciated
post #11721 of 11755
I've got a static picture on CBC-9 via OTA and BHN. Did they lose the feed or do I need to adjust my antenna?
post #11722 of 11755
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post

I've got a static picture on CBC-9 via OTA and BHN. Did they lose the feed or do I need to adjust my antenna?

At the time I'm posting this, it's back for OTA.
post #11723 of 11755
Ditto here. Thanks for checking. I've been getting signal drops all weekend.
post #11724 of 11755
Does anyone happen to known the general location of the CBC-9 broadcast antenna? Trying to figure out the general direction from Ann Arbor...
Thanks.
post #11725 of 11755
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Originally Posted by tollonodre View Post

Does anyone happen to known the general location of the CBC-9 broadcast antenna? Trying to figure out the general direction from Ann Arbor...
Thanks.

This should do it:

http://www.michiguide.com/dials/tv/cbet.html

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=McGregor,+ON&hl=en&ll=42.153478,-82.952989&spn=0.005679,0.013078&sll=42.397249,-83.37416&sspn=0.181027,0.41851&t=h&hnear=McGregor,+Essex,+Essex+County,+Ontario,+Canada&z=17
post #11726 of 11755
post #11727 of 11755
In the wee hours of this morning, Bright House upgraded the guide in those STBs and DVRs running Navigator in the Michigan market. It's now a full, honest-to-goodness 16:9 and has a bunch of other improvements, the most notable is a new VOD channel 1000.

BHN tech support has created a thread in their support forum in case anyone has issues.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r29065996-TV-Detroit-Digital-Navigator-Update-Q-A-and-Feedback-Thread



post #11728 of 11755
Anyone in the Ann Arbor/Metro Detroit area with Comcast able to shed some light on why my HD channels are so poor and compressed?

I'm getting a crazy blocky/pixelated picture and the HD simply looks like a widescreen version of SD.

The strange thing is, on-demand programs/movies look great, but the regular HD channels themselves are coming in terribly. Also I've noticed, if it's a still image, the picture is fine, but as soon as it's a moving frame it pixelates and macroblocks.

I've already had a technician come out who said the signal is fine and told me to turn brightness and contrast completely down. Great help he was. Can someone give me some info on what's going on as this simply does not look HD....
post #11729 of 11755
My mother used to live near downtown Ann Arbor and experienced pretty bad macro-blocking. But it was always during dinner hours - like from 6-8PM. I just chalked it up to bandwidth issues on a crappy network. But that was several years ago.
post #11730 of 11755
Well, THIS is amusing.

My Moto DCX3200M BHN box got the new guide software and everything worked ..until the time change.

The clock and the guide all have the correct time, but all of the "timers" I'd set are all off by an hour, now. I'd had it set to change to AMC at 8:55 every Sunday night so the HTPC can record "The Walking Dead." It didn't change until 9:55. Guess I gotta go put all those in again, now.
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