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It has happened to me a few times but always switches back shortly. As of this morning, it is back to 56-1 & 56-2.

Has there been any issues with the Comcast/Motorola box with DVR and utilizing the DVI port? Comcast was out Friday and we could not get a signal to my new JVC HD-ILA TV through the HDMI port. I do have the DVI to HDMI cable. I have already contacted JVC, thought i would see if there were any known issues on comcast's end.

Thanks,

Gregg

GreggM - There should not be a problem with your setup. I have a Comcast/Motorola HD box with DVR, and use the DVI output to HDMI input on my set. No problem at all.

kreisman,

Thanks. I am pretty sure it is the TV itself!

Gregg

Couple questions I have about OTA reception...

I have the digital optical cable from my DirecTV HD box plugged into the optical input of my Kenwood surround receiver. Normally when Dolby Digital shows up on the cable, the receiver detects it right away (as when I'm playing a DVD with that kind of sound on it). I though for sure that FOX would do DD 5.1 during the superbowl. My sound was fine but I had no indication of DD 5.1 being present.

Second, the D* receiver will send you either DTS or DD 5.1 when it detects it on the signal/ otherwise, it sends along PCM stereo. The TV manufacturer recommends a back up pair of analog cables. Does this say that for some strange reason, the digital optical cables won't PCM mono signals if they're present (and I have to fall back on shielded cable)?

Regarding reception recently, my WWJ CH62 Digital has acted strange the last 24 hours, as was FOX just before the superbowl (minor breaks, occasional loss of sound). It was fine throughout the game. BTW, my D* installed OTA antenna is one of those RV jobs, looks like a flying saucer. I do believe that they do have 30 db gain preamps built in. Otherwise, my OTA has been fine!


Thanks

Hoped it helped.

I watched the Super Bowl on Fox 2 OTA and had DD 5.1, not too bad of a job mixing the crowd sound into the mix.

Most STBs give you an optional setting for digital audio output. You can enable the DD output or tell it to only output PCM. Perhaps this setting is not allowing your DirecTV receiver to send the DD output?

I talked to Brighthouse today and they are currently testing the firmware fix to enable the dual tuners for their 6412 box! The "don't hold me to this" answer I got was that they're hopeful to have the firmware update pushed by the end of the month. Let's keep our collective fingers crossed and watch for the message light on your box...

My receiver never showed a DD 5.1 signal during the Super Bowl. I am going to have have to look into this. I have rewired a few times this past fall and may have gotten the OTA wired wrong or not at all.

I lost CBS around the same time and have not been able to pick it up at all either. Oddly enough, i am on a Samsung as well. Mine is a built in receiver to a Samsung TV though.

If you've got digital audio at all, it's probably not "wired wrong." It's most likely a setting in your receiver.

Today, I'm having the identical problem with WDIV-DT. I can tune it in on 45.1 and 45.2, but not 4.1 and 4.2. If it is a PSIP problem, it may be related to this issue, perhaps.

For those of you who aren't able to see WWJ on 62.1, perhaps you can still see it on 44.1?

I was able to make it to the Livonia cable commission meeting last week but haven't had a chance to post about it. This dual-tuner timeframe is essentially what I was told as well. That was my main reason for going was to get an answer on it.

Other things to add...
The phone service is expected the first of April
Digital Simulacast of analog channels planned for the later part of this year
New channels including possibly a HD channel to be added shortly but the BH rep couldn't reveal anything publicly just yet on what or when.
Free on Demand is expected later this year as they are still tweaking the rollout of VOD and POD
That's about it that I remember.

Hi,

Anyone else local to Detroit, MI having no signal from channel 4-1 today? I get nothing.....

I'm running an HR10-250 with OTA feeding from a Channelmaster 4228. I'm in Belleville,
and I normally NEVER have problems with channel 4. (Sorry, tuner maps it to 4-1, I don't
remember the UHF channel off-hand.) Channel 4 is fine, as I can get SD signal via DirecTV,
no problem. But the OTA HD signal is simply not there. Started some time this afternoon.

Any thoughts? Is this my probem? At first I thought maybe antenna damage, or something.....
but ever other OTA HD channel is fine, even ones that I occasionally have trouble with, like
FOX.

Thanks,

-Mark

Nothing last night, nothing today.

Gary

Thanks Gary. At least I know I'm not the only one.

See my post from last night - two posts above yours.

The WDIVDT signal still shows up on 45.1 (along with a new "Weather Plus" subchannel on 45.2), but fails to remap to 4. It's possibly related to the station trying to meet the PSIP requirements that just became mandatory last week. WTVS (56) just went through this a few days earlier, and they resolved it within a day or so.

Thanks for the Update on Livonia Brighthouse.

About the Digital Simulacast of analog channels, I am currently receiving 2.1, 4.1, 7.1, 62.1 and 56.1 over my brighthouse cable line when I am not using my cableCARD. Is this is Digital Simulcast you are mentioning?
My dad has the same service but can only receive 7.1, 62.1 and 56.1 after A recient scan. Previously he was receiving 2.1 and 4.1.


Thanks,
Rob

Thanks tbb1226. Guess I should have read back a few posts rather than just
posting.

Ok, well, when I get home, I'll try tuning on 45.1. When I left the house late this morning,
it was still not working.

Thanks again,

-Mark

Another WJBK-DT update: Expect to see a sub channel added soon.

Huh. No HD for Gilmore Girls. (OTA thru Voom box) Anyone else?
Decided if I'm gonna watch SD, it may as well be the Michigan/Illinois game (ironically on ESPN-HD ).

No. My understanding is the digital simulcast will be all the current analog channels also having a digital signal available as well. You will have to have a digital box to get the digital signal. I would think a cableCARD would work as well. The channel numbers will remain the same except that when you tune in to for example food network it will be a digital signal tuned in instead of the current analog one. Should help the PQ quite a bit compared to how it is now.

I see, that will be a good improvement. Although after running a scan for my digital channels I lost my 2.1 and 4.1 HDTV sub channels. I there any work on if they are discontinuing these channels?

Looks like WDIV got their (PSIP?) problem worked out.

It seems to have come back somewhere between 9:00am and 12:00pm yesterday.

-Mark

I live in Novi and I have Brighthouse service. Right now I have HBO/SHO and HDTV Pack. I just hate the fact that I HAVE to pay for Digital Variety Package just to have HDTV channels! I don't watch any digital cable channel at all!

So, I'm thinking about ditching my cable box and get a QAM card, most likely the soon to be released new MyHD. From what I've read, I could get access to all channels that are not encrypted.

Since some people here are being accused of stealing, is there any chance they just decide to encrypt these channels, thus making a QAM tuner useless? I don't want to spend extra on a card just to find out I can only get OTA!

Also, I would think that if a new HD channel gets added and it's "free" (included on the Digital Variety package) then it would not be encrypted. Is it a fair assumption?

I already have a first gen MyHD and I'm thinking if it's worth to upgrade to the new one just for the QAM tuner.



And another question, can you record HBO/SHO with the DVR set top box?

Thanks

I am a complete antenna noob and have probably violated every rule of selecting the right antenna and setting up it correctly. I am not even sure I picked the right thread for my questions .

Here it goes:

From Antennaweb.org I got (sorry for the poor formatting):

Antenna Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live Date Compass Orientation Miles From Frequency Assignment
yellow - uhf WWJ-DT 62.1 CBS DETROIT MI 102° 11.8 44
yellow - uhf WTVS-DT 43.1 PBS DETROIT MI 102° 11.8 43
yellow - uhf WKBD-DT 50.1 UPN DETROIT MI 80° 4.8 14
yellow - uhf WXYZ-DT 7.1 ABC DETROIT MI 93° 7.8 41
yellow - uhf WDWB-DT 21.1 WB DETROIT MI 102° 11.8 21
yellow - uhf WJBK-DT 2.1 FOX DETROIT MI 98° 9.7 58
yellow - uhf WDIV-DT 4.1 NBC DETROIT MI 89° 10.2 45
yellow - uhf WADL-DT 39.1 IND MT CLEMENS MI 83° 27.0 39
violet - uhf WTOL-DT 11.1 CBS TOLEDO OH 185° 54.7 17
violet - uhf WNWO-DT 24.1 NBC TOLEDO OH 184° 55.1 49


I want to feed my 2 HDTV tuners (HTPC with MyHD MDP-120 each) a strong and reliable HD signal. (I could care less about SD!)
So far I have experimented rather unsuccessfully with my current antenna set-up. Sometimes I get an excellent signal (90%); sometimes I cannot receive the same channel at all. Signal drop outs are rather normal. I am also not getting all channels as listed above. It is more hit and miss.

I am not sure what model/type of antenna I have. I believe I bought it at Home Depot. Here is a picture of a similar model). This antenna sits in the attic pointing towards the Southfield tower (about 90° / East). To improve the signal I have added a Radioshack antenna amplifier at about 3 ft distance to the antenna (did not help much). The amp has an integrated splitter which feeds the signal into my HDTV cards (one goes straight - about 15ft away, the second one looped through a normal VCR into the HDTV card - about 40 ft away).

So I am looking for guidance to what I should do in order to make it work:
=> Do I have the right antenna in the first place?
=> Is an amp in my case a good idea?
=> I would like to keep the antenna mounted out of sight, meaning not in the room, nor outside, but in the attic. I do not mind spending some money to make it work.
=> I heard good things about the Silver Sensor (should I just get one for each tuner card and put them in the attic?)
=> What about the Squareshooter SS-2000 with an integrated amp. Should I get one of these, put it in the attic and use a splitter?

TIA!
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Axel
(very confused at this stage)

At about 10 miles out I really don't think you need a preamp. In fact you might be suffering from overload, plus lots of cheap preamps are very noisy and that can easily kill Digital reception. If you don't care about the Toledo stations just about any UHF antenna should do the job, heck even a coat hanger should work.

I'd try the Silver Sensor, if that doesn't work I'd try a 4 bay bow-tie from Channel Master or radio Shack.

BTW you say the antenna is pointing to the Southfield towers, just in case you don't know (many people don't...) the wide part of the antenna is the back side, the small narrow end is what should be pointing at the towers.

Matt, Thanks for your reply.

Toledo would be nice, but not required, as I should be able to get CBS and NBC also from Southfield.

Can/should I connect both tuners to one antenna, or should I better get one antenna for each tuner?

I did a brief search on a 4 bay bow-tie from Channel Master. I believe you are referring to a 3021/4221, correct?
My search for a Radio Shack model came up empty.

However, I also came across a DB4 from Antennasdirect. How would this one compare to the Channel Master?


(At least I got the antenna pointing part right.. )
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Axel